She feels attacked and bullied sister. That's how she feels. At that point, whether there was any animosity on your part or not, this is how she feels and how she has perceived things. So what matters is clearing it up, not challenging her. (IF it is at all within your power to make peace, whether that be letting her know you didn't mean to cause her to feel that way or whether it may be that you think you see a mistake in how you spoke or what you said, or maybe that you felt attacked and so yes, you attacked back - IF it is at all within your power, work for peace and forgiveness.)
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I can't think of any other way then for her to show me where I bullied and attacked her stunned. I know I did not. In fact I thought it was the other way around.
I need to be shown where I erred. I know what I said yesterday...I own up to that. But, my comments were few compared to others. So why the tirade against me?
I've backed down before stunned from things like this. No more. I've been released from holding my peace and the word to me now is to let my good be shown.
So if I have done what she says...I need to see it and will own it. This is not the same as you and EG.
I need to be shown where I erred. I know what I said yesterday...I own up to that. But, my comments were few compared to others. So why the tirade against me?
I've backed down before stunned from things like this. No more. I've been released from holding my peace and the word to me now is to let my good be shown.
So if I have done what she says...I need to see it and will own it. This is not the same as you and EG.
Are you telling people it is OK to not trust God in every area of their life and God is not only OK with this but expects it?
And you get this free pass of not trusting him in all our areas of our, because you are saved and have 100% trust in salvation?
Hebrews 11.6
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.
Mistrust is the byproduct of unforgiveness and bitterness and we are admonished not to engage in mistrust but pursue peace with all men...
Hebrews 12.14-17
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. [SUP]15 [/SUP]See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; [SUP]16 [/SUP]that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.
Someone could read what you posted and think this...that porn addiction I have...well I do not have to trust God to take care of it because I trust that he saved me and that is all that matters...so I can continue in this porn addiction and not worry, because I do not have to trust God in all areas of my life and since I have eternal life it does not matter...
And that EG, is turning the grace of God into lasciviousness.....maybe you did not mean any of this, but this is exactly what you seemed to be possibly saying or implying......If you are not then my apologies in advance...
And you get this free pass of not trusting him in all our areas of our, because you are saved and have 100% trust in salvation?
Hebrews 11.6
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.
Mistrust is the byproduct of unforgiveness and bitterness and we are admonished not to engage in mistrust but pursue peace with all men...
Hebrews 12.14-17
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. [SUP]15 [/SUP]See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled; [SUP]16 [/SUP]that there be no immoral or godless person like Esau, who sold his own birthright for a single meal. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For you know that even afterwards, when he desired to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought for it with tears.
Someone could read what you posted and think this...that porn addiction I have...well I do not have to trust God to take care of it because I trust that he saved me and that is all that matters...so I can continue in this porn addiction and not worry, because I do not have to trust God in all areas of my life and since I have eternal life it does not matter...
And that EG, is turning the grace of God into lasciviousness.....maybe you did not mean any of this, but this is exactly what you seemed to be possibly saying or implying......If you are not then my apologies in advance...
I'm not tirading. I'm encouraging you. Admit what you think you could have handled better if you see any place where you may have been culpable in perpetuating it. Instead of comparing how many comments you made in comparison to her, just admit your own. You said you own up to what you said yesterday. If that's true, just say where you think you could have done better.
Comparing how many times you believe you could have spoken better to how many times you think she could have spoken better is not going to help. So you be the one to start.
Comparing how many times you believe you could have spoken better to how many times you think she could have spoken better is not going to help. So you be the one to start.
I'm not tirading. I'm encouraging you. Admit what you think you could have handled better if you see any place where you may have been culpable in perpetuating it. Instead of comparing how many comments you made in comparison to her, just admit your own. You said you own up to what you said yesterday. If that's true, just say where you think you could have done better.
Comparing how many times you believe you could have spoken better to how many times you think she could have spoken better is not going to help. So you be the one to start.
Comparing how many times you believe you could have spoken better to how many times you think she could have spoken better is not going to help. So you be the one to start.
This is what I am talking about. I've tried real hard to answer her back in posts, but I've got personal comments back rather than scripture or what is truth.
Sometimes we have to let the Lord work it out in patience. I think this is one of those times. I am willing to discuss. But, not in this thread.
Let us do this stunned. We both hear from the Lord. I am assured of that.
Just a suggestion, but maybe you should proof read before you post....you say a lot of things that means certain things to people, then get upset when they are NOT interpreted as you intended.....
In this post you say Christ helping you in all your needs is sanctification or christian growth......This is not true...perosnal non-saving faith helps Christ help your needs....you used the term sanctification very wrong here....progressive sanctification is the process to become holy....I am not alone in seeing this with you....and in love bro...you need to grow....
I think you play this infantile game to silence people and if you do...shame on you....if you do not then take a look at some fo your replies...in love and honesty bro...you come across as a kid at times....
In this post you say Christ helping you in all your needs is sanctification or christian growth......This is not true...perosnal non-saving faith helps Christ help your needs....you used the term sanctification very wrong here....progressive sanctification is the process to become holy....I am not alone in seeing this with you....and in love bro...you need to grow....
I think you play this infantile game to silence people and if you do...shame on you....if you do not then take a look at some fo your replies...in love and honesty bro...you come across as a kid at times....
Ah, yes, I see the misunderstanding there/ I thought you were meaning you thought I was giving a tirade to you. Probably because I caused another brother to feel that way earlier.
Your last sentence gives me great hope that the two of you will work it out.
So...I agree that I can shut up and let you both do it.
Your last sentence gives me great hope that the two of you will work it out.
So...I agree that I can shut up and let you both do it.
E
Here we go, people adding words to my posts again,
when I read stuff like this, all I can think of is one must be perfect, that no one can ever get to heaven, that unl sis we are 100% perfect in all areas of our lives we are licentiousness us and could. It be saved,
i know meggido does not believe this, but how can you read this and not think this is what he is saying? It is called law. These are the things you must do, if not, you lack faith in any area of your life, and are doomed for an eternity in hell
1. When we are saved we are babes in Christ, god does not cope to us to be perfect, he knows we have to grow, he knows he has to work on our faith to grow us, he knows he will have to chasten us when we get out of line,
2. Even when we are spiritual adolescents, he knows we still are in a point of our growth where we are trying to find our way, and will. It be perfect, and he knows he has to treat s different in this state, because things which worked as babes do not work here. he knows he has to continue to grow our faith
3. Even as spiritual adults and elders, amazingly, he still tells us to go out not alone, but in pairs, because he still knows we can let self get in the way, and need people,to keep us from drifting into a false concept.
non of these things are licentious, they are reality, if God expected us to be perfect, or have faith I. Every area Immediately after salvation, God must be disappointed. I am surprised he has allowed us to go on as long as he did, there is no hope for any of us,
If people have porn issues, god tells us how to chasten or discipline them, and what to do if they do not listen
what he tells us not to do is judge the, let us who have no sin cast the first stone, we are not innocent, we have our own sin issues which must be dealt with,
i finish with this,
if people would just ask questions, and not just assume, these things, again, it would be so much peaceful and we would not have these issues.
when I read stuff like this, all I can think of is one must be perfect, that no one can ever get to heaven, that unl sis we are 100% perfect in all areas of our lives we are licentiousness us and could. It be saved,
i know meggido does not believe this, but how can you read this and not think this is what he is saying? It is called law. These are the things you must do, if not, you lack faith in any area of your life, and are doomed for an eternity in hell
1. When we are saved we are babes in Christ, god does not cope to us to be perfect, he knows we have to grow, he knows he has to work on our faith to grow us, he knows he will have to chasten us when we get out of line,
2. Even when we are spiritual adolescents, he knows we still are in a point of our growth where we are trying to find our way, and will. It be perfect, and he knows he has to treat s different in this state, because things which worked as babes do not work here. he knows he has to continue to grow our faith
3. Even as spiritual adults and elders, amazingly, he still tells us to go out not alone, but in pairs, because he still knows we can let self get in the way, and need people,to keep us from drifting into a false concept.
non of these things are licentious, they are reality, if God expected us to be perfect, or have faith I. Every area Immediately after salvation, God must be disappointed. I am surprised he has allowed us to go on as long as he did, there is no hope for any of us,
If people have porn issues, god tells us how to chasten or discipline them, and what to do if they do not listen
what he tells us not to do is judge the, let us who have no sin cast the first stone, we are not innocent, we have our own sin issues which must be dealt with,
i finish with this,
if people would just ask questions, and not just assume, these things, again, it would be so much peaceful and we would not have these issues.