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I must be holy because He is holy. I do not have to be a person who does not murder? He isn't capable of making me to not be a murderer if I look to Him? He has no power to free me from being a serial murderer?
He begins to make us lawabiding when we trust Him to do it. Hasn't this been what the entire thread has been about? That there is agreement that God wants us to not sin but there has been disagreement on how one begins to walk that way?
He begins to make us lawabiding when we trust Him to do it. Hasn't this been what the entire thread has been about? That there is agreement that God wants us to not sin but there has been disagreement on how one begins to walk that way?
U
I agree, not communicating honest feelings will only lead to resentment.
When we let others mistreat us they do not learn from their bad behaviour, so it is essential to make things clear so hopefully they will change, otherwise we are just acting as enablers of their bad behaviour.
Stunnedbygrace, Look at this way we are providing an opportunity for the other to change their ways
When we let others mistreat us they do not learn from their bad behaviour, so it is essential to make things clear so hopefully they will change, otherwise we are just acting as enablers of their bad behaviour.
Stunnedbygrace, Look at this way we are providing an opportunity for the other to change their ways
Sorry, phone call. You are Holy because He has made you Holy. Same as worthy...we have no goodnessmof our own. Identify
with the Lord stunned. You are dead. You died with Him, now are risen with Him. The law has no hold on us now.
No, the thread has been just what you are hurting about. Condemned because of self trying to,please a Holy God, when Jesus has taken the burden on Himself for us. He pleases Father, now rest in His work.
ipad stuff ...not going to fix.
U
But you can change how you deal with her behaviour, love does not mean letting sin (hers) have its way towards you, that maybe the only way she comes to Jesus is by seeing her sin for what it is, right now you are covering for her sin
These are just my thoughts from a distance, of course please just take them as that, I have been there I know to an extent what you are saying
These are just my thoughts from a distance, of course please just take them as that, I have been there I know to an extent what you are saying
Okay, I'll get really, really real. 
My mother comes out in the morning and proceeds to tell me how I have not cooked the bacon right, how I forgot to take the trash down the night before as she asked, then she sits down to her plate and tells me I musn't forget to do the dishes because my aunt is coming over. She asks me will I have time please to vacuum real quick before she arrives. I get up to rinse my plate and she asks me if I will go downstairs and let her dog out. I say yes and head down the stairs. She reminds me to get the trash. When I come back upstairs, she asks me if I will take down the recycling. Meanwhile, she has finished eating, has not rinsed her plate or cared that I will have to now scrub the dried yolk off, and is on the phone laughing with someone. She holds her hand over the receiver as I walk by and asks if I will go to the store for some groceries so she can have lunch for she and my aunt. I finally explode, but the anger has been building and building and I have been murdering her because she is sooo selfish.
So, I am angry over the fact that someone is being so unjustly treated, and that person is ME! Will you say I am angry with cause?
Now, our Lord was much more unjustly treated than me, and He didn't have anger in His heart but instead said, forgive them. He forgave me of all my selfishnesses. So can it be correct that I murder my mother in anger for her selfishnesses and then say I have cause?
My mother comes out in the morning and proceeds to tell me how I have not cooked the bacon right, how I forgot to take the trash down the night before as she asked, then she sits down to her plate and tells me I musn't forget to do the dishes because my aunt is coming over. She asks me will I have time please to vacuum real quick before she arrives. I get up to rinse my plate and she asks me if I will go downstairs and let her dog out. I say yes and head down the stairs. She reminds me to get the trash. When I come back upstairs, she asks me if I will take down the recycling. Meanwhile, she has finished eating, has not rinsed her plate or cared that I will have to now scrub the dried yolk off, and is on the phone laughing with someone. She holds her hand over the receiver as I walk by and asks if I will go to the store for some groceries so she can have lunch for she and my aunt. I finally explode, but the anger has been building and building and I have been murdering her because she is sooo selfish.
So, I am angry over the fact that someone is being so unjustly treated, and that person is ME! Will you say I am angry with cause?
Now, our Lord was much more unjustly treated than me, and He didn't have anger in His heart but instead said, forgive them. He forgave me of all my selfishnesses. So can it be correct that I murder my mother in anger for her selfishnesses and then say I have cause?
Actually to me this can be reversed and love can manifest.
Being kind and firm and telling your mother that you are with her to be walked over and her lackey.
This can be done in love and not anger.
2 Peter 1:5-8 (NKJV)
Fruitful Growth in the Faith
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
We all have the above available to us through and with the Holy Spirit.
Rather than beating yourself up and walking in the identity of a murderer change that focus.
You are a child of God with an anger issue.
You are also a child of God and because of that you have the Holy Spirit in you working with you to change anger into love.
And if you get it wrong your still his child. You fess up admit you got it wrong and keep asking for help.
The issue is not the initial thoughts but what you do with them.
Allow them to build you will explode, but if you nip them in the bud straight away, reject them a say "Father replace these thoughts with thoughts of love and self control he will truly help you.
just my simple thoughts.
Bill