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stonesoffire

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Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is giving credit to Satan for the works done of God, said Jesus to he Pharisees. It is only unpardonable if not repented of by the way.....if one hardens their heart to the truth to the point that they can no longer repent, then it becomes the unpardonable sin...by the way; this man Grace777, is severely deceived and deceiving others. Deceived people dont know when they are deceived and under strong delusion. I hope he repents and comes to the light.......be blessed
Lord God, bless this man with merciful blessings,
 
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willybob

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Here is the clinching verse that cannot be circumvented…Jesus Christ THE SAME yesterday, today, and forever. If He had become sin at any time that would negate this verse. Also when one dies in sin they go to hell,and Jesus Himself said there is no escaping that place…… be blessed in truth
 

Magenta

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You really don't understand why Magenta (not magnita) would say that scripture? Past...the past. Nothing of flesh will come before the Lord.

She knows who and and what she is. Talk about twisting words.
Thank you, Stonesoffire. How anyone can equate my quoting Scripture with asserting the same means I support sin is... well, it's rather ridiculous, to put it mildly :)
 

Magenta

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Here is the clinching verse that cannot be circumvented…Jesus Christ THE SAME yesterday, today, and forever. If He had become sin at any time that would negate this verse. Also when one dies in sin they go to hell,and Jesus Himself said there is no escaping that place…… be blessed in truth
God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that
in him we might become the righteousness of God.
2 Corinthians 5:21
 
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I love it when I get to give my testimony of the grace and love my Lord Jesus Christ has done for me. Hopefully this will keep the malice and slander down to a minimum but if it doesn't - it's ok - we just bless them and pray for them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and leave them in the hands of the Lord.

I will give you my testimony of what the Lord has done when He revealed to me my complete dependence on the gospel of the grace of Christ.

He has changed my mind ( As, only God can give true repentance ) on how I view a lot of things concerning Him and my life in Christ and of course that means all kinds of different sin - for "whatsoever is not of faith is in fact sin ". .

If people feel the need to castigate what the Lord has done in my life - then so be it. I am not denying Christ in me and what He has done. I am not ashamed of the gospel - for in it is the power of God for real salvation and in "it" - the gospel - the righteousness of God is revealed.

I have a great passion for Christ!..here is what knowing Him because of the revelation of the gospel of the grace of Christ has done for me.

I was praying one morning and thinking about how the grace of Christ has affected me. I had the scripture come up in my spirit where the Pharisees were arguing about whether a man was born blind or not after Jesus healed him.

Of course the Pharisees were trying to discredit the message of Jesus. The man said.." All I know is that I was born blind but now I see
."

This is what the gospel of the grace of Christ has done in my life:

I realize that these beliefs in the grace of God....especially the gift of righteousness and the acceptance grace, repentance from dead works and the total forgiveness that Jesus bought and paid for with His blood....that these can be offensive to our religious beliefs and what we have been taught in church. (they were initially to me as well )

This gospel of the wondrous grace of Christ has had a beautiful affect on me. I am more in love with Jesus and the Father more then ever....in love with studying His word....praying in the spirit constantly with a heart full of joy!

This gospel has given me a compassion for other people and to reach out in love to them. To give more than I ever have with a heart full of love.

To live a holier life in Him...which is not only living separate from the "biggie sins" but everything that He reveals about anything that is contrary to life and His nature that is in me....this has led me to be a witness of the life and love of our Lord in me.

If these are the horrible fruit of the grace of Christ in me....I want more!.....give me more grace please my Lord and God!



I am living a much fuller life now, more deeply in love with Jesus and the Father then ever before or ever dreamed was possible and I am just starting.

I am free from the horrible religion of self-effort, having the love of God pour out in me to help others now that I understand the grace that is in Christ then I did when I was doing the self-performance based gospel ( which is not the gospel )

Religion is a very poor substitute for knowing the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I was blind but now I see.
I see Jesus and His finished work for me!

It
will always be in eternity "Worthy is the Lamb"..

It will never be.."Worthy is the Lamb......and me..because I did my own D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness to help Jesus out"


It has always been about Jesus and Him alone and it will always remain that way for all eternity.
 

stonesoffire

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Agree Grace777. That's what the goodness of the Lord does to us. Great testimony to Him.
 
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Here is the clinching verse that cannot be circumvented…Jesus Christ THE SAME yesterday, today, and forever. If He had become sin at any time that would negate this verse. Also when one dies in sin they go to hell,and Jesus Himself said there is no escaping that place…… be blessed in truth
and the Bible says he did go to hell, but did not undergo corruption.....you are way off base here willy....

Psalm 16.10
Acts 13
Psalm 68
Eph 4
1 Peter 3
 

joaniemarie

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For the record, Scriptures support the fact of the existence of sin.
Yes, I affirm that :)

For the record, sin is condemned in Scripture.
Yes, I support that :)

Anyone who says I believe Scriptures support sin
in any other way is misstating something horribly.


I KNOW!!!!! Sometimes when I come on CC and people comment on something I've posted it feels like we have entered "THE TWILIGHT ZONE"

Mags., your posts are clear and concise so please know it's not your writing., it's the reader who comes into the thread with a preconceived idea.


I can't tell you how many times when we are in awe and worship of the grace of God in Christ and witness about it here on these threads in these forums., that some people come on here and say what we are reeeallllly and in "actuality" saying is; you can sin alllllll you want and even be a child molester and a satan worshiper and go to heaven. SAY WHAT?????



Yes.... at times it feels like we have entered.....THE TWILIGHT ZONE!!
 

joaniemarie

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Lord God, bless this man with merciful blessings,

You are so loving sister. My prayer for the man is that the Lord would please open this man's closed mind to the truth of Your Son and Your Holy Spirit so he can live in peace with other believers he comes in contact with here on these threads., that this man will realize that the true measure of a believers contact with Jesus is how much LOVE he has for the brethren. For if he cannot love those who are his brothers and sisters., how can he ever hope to witness to lost sinners?
 

joaniemarie

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I love it when I get to give my testimony of the grace and love my Lord Jesus Christ has done for me. Hopefully this will keep the malice and slander down to a minimum but if it doesn't - it's ok - we just bless them and pray for them in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and leave them in the hands of the Lord.

I will give you my testimony of what the Lord has done when He revealed to me my complete dependence on the gospel of the grace of Christ.

He has changed my mind ( As, only God can give true repentance ) on how I view a lot of things concerning Him and my life in Christ and of course that means all kinds of different sin - for "whatsoever is not of faith is in fact sin ". .

If people feel the need to castigate what the Lord has done in my life - then so be it. I am not denying Christ in me and what He has done. I am not ashamed of the gospel - for in it is the power of God for real salvation and in "it" - the gospel - the righteousness of God is revealed.

I have a great passion for Christ!..here is what knowing Him because of the revelation of the gospel of the grace of Christ has done for me.

I was praying one morning and thinking about how the grace of Christ has affected me. I had the scripture come up in my spirit where the Pharisees were arguing about whether a man was born blind or not after Jesus healed him.

Of course the Pharisees were trying to discredit the message of Jesus. The man said.." All I know is that I was born blind but now I see
."

This is what the gospel of the grace of Christ has done in my life:

I realize that these beliefs in the grace of God....especially the gift of righteousness and the acceptance grace, repentance from dead works and the total forgiveness that Jesus bought and paid for with His blood....that these can be offensive to our religious beliefs and what we have been taught in church. (they were initially to me as well )

This gospel of the wondrous grace of Christ has had a beautiful affect on me. I am more in love with Jesus and the Father more then ever....in love with studying His word....praying in the spirit constantly with a heart full of joy!

This gospel has given me a compassion for other people and to reach out in love to them. To give more than I ever have with a heart full of love.

To live a holier life in Him...which is not only living separate from the "biggie sins" but everything that He reveals about anything that is contrary to life and His nature that is in me....this has led me to be a witness of the life and love of our Lord in me.

If these are the horrible fruit of the grace of Christ in me....I want more!.....give me more grace please my Lord and God!



I am living a much fuller life now, more deeply in love with Jesus and the Father then ever before or ever dreamed was possible and I am just starting.

I am free from the horrible religion of self-effort, having the love of God pour out in me to help others now that I understand the grace that is in Christ then I did when I was doing the self-performance based gospel ( which is not the gospel )

Religion is a very poor substitute for knowing the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I was blind but now I see.
I see Jesus and His finished work for me!

It
will always be in eternity "Worthy is the Lamb"..

It will never be.."Worthy is the Lamb......and me..because I did my own D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness to help Jesus out"


It has always been about Jesus and Him alone and it will always remain that way for all eternity.

Thank you Bruce... this post bears repeating!!
 

Magenta

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I KNOW!!!!! Sometimes when I come on CC and people comment on something I've posted it feels like we have entered "THE TWILIGHT ZONE"

Mags., your posts are clear and concise so please know it's not your writing., it's the reader who comes into the thread with a preconceived idea.


I can't tell you how many times when we are in awe and worship of the grace of God in Christ and witness about it here on these threads in these forums., that some people come on here and say what we are reeeallllly and in "actuality" saying is; you can sin alllllll you want and even be a child molester and a satan worshiper and go to heaven. SAY WHAT?????


Yes.... at times it feels like we have entered.....THE TWILIGHT ZONE!!
Thank you for your words of encouragement and support, JoanieMarie :) I appreciate you letting me know that you find my posts clear and concise, because that is what I aim for. It seems some people do not like that, for my plain statements get distorted so far beyond recognition, it is obvious the other has read much into what was not even there, nor intended, that they are operating from error right off the bat, and then they will blame me for their lack of comprehension, invalid assumptions, false accusations, and worse. Thanks again...


 

joaniemarie

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Just a share here. It does my heart so good to read of the love of God in Christ that we have for each other on these forums. That many of us know we don't have to worry about defending ourselves. That we are daily being delivered from the carnal mind that thinks depleting others for Christ is in anyway a possibility!!!.

How do we Christians get to the point here on these forums on CC where we actually believe that bringing down someone is in any way up lifting Jesus? We know this ONLY from the Holy Spirit witnessing to our spirit it does not uphold Christ. We know only by the Holy Spirit witnessing to us how lost and confused the human religious mind is without Him ministering to us and filling us each day. We NEED that filling daily or we will fall back into our old ways of dealing with other people and with life.

Thank you!!! YOU lovely bunch of gracious brothers and sisters in Christ for being such a good example to me. Even though I see there is a long way to go., the fact that there is no more condemnation to those who are IN Christ Jesus sustains and allows me to continue. It's truly a gift to come to CC some days and be blessed by you while reading your posts., and to be able to type out words of gratitude and JOY in the Holy Spirit for you!!!! It's so good to share what the Lord Jesus can do and is doing!
 

joaniemarie

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Thank you for your words of encouragement and support, JoanieMarie :) I appreciate you letting me know that you find my posts clear and concise, because that is what I aim for. It seems some people do not like that, for my plain statements get distorted so far beyond recognition, it is obvious the other has read much into what was not even there, nor intended, that they are operating from error right off the bat, and then they will blame me for their lack of comprehension, invalid assumptions, false accusations, and worse. Thanks again...




Oh thank you Mags!! Bless you dear sister. You are a ray of Son-shine!!!!
 

joaniemarie

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Oh and since I'm on a roll,
it's also great to get to a point (at times) here on CC when we actually are not run down or discouraged by coming here! I felt so bad for WineRose who is 15 and got "depleted" She was not depleted in our eyes but the discouragement I'm sure was depleting to her.

I sure hope if we can do anything here on CC when we come each day or each week and type out words., we are welcoming and loving to those young people who ask about the hope that is in us!!! We are not perfect people but because of Jesus we are works in progress. I hope WineRose will come back and forgive the imperfections. Posts here come and go and words are written in the MILLIONS!!! Many of the words are often a total waste of our time.

There have been times I've spent hours on a letter only to see that it was just self indulgent words and ended up deleted them all. Then there have been times I've written a letter and see that it was Jesus who was seen even to me when I re read it! It really only matters what is written when it is true and coming from the Holy Spirit working in us. It needs to be lovely. Just like the Bible says we should think on things that are good and right and just. I see that I should always try to write that way here too and know that many of the believers who type here feel the same. Phil.4:8

[SUP]8 [/SUP]For the rest, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is worthy of reverence and is honorable and seemly, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely and lovable, whatever is kind and winsome and gracious, if there is any virtue and excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think on and weigh and take account of these things [fix your minds on them].





[SUP]6 [/SUP]Do not fret or have any anxiety about anything, but in every circumstance and in everything, by prayer and petition ([SUP][a][/SUP]definite requests), with thanksgiving, continue to make your wants known to God.
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7 [/SUP]And God’s peace [shall be yours, that [SUP][b][/SUP]tranquil state of a soul assured of its salvation through Christ, and so fearing nothing from God and being content with its earthly lot of whatever sort that is, that peace] which transcends all understanding shall [SUP][c][/SUP]garrison and mount guard over your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.
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8 [/SUP]For the rest, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is worthy of reverence and is honorable and seemly, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely and lovable, whatever is kind and winsome and gracious, if there is any virtue and excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think on and weigh and take account of these things [fix your minds on them].
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9 [/SUP]Practice what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, and model your way of living on it, and the God of peace (of [SUP][d][/SUP]untroubled, undisturbed well-being) will be with you.


 
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willybob

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I was quoting Scripture. Do you really not understand what Isaiah 64:6 a means???
absolutely Magnita;; The RIGHTEOUS prophet Isaiah was speaking to the nation of Israel as a whole, telling them their religious works were as filthy rags, because they were not done in heart purity therefore they were living in iniquity> God says He loves OBEDIENCE over religious works and ceremonial sacrifices............Also the RIGHTEOUS were spoken of in verse 5, and contrasted against the wicked...You defend and always number yourself among the wicked..Why is that?

4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.

Isiah the prophet, was righteous, and knew that God joined in covenant with the righteous...these are contrasted against the wicked in verse 6......You will find this on almost every page of the bible....

I think what you are unable to fathom, is that the door is narrow and few be that find it and enter in...The bible is about a small group of remnant believers from genesis to revelation...(its called remnant theology) the overwhelming majority of professed Christians are not willing to crucify the flesh with its passions and desires in repentance (this, by the way, is what it means to come to the cross) and lay down all our weapons of sin against God...However, most will heap upon themselves teachers having itching ears that make the path wide and pleasing to the flesh...always been that way, always will continue that way up to the last day...

so i ask again, why number yourself among the rebellious in Isiah 64? Why not number stand along side of the righteous like Isiah?

again verse 5 SAYS; God joins with those that rejoice WORK RIGHTEOUSNESS,(COVENANT) but you and your comrades say none can do righteous works, and all your works are as filthy rags..so what am I to do other than take you'all at your word, and assume you must be speaking of the vile sins of the flesh that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom, when you say you all sin everyday in thought word and deed..The devil cant do worse than that.............be blessed
 
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willybob

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absolutely Magnita;; The RIGHTEOUS prophet Isaiah was speaking to the nation of Israel as a whole, telling them their religious works were as filthy rags, because they were not done in heart purity therefore they were living in iniquity> God says He loves OBEDIENCE over religious works and ceremonial sacrifices............Also the RIGHTEOUS were spoken of in verse 5, and contrasted against the wicked...You defend and always number yourself among the wicked..Why is that?

4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.

Isiah the prophet, was righteous, and knew that God joined in covenant with the righteous...these are contrasted against the wicked in verse 6......You will find this on almost every page of the bible....

I think what you are unable to fathom, is that the door is narrow and few be that find it and enter in...The bible is about a small group of remnant believers from genesis to revelation...(its called remnant theology) the overwhelming majority of professed Christians are not willing to crucify the flesh with its passions and desires in repentance (this, by the way, is what it means to come to the cross) and lay down all our weapons of sin against God...However, most will heap upon themselves teachers having itching ears that make the path wide and pleasing to the flesh...always been that way, always will continue that way up to the last day...

so i ask again, why number yourself among the rebellious in Isiah 64? Why not number stand along side of the righteous like Isiah?

again verse 5 SAYS; God joins with those that rejoice WORK RIGHTEOUSNESS,(COVENANT) but you and your comrades say none can do righteous works, and all your works are as filthy rags..so what am I to do other than take you'all at your word, and assume you must be speaking of the vile sins of the flesh that Paul said would disqualify one from the kingdom, when you say you all sin everyday in thought word and deed..The devil cant do worse than that.............be blessed

AND; Today the so-called church denominations are full of religious works> speggitte dinners, awards meetings, rummage sales, bake sales, tithing sermons, bingo night, lotto charity drives, alter calls, etc. etc. …yes indeed these type works are all as filthy rags as in the days of Isaiah. God is looking for heart purity and obedience to the truth, and not the religious glorified works of Christianity that elevate her institutions.....be blessed
 
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willybob

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God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that
in him we might become the righteousness of God.
2 Corinthians 5:21
that's ONE VERSE with italicized added words.....what are you going to do about the other verses that clearly say He was a sin offering? why wont you let the Holy Spirit teach you, rather than the foolish traditions of man? (the old wine)
 

Magenta

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that's ONE VERSE with italicized added words.....what are you going to do about the other verses that clearly say He was a sin offering? why wont you let the Holy Spirit teach you, rather than the foolish traditions of man? (the old wine)
You are not the Holy Spirit.