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Rosemaryx

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Hi all...I know that nothing can separate us from the love of God as Paul goes to a wonderful extreme to tell us :) but what happens to those who separate themselves from the Love of God...God loves us all, saved or unsaved, but people who have been saved and walked many years of their life in the Lord can lose their love, then their hearts harden, i think i see the many warnings in the bible that speaks of this, can`t pull Scripture up to what i am saying, just a thought:confused:...Is this not what Hebrews 6 speaks about...xox...
 
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UnderGrace said:
I can only say this, from all that I have seen of heretic hunting on the internet, is that every person becomes a heretic to someone else.

But, I feel like Satan is having a great laugh, having been played by all of his cunning devices

Somewhere in this mess the call to love has been lost.
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Calling out false teachers isn't practicing lost love. That seems to be the mantra towards those who expose false teachers though, and frankly it's misplaced.
 
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Rosemaryx said:
Hi all...I know that nothing can separate us from the love of God as Paul goes to a wonderful extreme to tell us :) but what happens to those who separate themselves from the Love of God...God loves us all, saved or unsaved, but people who have been saved and walked many years of their life in the Lord can lose their love, then their hearts harden, i think i see the many warnings in the bible that speaks of this, can`t pull Scripture up to what i am saying, just a thought:confused:...Is this not what Hebrews 6 speaks about...xox...
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you have discerned, correctly...
 
stonesoffire

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Stephen63 said:
When someone claims to be a seminarian, they're greatly accountable for knowing Bible knowledge.

You didn't know that?!?
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What I know is that you who are grouped together post negative scriptures. Why? Faith is not negative. And grace being unmerited? Why put burdens on others when you yourself cannot bear them? Faith is for us. Grace is for us. God is for us. Nothing can separate us from Him and His love.

If one of you guys ever was hugged by Holy Spirit, you would change your tune.
 
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stonesoffire said:
What I know is that you who are grouped together post negative scriptures. Why? Faith is not negative. And grace being unmerited? Why put burdens on others when you yourself cannot bear them? Faith is for us. Grace is for us. God is for us. Nothing can separate us from Him and His love.

If one of you guys ever was hugged by Holy Spirit, you would change your tune.
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what negative scriptures?

2 Timothy 3:16
 
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stonesoffire

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loveme1 said:
what negative scriptures?
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Wrong wording. Negative meanings to scripture.

Not rightly dividing. Who is being spoken to and what is the subject?

You must realize too that the scriptures are written out of eastern mindsets and we are western. Then we try to apply our culture and understanding to them.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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stonesoffire said:
I plain out already told you my motives. You blast others but do the same things they do. Then say it's discerning. If you are discerning, it's a spirit that's discerned, not the person. So deal with the spirit, not the person.
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It is sad that you used to be a supporter of his, and his actions has caused yo to finally question, and now he is attacking you also.

 
SovereignGrace

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Rosemaryx said:
Hi all...I know that nothing can separate us from the love of God as Paul goes to a wonderful extreme to tell us :) but what happens to those who separate themselves from the Love of God...God loves us all, saved or unsaved, but people who have been saved and walked many years of their life in the Lord can lose their love, then their hearts harden, i think i see the many warnings in the bible that speaks of this, can`t pull Scripture up to what i am saying, just a thought:confused:...Is this not what Hebrews 6 speaks about...xox...
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If you have separated yourself from the love of God, then Romans 8:38-39 becomes false. Nothing can separate us from that love...not even us.
 
Stephen63

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Meggido said:
Dear readers...look closer, he smears me by suggesting I am angry...he wants you to think I am angry and uncontrolled so he can build up a case....this is all this one does....then look closer again and at the lengths they argue away scripture....he does not back anything up with scripture and also has very poor understanding of the different stages of the Exodus and deliverance....

He belongs with the rest on ignore, and I am doing so now...he is also trying to play detective....all in the hopes of getting me banned....ignore is the best place for PennED....
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I couldn't tell you how many times PennED has done this to me! Using his gentle, deceptive writing to tell everyone how "angry" I am , or that I have "issues" that need to be resolved.

It's sickening how he plays the part of feeling sorry for you, all the while trying to get the readers & the Mods to believe him.

This type of deceptive hypocrisy is I believe the worst of all.
 
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loveme1

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stonesoffire said:
Wrong wording. Negative meanings to scripture.

Not rightly dividing. Who is being spoken to and what is the subject?

You must realize too that the scriptures are written out of eastern mindsets and we are western. Then we try to apply our culture and understanding to them.
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2 Timothy 3 16..... 17 telling also...
 
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Stunnedbygrace said:
G7, you just keep on Mr!
They will see it one day, and until then, you just keep on. :)
I have come to understand what you say more and more - even the parts I would word differently, I have come to understand what you mean. :)
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Thank you. I can understand the hostility for I had it too until the Lord showed me His true grace and love in His work on the cross and resurrection.

None of us know all things to do with any subject. Paul says "those that think they know something - don't know it as they ought to."

We are all learning how to live by the life of Another in us and we are dealing with this brain that needs to be renewed to the realities of Christ in us.

It does no good to interact with those that are hostile as no one can "make" people believe. It's a revelation of the heart - the same way we got saved - by the Holy Spirit revealing the things of Christ to us.

We should just bless them and pray for them. The Lord will be faithful to reveal Himself to all of us.

We don't have a relationship with a "doctrine" - we have "Him".

Colossians 3:2-4 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

[SUP]4 [/SUP] When Christ, who is our life, is revealed, then you also will be revealed with Him in glory.



All is well...:)..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Rosemaryx said:
Hi all...I know that nothing can separate us from the love of God as Paul goes to a wonderful extreme to tell us :) but what happens to those who separate themselves from the Love of God...God loves us all, saved or unsaved, but people who have been saved and walked many years of their life in the Lord can lose their love, then their hearts harden, i think i see the many warnings in the bible that speaks of this, can`t pull Scripture up to what i am saying, just a thought:confused:...Is this not what Hebrews 6 speaks about...xox...
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if NOTHING can separate us from the lob of God, it means us too, since we are something,

if if we could separate S from the love of God, the word could not say nothing it would have to say nothing but us,

hebrews 6 is talking about those who return to law where cu states oncan fall away and lose salvation, it tells us, if we could fall away, we can never be renewed, thus even th thought pits Christ to open shame.


 
Locutus

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I just bought meself a broad brush.....not sure what to do with now...:p
 
PennEd

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Meggido said:
Dear readers...look closer, he smears me by suggesting I am angry...he wants you to think I am angry and uncontrolled so he can build up a case....this is all this one does....then look closer again and at the lengths they argue away scripture....he does not back anything up with scripture and also has very poor understanding of the different stages of the Exodus and deliverance....

He belongs with the rest on ignore, and I am doing so now...he is also trying to play detective....all in the hopes of getting me banned....ignore is the best place for PennED....
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I agree with you. Ignore it is for you. I have truly attempted to be at peace with you, though you visciously lash out at so many people. The ONLY TRUTH I will go to the mat for is the one True Gospel. I had already fully admitted that your interpretation on the Children of Israel could be the right one.
But your pride and arrogance knows very little restraint.
I feel for the congregants of your church. Such little love!!

I know, I know, YOUR truth trumps the need to show love. Rage if you will.

I'm sorry to my brothers and sisters. I know I have spoken about taking the abuse from people in love. Shows I still need to grow. Love to you all in His Name.
 
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