The obelisk in the vadican and also DC

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unobtrusive

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The Hebrew for "obelisk" is (מַצֵּבָה). It is translated as "pillar" or "images" in most translations of the Bible. An obelisk is a sacred stone or pillar. The word “obelisk” does not occur in the King James or in many other translations, but it does occur in the Jewish Tanakh and the New American Standard Bible (NASB).

"And I shall set fire to the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he will burn them and take them captive. So he will wrap himself with the land of Egypt as a shepherd wraps himself with his garment, and he will depart from there safely.He will also shatter the "obelisks" of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt; and the temples of the gods of Egypt he will burn with fire.”
(Jeremiah 43:12-13 NASB)

"But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, (obelisks) and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire." (Deuteronomy 7:5 KJV)

"And he wrought evil in the sight of the Lord; but not like his father, and like his mother: for he put away the image (obelisk) of Baal that his father had made." (2 Kings 3:2KJV)

"Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images (obelisks) in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities." (2 Chronicles 31:1)

Why would a nation claiming "in God we trust" and one of the earliest known religious organizations erect in their midst, what is clearly a pagan symbol according to scripture?

 
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unobtrusive

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"shatter the "obelisks" of Heliopolis," (Jeremiah 43:13 NASB),

Egyptian Iunu or Onu (“Pillar City”), biblical On, one of the most ancient Egyptian cities and the seat of worship of the sun god, Re. It was the capital of the 15th nome of Lower Egypt, but Heliopolis was important as a religion rather than a political centre.
 

posthuman

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if any standing stone or pillar is "
clearly a pagan symbol" why do we have in scripture the Ebenezer stone (1 Samuel 7:12) and the two pillars Jachin & Boaz of the temple Solomon constructed (2 Chronicles 3:15-17)?
 
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The Hebrew for "obelisk" is (מַצֵּבָה). It is translated as "pillar" or "images" in most translations of the Bible. An obelisk is a sacred stone or pillar. The word “obelisk” does not occur in the King James or in many other translations, but it does occur in the Jewish Tanakh and the New American Standard Bible (NASB).

"And I shall set fire to the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he will burn them and take them captive. So he will wrap himself with the land of Egypt as a shepherd wraps himself with his garment, and he will depart from there safely.He will also shatter the "obelisks" of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt; and the temples of the gods of Egypt he will burn with fire.”
(Jeremiah 43:12-13 NASB)

"But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, (obelisks) and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire." (Deuteronomy 7:5 KJV)

"And he wrought evil in the sight of the Lord; but not like his father, and like his mother: for he put away the image (obelisk) of Baal that his father had made." (2 Kings 3:2KJV)

"Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images (obelisks) in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities." (2 Chronicles 31:1)

Why would a nation claiming "in God we trust" and one of the earliest known religious organizations erect in their midst, what is clearly a pagan symbol according to scripture?

An even better question is why do most churches have Baal's shaft errected on their church buildings. The answer is that they are sending a very lound and clear message to those that have ears. :)
 

Jackson123

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I heard Catholic is pagan religion, and Vatican have great influent to almost all the world include america throug illuminati.

There is similar pilar front of Indonesia presidential palace
 

unobtrusive

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if any standing stone or pillar is "
clearly a pagan symbol" why do we have in scripture the Ebenezer stone (1 Samuel 7:12) and the two pillars Jachin & Boaz of the temple Solomon constructed (2 Chronicles 3:15-17)?
I would suppose that it's the design that exemplifies its purpose, kinda like the difference between a 5 pointed star and a 6 pointed star. They're both stars, yet they're opposites in what they represent. Just sayin'
 

Jackson123

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One day I read one of the San Diego pastor testimony, he Said, in the late '60, Dr Alberto Rivera, an ex Jesuit Convert to Christian, testified in his congregation, when he study at Vatican, Cardinal Bee, told himpilar in Washington is pagan God symbol. Vatican want secretly take over us congress, 2 people run for congress, neck to neck, jesuit Will donat both candidate, They provide motel, and put make women and secretly tameng a picture. When this candidate win, jesuit Will propose a legislation for his benefide, or vote to make a war, If the congress man refuse to do, jesuit Will threatened to Spread his picture with nake women.

Alberto Said, when vatican acummulate congress enough jesuit Will propose for presidential inagurasi oN face obelisks
this pastor Said, It start happen in 1984 about 17 years after Alberto Rivera told him.
 

Dino246

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar (Sigmund Freud).

That said, the Washington Monument is a pagan edifice. That's for you Americans to deal with. :)
 

Zmouth

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One day I read one of the San Diego pastor testimony, he Said, in the late '60, Dr Alberto Rivera, an ex Jesuit Convert to Christian, testified in his congregation, when he study at Vatican, Cardinal Bee, told himpilar in Washington is pagan God symbol. Vatican want secretly take over us congress, 2 people run for congress, neck to neck, jesuit Will donat both candidate, They provide motel, and put make women and secretly tameng a picture. When this candidate win, jesuit Will propose a legislation for his benefide, or vote to make a war, If the congress man refuse to do, jesuit Will threatened to Spread his picture with nake women.

Alberto Said, when vatican acummulate congress enough jesuit Will propose for presidential inagurasi oN face obelisks
this pastor Said, It start happen in 1984 about 17 years after Alberto Rivera told him.
I thought Rome got it's white stone with the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
 
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The Hebrew for "obelisk" is (מַצֵּבָה). It is translated as "pillar" or "images" in most translations of the Bible. An obelisk is a sacred stone or pillar. The word “obelisk” does not occur in the King James or in many other translations, but it does occur in the Jewish Tanakh and the New American Standard Bible (NASB).

"And I shall set fire to the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he will burn them and take them captive. So he will wrap himself with the land of Egypt as a shepherd wraps himself with his garment, and he will depart from there safely.He will also shatter the "obelisks" of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt; and the temples of the gods of Egypt he will burn with fire.”
(Jeremiah 43:12-13 NASB)

"But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, (obelisks) and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire." (Deuteronomy 7:5 KJV)

"And he wrought evil in the sight of the Lord; but not like his father, and like his mother: for he put away the image (obelisk) of Baal that his father had made." (2 Kings 3:2KJV)

"Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images (obelisks) in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities." (2 Chronicles 31:1)

Why would a nation claiming "in God we trust" and one of the earliest known religious organizations erect in their midst, what is clearly a pagan symbol according to scripture?

LOL You saw that did you? Did you also know that Washington DC is laid out as a pentagram?
http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/f/f5/D._C._pentagram.png
 

Adstar

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The Hebrew for "obelisk" is (מַצֵּבָה). It is translated as "pillar" or "images" in most translations of the Bible. An obelisk is a sacred stone or pillar. The word “obelisk” does not occur in the King James or in many other translations, but it does occur in the Jewish Tanakh and the New American Standard Bible (NASB).

"And I shall set fire to the temples of the gods of Egypt, and he will burn them and take them captive. So he will wrap himself with the land of Egypt as a shepherd wraps himself with his garment, and he will depart from there safely.He will also shatter the "obelisks" of Heliopolis, which is in the land of Egypt; and the temples of the gods of Egypt he will burn with fire.”
(Jeremiah 43:12-13 NASB)

"But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, (obelisks) and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire." (Deuteronomy 7:5 KJV)

"And he wrought evil in the sight of the Lord; but not like his father, and like his mother: for he put away the image (obelisk) of Baal that his father had made." (2 Kings 3:2KJV)

"Now when all this was finished, all Israel that were present went out to the cities of Judah, and brake the images (obelisks) in pieces, and cut down the groves, and threw down the high places and the altars out of all Judah and Benjamin, in Ephraim also and Manasseh, until they had utterly destroyed them all. Then all the children of Israel returned, every man to his possession, into their own cities." (2 Chronicles 31:1)

Why would a nation claiming "in God we trust" and one of the earliest known religious organizations erect in their midst, what is clearly a pagan symbol according to scripture?

Who do you think the elites really serve?
 

loveme1

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Those obelisks appear around the world.... well spotted.
 
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Very interesting concept.....a study of Horus and Osiris.....the obelisk being representative of his Phallus and the Womb of Osiris found in the Capitol Dome and betwix the two the reflecting pool which points the obelisk toward the dome......funny thing.....in the U.S. form of government and the Capitol "District of Columbia" we find all sorts of symbolism from Egypt, Greece, Rome and in all honesty can also see a little cafe blend of Assyria, Persia and Babylon...............takes honesty, a lot of study and did I mention honesty with the facts......! Another Gentile world power exercising dominion over the Middle East!
 

posthuman

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I would suppose that it's the design that exemplifies its purpose, kinda like the difference between a 5 pointed star and a 6 pointed star. They're both stars, yet they're opposites in what they represent. Just sayin'
So the purpose speaks more to whether it is sacred or profane, a good it evil thing, than the geometry or substance of the form, yes?

i agree with that.
 

p_rehbein

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........and a small one at that...........

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar (Sigmund Freud).

That said, the Washington Monument is a pagan edifice. That's for you Americans to deal with. :)
 
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Just search the internet. You can find some interesting things about Masonic/Illuminati symbols all around the world.

The actions of the elite run parallel with end time prophecy.

It's a good study.:)
 

posthuman

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I'm near a literal Illuminati monument today. Looks like stonhenge a little. Elberton GA. Weird
 
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The obelisks aroud the world are phallic symbols and are pagan in orgin. I see that with regards to the washington monument that they have changed the height of the momment of 555ft aka 6660 inches to a foot lower Washington Monument gets new height: 554 feet, 7 and 11/32 inches - Washington Times

as for the obelisks in the vatican, washington DC are suppose to indicate city state statuses to those who are in secret societies.
 

DustyRhodes

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Hmmmm...i've seen many obelisks in my 70 plus years...to date not one of
those times did it remind me of a phallic image. Perhaps it's all in the eye of
the beholder.