Not By Works
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Lies and deceit in this post above...It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe and He that believes is having EVERLASTING LIFE....
SALVATION AND ETERNAL LIFE ARE BASED UPON FAITH...not works....
Faith plus works for salvation = Satanic, false lying gospel of a different kind with no power to save, all who believe it are foolish and bewitched according to Galatians 1 and 3
SALVATION AND ETERNAL LIFE ARE BASED UPON FAITH...not works....
Faith plus works for salvation = Satanic, false lying gospel of a different kind with no power to save, all who believe it are foolish and bewitched according to Galatians 1 and 3
lies and deceit?
The Messiah is telling us those things and your accusation are not going to nullify it..you may get some likes and support by your members that may sooth your ego but it will not wash with GOD.
According to Galatians 1 and 3.... you are unlearned and know not what you say. But may you be forgiven..
You are mixing the Teachings in favour of the New Testament against the Old Testament up to equal something that is not true.
The Master who came to save me gives me work to do.. I believe Him and set my heart to obey.
horse and carts or cart and horse... you are not more powerful than Heavenly Father and the Messiah.. as if any of your accusations of working for salvation can change One hair on your own head.... let alone lead me away from my Good Shepherd.
We can not both be working by the Holy Spirit... let GOD judge between us.
horse and carts or cart and horse... you are not more powerful than Heavenly Father and the Messiah.. as if any of your accusations of working for salvation can change One hair on your own head.... let alone lead me away from my Good Shepherd.
We can not both be working by the Holy Spirit... let GOD judge between us.
SURE.....I live in a state that allows open and concealed carry with no permit. I live in a national forest about 45 to 50 KM to nearest town and every family (about 70 families) in my area all pack heat....the cops will not come unless shots are fired or a body is found...... 
Then you testify of yourself.
The Gospel Paul preached?
The Messiah's Testimony is the Gospel and work is required.. Word mixed with Faith... Faith without works mmm.. and I don't mean the works prior to the veil being torn...
We have a New Covenant and the Just will live by Faith.
Paul is not at fault.. your lack of belieth in the Testimony of the Messiah is the stumble point.
The Messiah's Testimony is the Gospel and work is required.. Word mixed with Faith... Faith without works mmm.. and I don't mean the works prior to the veil being torn...
We have a New Covenant and the Just will live by Faith.
Paul is not at fault.. your lack of belieth in the Testimony of the Messiah is the stumble point.
interesting you quote James because he agrees with your position, but ignore Paul who doesn't. You say you are lead by the Spirit, but you ignore the man who was chosen by Jesus to bring the gospel to Gentiles. Of which you are. And instead of discussing Scriptures you puff yourself up as the only one with "understanding".
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The saints are stated as to Keeping the Commandments of GOD and Having the Testimony of the Messiah.
Now... no saint rejects the foolishness of the cross... because they know it came to pass for them to be forgiven and reconciled with GOD by Grace through Faith.
no saint is boasting of their works that are saving them... no they are Obeying the Messiah who overcome to be able to give them Everlasting life based on if we are Faithful servants. Did we hear and do? He will decide in good time.
a saint is a child of GOD.. loving their Father. For their Father said those that Love Him Keep His Commandments and The Messiah affirmed this telling us the Great Commandment and the second like it.
we know we love GOD if we Keep His Commandments we need no man to tell us.
We share so that others may hear the Good News and Repent and believe.
The nonsense coming at we who have been born again of the Holy Spirit to love and serve is confusing to those searching.. and we must share and speak Truth patiently.
Now... no saint rejects the foolishness of the cross... because they know it came to pass for them to be forgiven and reconciled with GOD by Grace through Faith.
no saint is boasting of their works that are saving them... no they are Obeying the Messiah who overcome to be able to give them Everlasting life based on if we are Faithful servants. Did we hear and do? He will decide in good time.
a saint is a child of GOD.. loving their Father. For their Father said those that Love Him Keep His Commandments and The Messiah affirmed this telling us the Great Commandment and the second like it.
we know we love GOD if we Keep His Commandments we need no man to tell us.
We share so that others may hear the Good News and Repent and believe.
The nonsense coming at we who have been born again of the Holy Spirit to love and serve is confusing to those searching.. and we must share and speak Truth patiently.
Cee
What you just said is soooo old and soooooo stale!
Does loveme1 sound like an unsaved person to you? Trying to gain salvation by works?
She sounds like a saved person desiring to follow her LORD.
Why is she being given slack for this???
What's wrong with doing what Jesus commanded?
It seems to me that those who preach to NOT be a good and faithful SERVANT are the ones who are twisting the NT to make it mean what they would like it to mean instead of repeating what JESUS taught.
I've printed about 15 NT verses about how we're to WORK and it's totally ignored.
Why?
Maybe because some here don't want to do anything for God but "believe".
They don't even do that because Believe is an action word.
We do not have an actionless Dead Faith, but a faith that is alive with both LOVE and ACTIONS.
I've been following this thread for some time now and fail to see the position of those who attack me personally and call those such as myself names...reminds me of kindergarten.
It is a mystery indeed how a CHRISTIAN could demean another Christian who is trying to be a good disciple
Instead of Encouraging them.
What you just said is soooo old and soooooo stale!
Does loveme1 sound like an unsaved person to you? Trying to gain salvation by works?
She sounds like a saved person desiring to follow her LORD.
Why is she being given slack for this???
What's wrong with doing what Jesus commanded?
It seems to me that those who preach to NOT be a good and faithful SERVANT are the ones who are twisting the NT to make it mean what they would like it to mean instead of repeating what JESUS taught.
I've printed about 15 NT verses about how we're to WORK and it's totally ignored.
Why?
Maybe because some here don't want to do anything for God but "believe".
They don't even do that because Believe is an action word.
We do not have an actionless Dead Faith, but a faith that is alive with both LOVE and ACTIONS.
I've been following this thread for some time now and fail to see the position of those who attack me personally and call those such as myself names...reminds me of kindergarten.
It is a mystery indeed how a CHRISTIAN could demean another Christian who is trying to be a good disciple
Instead of Encouraging them.
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