The Meaning Of The Parable Of Tares
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I think they have made up their minds on the subject and are not caring to discuss this any more.
Even I need the Lord's help to let them go.
It is critical if one seeks His actual message and the truth in His words, but some may love the stranger's voice than heed His voice.
But the Lord will get the tares that have fallen away from the faith & have given heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils for He will finish His work even in those left behind that was taken out of His kingdom and left in the world that the children of the good seed was harvested from above to His Father's kingdom.
Even I am at risk of being a castaway but I am trusting Him as my Friend to keep my body under subjection to not allow desires to entice me away and commit sin.
1 Corinthians 9:[SUP]24 [/SUP]Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.[SUP] 25 [/SUP]And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.[SUP] 26 [/SUP]I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:[SUP]27 [/SUP]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
James 1:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.[SUP] 13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not err, my beloved brethren.
I so do hope in Him to keep me from my sins, t keep this former dog from returning to its vomit by not loving the world nor anything in the world as the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life is in the world & the love of the Father is not in them.
So here's hoping I do not sow to the flesh of any wood, stubble, and hay in my thoughts that would defile my body which is the temple of the Holy Spirit otherwise, I would become a castaway at the pre trib rapture event to burn that stuff off of that foundation to be received later on as a vessel unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation.
I do so hope in Him to keep me departed from my sins to be received by Him as a vessel unto honor in His House.
Yes Enow, I can relate to this. But flesh is also the human mind wanting to do things our own way.
The Wheat and Tares follows directly from the Parable of the Sower, where the seed is 'the word of the kingdom'.
So it does not seem unreasonable to see the wheat as accurate translations of the Word, and tares as malicious perverted translations, which nonetheless have every appearance, being Bibles, of being the Word.
The Wheat and Tares follows directly from the Parable of the Sower, where the seed is 'the word of the kingdom'.
So it does not seem unreasonable to see the wheat as accurate translations of the Word, and tares as malicious perverted translations, which nonetheless have every appearance, being Bibles, of being the Word.
Well, all things being equal... The seed is Christ just as the word of God is Christ.
In the parable of the sower, how one did not receive Him and how the rest received Him refers to unbelievers and saved believers.
In the parable of the wheat & the tares, this refers to those whom had received Him as they are in His kingdom and how they had grown whether in the world or as tares when moreso in the world.
Since the field is the world and the harvest is coming to take the wheat out of the world, hence pre trib rapture; and leaving the tares in the world, hence removing out of the harvest collected of all things that offend and do iniquity which are the tares, ....
Kind of hard for me to see it as applied to Bible versions when it is referring to the saved believers in their walk with Him.
Your application where only the KJV is the good seed and the tares are the modern Bibles as sown by the devil that causes others to go astray in supporting false teachings as well as false tongues in the church and thus hence His kingdom...doesn't really adhere to all the elements in the parable of the wheat & the tares. But I do see your application even though I am sure that is not the message Jesus was giving since He is not coming back to harvest the true Bible version out of the world.
The verses I find Jesus is talking about us needing to discern which Bible version loves Him and which does not can be found here.
John 14:[SUP]23 [/SUP]Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.[SUP]24 [/SUP]He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John 15:[SUP]20 [/SUP]Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
When they change His words by deferring from the testimony of the Son, then I am grieved.
John 5:[SUP]39 [/SUP]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.[SUP]40 [/SUP]And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Psalm 119:[SUP]157 [/SUP]Many are my persecutors and mine enemies; yet do I not decline from thy testimonies. [SUP]158 [/SUP]I beheld the transgressors, and was grieved; because they kept not thy word.
Anyway, thanks for sharing, brother.
Unless you can tie in all the elements of the wheat & the tares parable to how you were applying it towards Bible version, I am just not seeing it as applied fully to that parable.
According to Jesus in Matt 13:
38 – the field is the world
38 – the good seed are the children of the kingdom
38 – the tares are the children of the wicked one
39 – the enemy is the devil
39 – the harvest is the end of the world [Gr. aiōn = age]
39 – the reapers are the angels
40 – the tares are gathered and burned in fire
The tares are gathered from the "field" (the world) by the "reapers" (angels) and burned.
The fact that Jesus allows the tares to grow among the wheat in His kingdom does not mean that the tares were ever His.
Jesus very explicitly states the tares are the children of the wicked one (Matt 13:38).
Who is the wicked one?
Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;Enow said:
Jesus does not say that the tares are "those whom had received Him".
Jesus makes it clear that the tares are the children of the wicked one.
Who is the wicked one?
In your interpretation, you make Jesus the wicked one!!! That is absolutely not true!!!
The wheat are the saved..the tares the lost...they both grow side by side...the harvest is the end of the age...the reapers the angels....and a very interesting point.....GOD begins to move AGAINST THE TARES before he Gathers the wheat <---post trib ingathering.......
where would you place the church during the time of the two witnesses' testimony?
Is the church raptured prior to the two witnesses testimony?
or after?
The parable needs to be put in it's correct context, the 1st century AD.
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one
Jesus identifies who are "tare" children of the kingdom are previously:
Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The kingdom at that time was mixed with the believing children of God and the children of the wicked one.
Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one
Jesus identifies who are "tare" children of the kingdom are previously:
Mat 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The kingdom at that time was mixed with the believing children of God and the children of the wicked one.
That's why I'm asking about revelation 11 with regards to the body of Christ during the time of the two witnesses testimony
Revelation 11
and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
I personally believe the two witnesses, rule of the beast, great tribulation all take place during the same time frame identified as 42 months or 3.5 years or 1260 days....I believe the Lord's churches (plural) will be here until the 7th trump of Revelation at which time the great trib ends and the wrath of God is poured out. During this time frame the Lord's churches will be ostracized and persecuted to tje extent that the majority of it's witness will be supressed as the beast makes war against, overcomes and wears out the saints of the most high <--mentioned in Daniel and Revelation.....the word keep as applied unto the FAITHFUL church at Philadelphia indicates to be protected and or guarded from loss or harm not taken out as some like to say.......
And since wrath is coming...I believe Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnessess...both were under the law and never perished under the law.......
This is the short end of the stick....have a 212 page book in my blog I wrote on the 2nd coming...read it and weigh it yourself...
To HIS BODY of believers, HE said they are not of this world even as I am not of this world (John 17)
I'm not sure that the parable is addressing the church as both wheat and tares
those who have believed prior to the point of tribulation are said to have been transferred out of the kingdom of darkness and brought into the kingdom of Light and are even seated in the heavenly realms in CHRIAT JEDUS
Again , HE says of HIS believers, I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom you (referring to the father) have given me out of the world
I'm not sure that the parable is addressing the church as both wheat and tares
those who have believed prior to the point of tribulation are said to have been transferred out of the kingdom of darkness and brought into the kingdom of Light and are even seated in the heavenly realms in CHRIAT JEDUS
Again , HE says of HIS believers, I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom you (referring to the father) have given me out of the world
I'm not sure where you are going with this, however, look here:
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
42 months was the length of the siege of Jerusalem in the war of 66-70 AD, so this places the time of the two witnesses in that time frame.
This is what I'm referring to
not sure I'm in agreement that the wheat and the tares are THE CHURCH