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You changed the passage to suit you interpretation, as the passage says, calling upon God, there is a good reason the passage used the word God but you changed calling upon God to calling upon the Lord, you did that so the beginning of the passage would look like the end of the passage, by doing so, you remove God the Father out the passage, foolish.
Where does it say dagallen that Stephen called upon God at Acts 7:55,56 that you said I changed? Stephen said he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. Where does it say Stephen called upon God? If anything it is you that is changing the passages, you have to because you deny the deity of Jesus Christ which means your "dishonest" because you trying to make the passages mean what you want to mean and not what it actually says.
You also said this to valiant. "And here comes the one who believes the most High prays to the most High, LoL" Can you give me just one good reason why God Almighty can not become a man or human being? The reason I ask is because you think that we as trinitarians have two gods. So again, why can't the one God Almighty become a man? Do you really think that it's impossible dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
You also said this to valiant. "And here comes the one who believes the most High prays to the most High, LoL" Can you give me just one good reason why God Almighty can not become a man or human being? The reason I ask is because you think that we as trinitarians have two gods. So again, why can't the one God Almighty become a man? Do you really think that it's impossible dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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Where does it say dagallen that Stephen called upon God at Acts 7:55,56 that you said I changed? Stephen said he saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. Where does it say Stephen called upon God? If anything it is you that is changing the passages, you have to because you deny the deity of Jesus Christ which means your "dishonest" because you trying to make the passages mean what you want to mean and not what it actually says.
You also said this to valiant. "And here comes the one who believes the most High prays to the most High, LoL" Can you give me just one good reason why God Almighty can not become a man or human being? The reason I ask is because you think that we as trinitarians have two gods. So again, why can't the one God Almighty become a man? Do you really think that it's impossible dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
You also said this to valiant. "And here comes the one who believes the most High prays to the most High, LoL" Can you give me just one good reason why God Almighty can not become a man or human being? The reason I ask is because you think that we as trinitarians have two gods. So again, why can't the one God Almighty become a man? Do you really think that it's impossible dagallen?
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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Not so fast there dagallen. Remember we were talking about Acts 7:59 and you said Stephen was praying to God the Father and I said he was praying to Jesus Christ. I use the NASB and when it says, "called upon the Lord" well the words "the Lord are in italics which means they are not in the original Greek manuscripts.
You are probably using a King James Bible where it does say that Stephen was praying to God, however, God is also in italics and is not in the original manuscripts. So I did some more research and found some commentators who said the following;
"And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God - The word God is not found in any MS. or version, nor in any of the primitive fathers except Chrysostom. It is not genuine, and should not be inserted here: the whole sentence literally reads thus: And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit! Here is a most manifest proof that prayer is offered to Jesus Christ; and that in the most solemn circumstances in which it could be offered, viz., when a man was breathing his last. This is, properly speaking, one of the highest acts of worship which can be offered to God; and, if Stephen had not conceived Jesus Christ to be God, could he have committed his soul into his hands?
We may farther observe that this place affords a full proof of the immateriality of the soul; for he could not have commended his spirit to Christ, had he believed that he had no spirit, or, in other words, that his body and soul were one and the same thing. Allowing this most eminent saint to have had a correct notion of theology, and that, being full of the Holy Ghost, as he was at this time, he could make no mistake in matters of such vast weight and importance, then these two points are satisfactorily stated in this verse:
1. That Jesus Christ is God; for Stephen died praying to him.2. That the soul is immaterial; for Stephen, in dying, commends his departing spirit into the hand of Christ."
Another thing to notice (regarding point #2) is when Jesus was on the cross He said, "Father, into Thy hands I commit My Spirit" (Luke 23:46). Stephen on the other hand commited his spirit to Jesus Christ who is btw God in flesh and not two gods as you believe.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
You are probably using a King James Bible where it does say that Stephen was praying to God, however, God is also in italics and is not in the original manuscripts. So I did some more research and found some commentators who said the following;
"And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God - The word God is not found in any MS. or version, nor in any of the primitive fathers except Chrysostom. It is not genuine, and should not be inserted here: the whole sentence literally reads thus: And they stoned Stephen, invoking and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit! Here is a most manifest proof that prayer is offered to Jesus Christ; and that in the most solemn circumstances in which it could be offered, viz., when a man was breathing his last. This is, properly speaking, one of the highest acts of worship which can be offered to God; and, if Stephen had not conceived Jesus Christ to be God, could he have committed his soul into his hands?
We may farther observe that this place affords a full proof of the immateriality of the soul; for he could not have commended his spirit to Christ, had he believed that he had no spirit, or, in other words, that his body and soul were one and the same thing. Allowing this most eminent saint to have had a correct notion of theology, and that, being full of the Holy Ghost, as he was at this time, he could make no mistake in matters of such vast weight and importance, then these two points are satisfactorily stated in this verse:
1. That Jesus Christ is God; for Stephen died praying to him.2. That the soul is immaterial; for Stephen, in dying, commends his departing spirit into the hand of Christ."
Another thing to notice (regarding point #2) is when Jesus was on the cross He said, "Father, into Thy hands I commit My Spirit" (Luke 23:46). Stephen on the other hand commited his spirit to Jesus Christ who is btw God in flesh and not two gods as you believe.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Fighting over nothing....What's so hard to understand?
[SUP]54 [/SUP]On hearing these things, they were cut to their hearts and ground their teeth at him. [SUP]55 [/SUP]But he, full of the Ruach HaKodesh, looked up to heaven and saw God’s Sh’khinah, with Yeshua standing at the right hand of God. [SUP]56 [/SUP]“Look!” he exclaimed, “I see heaven opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”[SUP][t]
They hauled him outside the gates and stoned him
As they were stoning him, he called out to God
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[SUP]59 [/SUP]As they were stoning him, Stephen called out to God, “Lord Yeshua! Receive my spirit!” [SUP]60 [/SUP]Then he kneeled down and shouted out, “Lord! Don’t hold this sin against them!” With that, he died;
So....Read the chapter again and this time, listen to the Holy Spirit and let Him teach you.
[SUP]54 [/SUP]On hearing these things, they were cut to their hearts and ground their teeth at him. [SUP]55 [/SUP]But he, full of the Ruach HaKodesh, looked up to heaven and saw God’s Sh’khinah, with Yeshua standing at the right hand of God. [SUP]56 [/SUP]“Look!” he exclaimed, “I see heaven opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”[SUP][t]
They hauled him outside the gates and stoned him
As they were stoning him, he called out to God
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[SUP]59 [/SUP]As they were stoning him, Stephen called out to God, “Lord Yeshua! Receive my spirit!” [SUP]60 [/SUP]Then he kneeled down and shouted out, “Lord! Don’t hold this sin against them!” With that, he died;
So....Read the chapter again and this time, listen to the Holy Spirit and let Him teach you.
According to the Bible,Jesus told the disciples to not ask Him anything,but only ask the Father,and He will do it.
Joh 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Joh 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
After Jesus ascended to heaven,and when He comes back to abide with the saints by His Spirit,He said for the disciples to not ask Him anything,but only ask the Father,and He will do it.
Only ask the Father.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
But Jesus said when He ascends to heaven to ask Him,and He will do it.
Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,but then in another scripture Jesus said,ask Him,and He will do it.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Not 3 persons in one God,but the three relationships God has with His people designated by titles.
Father-parent of the saints,and Father of spirits.
Son-God's visible relationship to the saints,and the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb,God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus,which if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father,and Jesus at the right hand of God means God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power until His enemies are conquered,and then the Son shall submit to God,the Father,that God may be all in all.
There is only one throne in heaven,and one who sits on the throne,who is Jesus.
Holy Spirit-God's invisible relationship to the saints.
There is one God,who is a Holy Spirit,which the Spirit moved in creation,and Jesus was conceived by the Spirit,and the Spirit dwells in the saints,and Father is a title for God,and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.
Joh 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Joh 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
After Jesus ascended to heaven,and when He comes back to abide with the saints by His Spirit,He said for the disciples to not ask Him anything,but only ask the Father,and He will do it.
Only ask the Father.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,but then in another scripture Jesus said,ask Him,and He will do it.
But I am sure someone will come up with some kind of explanation why Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,and in another scripture,ask Him,and He will do it.
But there is no explanation but the truth,but someone will say something.
The Son shall be called the everlasting Father,and if you have seen Jesus then you have seen the Father.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
There is only one God,the Father,and one visible manifestation of God,and Savior,the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
The Bible only attributes the Father as God.
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
Joh 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Joh 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
After Jesus ascended to heaven,and when He comes back to abide with the saints by His Spirit,He said for the disciples to not ask Him anything,but only ask the Father,and He will do it.
Only ask the Father.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
But Jesus said when He ascends to heaven to ask Him,and He will do it.
Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,but then in another scripture Jesus said,ask Him,and He will do it.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
Joh 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Not 3 persons in one God,but the three relationships God has with His people designated by titles.
Father-parent of the saints,and Father of spirits.
Son-God's visible relationship to the saints,and the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb,God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus,which if you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father,and Jesus at the right hand of God means God exalted the man Christ Jesus to exercise the throne of power until His enemies are conquered,and then the Son shall submit to God,the Father,that God may be all in all.
There is only one throne in heaven,and one who sits on the throne,who is Jesus.
Holy Spirit-God's invisible relationship to the saints.
There is one God,who is a Holy Spirit,which the Spirit moved in creation,and Jesus was conceived by the Spirit,and the Spirit dwells in the saints,and Father is a title for God,and the Son is the man Christ Jesus.
Joh 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Joh 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
After Jesus ascended to heaven,and when He comes back to abide with the saints by His Spirit,He said for the disciples to not ask Him anything,but only ask the Father,and He will do it.
Only ask the Father.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,but then in another scripture Jesus said,ask Him,and He will do it.
But I am sure someone will come up with some kind of explanation why Jesus said do not ask Him,but only ask the Father,and He will do it,and in another scripture,ask Him,and He will do it.
But there is no explanation but the truth,but someone will say something.
The Son shall be called the everlasting Father,and if you have seen Jesus then you have seen the Father.
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
There is only one God,the Father,and one visible manifestation of God,and Savior,the Lord Jesus Christ.
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
The Bible only attributes the Father as God.
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.