Not By Works
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Bullying?
If it was from someone you loved or felt that loved you, it would be called "correction" or "chastenment". When it's from someone you don't respect, someone you view as your enemy or intimidates you...folks call it "bullying, slander, lies" etc.
Rebuking and chastening people is pointless unless the Holy spirit moves you and you establish a loving relationship with the other person.
Otherwise it just causes bickering.
I believe people should rebuke their friends INSTEAD OF THOSE THEY VIEW AS ENEMIES when they act un Christ like and then maybe there will be a change in people's hearts and manner of speech.
If it was from someone you loved or felt that loved you, it would be called "correction" or "chastenment". When it's from someone you don't respect, someone you view as your enemy or intimidates you...folks call it "bullying, slander, lies" etc.
Rebuking and chastening people is pointless unless the Holy spirit moves you and you establish a loving relationship with the other person.
Otherwise it just causes bickering.
I believe people should rebuke their friends INSTEAD OF THOSE THEY VIEW AS ENEMIES when they act un Christ like and then maybe there will be a change in people's hearts and manner of speech.
I believe the scripture that say we walk in the spirit and abide in his kindom.. and so there for we are in his presence and his Kingdom..
but on a sad note i also believe that satan also walked in his presence befor he stopped growing too...
this is not my fault brothers and sisters this is how life is.....
but on a sad note i also believe that satan also walked in his presence befor he stopped growing too...
this is not my fault brothers and sisters this is how life is.....
Stephen, you attack. You don't discuss. You berate and chide. You demand some sort of perfection of knowledge from them that you think you possess. You scream accusations of heretic, unsaved, wolf, false teacher. You post fables of evil little girls, calling me an evil little girl by the association. I have not done or said anything evil.
I was not bullying you. I was trying to get you to stop attacking your brothers and sisters in here because you don't agree with them on something.
Doesn't it tire you to be always at war with your brothers and sisters in here? Can't you love and bear with us? Can you forgive us if we upset you?
I am not trying to bully and intimidate you. I am trying to get you to settle down and stop screaming accusations. Maybe I went about it wrong. Maybe I spoke more out of impatience and exhaustion. Do you want to be exhausting to us? Don't you want to have pleasant discourse and share and learn?
I was not bullying you. I was trying to get you to stop attacking your brothers and sisters in here because you don't agree with them on something.
Doesn't it tire you to be always at war with your brothers and sisters in here? Can't you love and bear with us? Can you forgive us if we upset you?
I am not trying to bully and intimidate you. I am trying to get you to settle down and stop screaming accusations. Maybe I went about it wrong. Maybe I spoke more out of impatience and exhaustion. Do you want to be exhausting to us? Don't you want to have pleasant discourse and share and learn?
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Wrong thread....many folks who know that salvation is NOT BY WORKS but Faith...aren't Calvinist,
But yeah...let's stir the pot...
Welcome to CC, hope you find Christ centered friends...I wouldn't suggest BDF for the faint of heart...prayers and miscellaneous are normally friendlier.
But yeah...let's stir the pot...
Welcome to CC, hope you find Christ centered friends...I wouldn't suggest BDF for the faint of heart...prayers and miscellaneous are normally friendlier.
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I believe the renewing of the mind is where we are transformed to manifest outwardly "what already is true within us in Christ."
I believe that all true Christians are born from above with the nature of God in them as new creations in Christ - sealed by the Holy Spirit.
I maintain that the teaching about Christ brings about the grace and faith necessary to live the true Christian life and it all comes from being a manifestation of what already is in us because of our union with Christ as one spirit in the inner man in Christ.
I believe Peter walking on the water is a mini-version of what the true Christian life looks like - keeping our eyes on Jesus only and in obedience to Jesus' word "Come"
Peter was able to walk on water and he himself was able to do things that normally couldn't be done in the natural.
One last thing was when I looked at how Jesus responded to others - He was moved with compassion - this was a passive occurrence too that was manifesting the life that was in Him to help others.
It was not a conscious decision to say " Ok, now I will heal someone".....it was a passive response from the life of the Father which is love that was in Him.
I hope I was able to articulate what I am seeing.....
I believe that all true Christians are born from above with the nature of God in them as new creations in Christ - sealed by the Holy Spirit.
I maintain that the teaching about Christ brings about the grace and faith necessary to live the true Christian life and it all comes from being a manifestation of what already is in us because of our union with Christ as one spirit in the inner man in Christ.
I believe Peter walking on the water is a mini-version of what the true Christian life looks like - keeping our eyes on Jesus only and in obedience to Jesus' word "Come"
Peter was able to walk on water and he himself was able to do things that normally couldn't be done in the natural.
One last thing was when I looked at how Jesus responded to others - He was moved with compassion - this was a passive occurrence too that was manifesting the life that was in Him to help others.
It was not a conscious decision to say " Ok, now I will heal someone".....it was a passive response from the life of the Father which is love that was in Him.
I hope I was able to articulate what I am seeing.....
Excuse me Grace777, for jumping in to your conversation but I like how you present these insights into scripture. It has been my long time goal to conform to the likeness of God's Son, a worthy pursuit. Also I have come to see this Christian experience on earth as preparation for Heaven and what God would have us to do. I think your above statements are true and biblically correct.
People aren't converted because they have razor sharp theology, or because they believe in preservation of the saints, or osas (which happens to be razor sharp theology ) or because they believe they can lose their salvation (unless that is coupled with saving themselves, assisting Christ &c as in the case of a few on here and such is a false gospel).
True conversion is rather 100% of God and by God, all of it, from the granting of faith and repentance, to the washing of sins and conversion of the soul and as witnessed in the sanctifying work of God in the believer.
) or because they believe they can lose their salvation (unless that is coupled with saving themselves, assisting Christ &c as in the case of a few on here and such is a false gospel). True conversion is rather 100% of God and by God, all of it, from the granting of faith and repentance, to the washing of sins and conversion of the soul and as witnessed in the sanctifying work of God in the believer.
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Ezekiel 3
Whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me. 18If I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked person shall die ford his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19But if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked way, he shall die for his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul. 20Again, if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits injustice, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die. Because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require at your hand. 21But if you warn the righteous person not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning, and you will have delivered your soul.”
Whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me. 18If I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, in order to save his life, that wicked person shall die ford his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. 19But if you warn the wicked, and he does not turn from his wickedness, or from his wicked way, he shall die for his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul. 20Again, if a righteous person turns from his righteousness and commits injustice, and I lay a stumbling block before him, he shall die. Because you have not warned him, he shall die for his sin, and his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered, but his blood I will require at your hand. 21But if you warn the righteous person not to sin, and he does not sin, he shall surely live, because he took warning, and you will have delivered your soul.”
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When you say a worthy pursuit it made me think of Paul when he said
so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God;
Col 1:10
Look at who Jesus is, how he had compassion,...I always find it so interesting that Paul is often correcting towards right belief about God to produce fruit
When you say a worthy pursuit it made me think of Paul when he said
so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God;
Col 1:10
Look at who Jesus is, how he had compassion,...I always find it so interesting that Paul is often correcting towards right belief about God to produce fruit
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