To what end did Jesus put an end to the law?

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Food for thought...

The only child listening to his father was his first born son. The other kids were very unruly, never taking their father’s advise seriously. Chaos filled the house, till finally the father had had enough, and said to his oldest son, “put and end to this discord, and tell your siblings the way you see it.” They refuse to listen to me. Maybe you can shed a new light on what’s right and then they will know how to act right for their own good.

Romans 10:1-4
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

What does “Christ is the end of the law” really mean? Did Christ bring the law to an end? If so, which law did Christ end? The law of gravity? The law of nature? The law of consequence?

Paul clearly states “But *before faith came, we were **kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But *after that faith is come, we are **no longer under a schoolmaster.” (Galatians 3:23-25)

The law that Paul is addressing in Galatians...νόμος nómos, nom'-os; from a primary νέμω némō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), genitive case (regulation), specially, (of Moses (including the volume); also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle):—law.

The schoolmaster that Paul is addressing in Galatians...παιδαγωγός paidagōgós, pahee-dag-o-gos'; a boy-leader, i.e. a servant whose office it was to take the children to school; (by implication, (figuratively) a tutor ("pædagogue"): instructor, schoolmaster.

Schoolmaster… A tutor i.e. a guardian and guide of boys. Among the Greeks and the Romans the name was applied to trustworthy slaves who were charged with the duty of supervising the life and morals of boys belonging to the better class. The boys were not allowed so much as to step out of the house without them before arriving at *the age of manhood.
 
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So Christ is the end to what law? I missed the answer. I think I am dumb.
 
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I read it as: He is the end of keeping the law to obtain righteousness (even though that never really is how it was to begin with).
But this does not mean the law is done away with because we know that the law is spiritual and good.

He makes us to keep the law on our inside. And if the inside is clean, the outside just will be as well. If you don't murder someone first in your heart, there is no danger you will do it outwardly. If you do it outwardly, you have done it inwardly first.
 
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Food for thought...

The only child listening to his father was his first born son. The other kids were very unruly, never taking their father’s advise seriously. Chaos filled the house, till finally the father had had enough, and said to his oldest son, “put and end to this discord, and tell your siblings the way you see it.” They refuse to listen to me. Maybe you can shed a new light on what’s right and then they will know how to act right for their own good.

Romans 10:1-4
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

What does “Christ is the end of the law” really mean? Did Christ bring the law to an end? If so, which law did Christ end? The law of gravity? The law of nature? The law of consequence?

Paul clearly states “But *before faith came, we were **kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But *after that faith is come, we are **no longer under a schoolmaster.” (Galatians 3:23-25)

The law that Paul is addressing in Galatians...νόμος nómos, nom'-os; from a primary νέμω némō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), genitive case (regulation), specially, (of Moses (including the volume); also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle):—law.

The schoolmaster that Paul is addressing in Galatians...παιδαγωγός paidagōgós, pahee-dag-o-gos'; a boy-leader, i.e. a servant whose office it was to take the children to school; (by implication, (figuratively) a tutor ("pædagogue"): instructor, schoolmaster.

Schoolmaster… A tutor i.e. a guardian and guide of boys. Among the Greeks and the Romans the name was applied to trustworthy slaves who were charged with the duty of supervising the life and morals of boys belonging to the better class. The boys were not allowed so much as to step out of the house without them before arriving at *the age of manhood.
Jesus did not come to end the law. Matthew 5:17 (CJB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]“Don’t think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete.
 
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The Law (Moral Law, 10 commandments) is holy and good.
(Romans 7:12, Romans 7:16,1Timothy 1:8)

It stands as normative and absolute throughout the scriptures. A school teacher to bring us to faith in Christ Jesus. It is not to be removed.
Five Biblical Principles of Reformation,(Galatians 3:19-25),(Matthew 5:17-19).

The just will live by faith.
(Romans 1:17),(Galatians 3:11),(Hebrews 10:38)

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Romans 3:27-28
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Romans 8:2-4

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 
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CHRIST put an end to the law needing to be kept by man because man could not keep the law perfectly.The law produced sin and death for man because man was not able to keep GOD's law perfectly and GOD will only accept perfection?

GOD's law Is perfect but man was carnal,although man wanted to keep GOD's law he would be brought Into captivity to the law of sin because of the weakness of his flesh whenever he tried to keep the law,and since GOD will only accept perfection,men were going to come up short of the glory of GOD.

Man needed a savior.

Thank GOD for Grace by sending JESUS.

JESUS Made a way,bridging the gap.

Grace through FAITH.
 

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The law produced sin and death for man because man was not able to keep GOD's law perfectly and GOD will only accept perfection?
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How does God's perfect Word produce something that is against God's perfect Word, like sin and death? Didn't God's Word come in the flesh to save us from what you say it produced? Is God actually against Himself for our sakes? Your statement is totally confusing, and God is not the author of confusion.
 
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How does God's perfect Word produce something that is against God's perfect Word, like sin and death? Didn't God's Word come in the flesh to save us from what you say it produced? Is God actually against Himself for our sakes? Your statement is totally confusing, and God is not the author of confusion.
The law makes sin clear to us. Sin produced the curse of sickness and death. You knew that.
 

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The law makes sin clear to us. Sin produced the curse of sickness and death. You knew that.
Then lust, not God's law produces sin, and sin produces death. The law makes it clear that this is what happens when we reject the instructions that come from God. It doesn't come from His Word, but it is His Word that shows us how death happens. Death is not from God, sin and death is from the Devil, and life is from God. So the law didn't come to an end through Christ, sin came to an end through Christ. Sacrifice is complete in Him, but not alleviated. I agree with you.

"Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:15)

Now we present ourselves as a sacrifice.

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. (Romans 12:1)
 
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Just a thought....maybe consider that God in His Word is talking about more than just salvation.. What I am saying is that as far as salvation goes that is Christ and Christ alone, Jesus took away the sins of the world so spiritually we are sin free once saved. That does not change the fact that a sin filled life will lead to us being taken from this earth sooner than we need to be. It also blocks any chance of a joyful life. I think we often confuse salvation instructions with instructions for a good life. Shalom.
 
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How does God's perfect Word produce something that is against God's perfect Word, like sin and death? Didn't God's Word come in the flesh to save us from what you say it produced? Is God actually against Himself for our sakes? Your statement is totally confusing, and God is not the author of confusion.
After Adam fell he would now have to keep GOD's law In his own strength to be perfect like our FATHER In heaven and because of the weakness of his flesh,he would come short of the glory of GOD.GOD's law became Impossible for him to keep perfectly...Remember that even If the person sins even In thought,they are guilty of offending GOD's perfect standard of righteousness(the law).

So then GOD's standard Is perfect but man Is carnal.

Somebody might ask,why did GOD do It that way,GOD Is sovereign,right?

GOD loves righteousness and gave man the right to make a choice,man made the wrong choice but Instead of GOD walking away from man,HE made a way for man by sending HIS WORD manifested In flesh(JESUS) to be an atoning sacrifice for man.
 
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You just flop in the slop, until you get tired of that and want to change,
 

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After Adam fell he would now have to keep GOD's law In his own strength to be perfect like our FATHER In heaven and because of the weakness of his flesh,he would come short of the glory of GOD.GOD's law became Impossible for him to keep perfectly...Remember that even If the person sins even In thought,they are guilty of offending GOD's perfect standard of righteousness(the law).

So then GOD's standard Is perfect but man Is carnal.

Somebody might ask,why did GOD do It that way,GOD Is sovereign,right?

GOD loves righteousness and gave man the right to make a choice,man made the wrong choice but Instead of GOD walking away from man,HE made a way for man by sending HIS WORD manifested In flesh(JESUS) to be an atoning sacrifice for man.
And yes, the law entered because of transgression Nowhere in scripture does it say that transgression entered because of the law. Chronology is really important concerning the dispensations of Almighty God through Christ Jesus. Amen brother! You present the truth as I see it.
 

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So Christ is the end to what law? I missed the answer. I think I am dumb.
Here's your answer: Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.

What this simply means is that for all those Jews who were hoping to establish their righteousness by the works of the Law, Christ put an end to that false idea. Why? Because no man could be justified by the works of the Law, but all sinners would be justified by grace through faith.

This has nothing to do with nullifying the Law, or portions of it.
 

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Here's your answer: Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.

What this simply means is that for all those Jews who were hoping to establish their righteousness by the works of the Law, Christ put an end to that false idea. Why? Because no man could be justified by the works of the Law, but all sinners would be justified by grace through faith.

This has nothing to do with nullifying the Law, or portions of it.

EXACTLY! Right on!
 
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And yes, the law entered because of transgression Nowhere in scripture does it say that transgression entered because of the law. Chronology is really important concerning the dispensations of Almighty God through Christ Jesus. Amen brother! You present the truth as I see it.
Yes,after Adam chose to do his own will and disobey GOD,sin and death entered the world and all men with Adams seed had the sin nature.

Everyman would have to be righteous on their own until JESUS came.

Yes,law entered because of that transgression,but GOD's law overwhelmed man because of the weakness of man's flesh.
 
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Christ fulfilled the law, he put an end to it as a means ones must used to earn the right to heaven, which no he could fulfill, because he made a better way via the cross.
 

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Yes,after Adam chose to do his own will and disobey GOD,sin and death entered the world and all men with Adams seed had the sin nature.

Everyman would have to be righteous on their own until JESUS came.

Yes,law entered because of that transgression,but GOD's law overwhelmed man because of the weakness of man's flesh.
I am currently reading a book on occult practises. Come to find out, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is very closely related to the occult doctrine of Deepak Chopra. It's like we are god's within ourselves and have the perfect right to chose right and wrong for ourselves outside of the directives of true right and wrong by the Word of God.

Chopra concludes: “For the sake of keeping society together, religions hold it as a duty to respect goodness and abhor evil. Hence a paradox: the person who wants to be liberated [where nothing is good or evil] is acting against God. Many devout Christians find themselves baffled by Eastern spirituality because they cannot resolve this paradox. How can God want us to be good and yet want us to go beyond good?”

Chopra misunderstands because he does not know the true God of the Bible. Jesus Christ said that the only one Who is good is GOD (Matt. 19:17). To go “beyond good” is to go beyond God—be greater than God Himself—which is an absolute impossibility.


Yet, there is another meaning that Chopra is implying. In going “beyond good,” one may choose a life of sin or lawlessness without guilt. Hence, one is “liberated.” To substantiate this claim, he shows that according to Hinduism there is a right-hand and a left-hand path to God: “The answer takes place in consciousness. Saints in every culture turn out to be exemplars of goodness, shining with virtue. But the Hindu religious writings informs us that there are no outward signs of enlightenment, which means that saints do not have to obey any conventional standards of behaviour.





 
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Colossians 2:10-22
[FONT=&quot]10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?[/FONT]