What's your point? Should I be defensive here?
Brace for impact! Brace for impact!What is the strong delusion that would cause people to believe a lie?
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What's your point? Should I be defensive here?
Brace for impact! Brace for impact!
I personally do not believe God causes evil. However, from a Calvinistic perspective... God causes everything. And I happen to take those words seriously and what you read is the results.
Ok Well if Calvanism is that bad,(I know nothing about it) why are you even discussing it? Turn away from it and concentrate on the truth. Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
Falsely believing secondary issues like the gifts, the Sabbath, tithing is one thing. But primary doctrines like salvation, the Way to heaven, the deity of Christ ise a total other depth of wrong.
You judge a tree by its fruit. To deny Jesus as the only way, truth and life is condemnable. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. He's revealing his lack of biblical faith.
After I saw people talking about Joel in here, I started watching some Youtube videos.
I posted about it here, and it kind of set someone off, talking about how it's deception to look to other people, etc, etc.
Guess what Calvinist don't believe that either! Please read about it before you type your embarrassing your self .
or is it that research thing that you refuse to do getting in the way .
Blessings
Bill
Wouldn't it be ironic if the strong delusion God sent was the Bible?
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2 Thess 2:10-13
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Romans 3:4
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
2 Thess 2:10-13
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. Romans 3:4
The Lord told me last night what this strong delusion is. The new Quran that get people on board is it will be the New Testament Bible renamed the Quran.
Whoever reads this please spread all over the internet forums, youtube etc. Take credit if you want but spread over the whole earth,and help save God's children !!!!!!!
Whoever reads this please spread all over the internet forums, youtube etc. Take credit if you want but spread over the whole earth,and help save God's children !!!!!!!
so many weird hypothesis in this thread!
i read that 'strong delusion' is:
etc
i read that 'strong delusion' is:
- grace
- works
- literally any theological teaching that is popular, because it is popular
- the antichrist claiming to be God
- dinosaurs
- that the earth is a planet
- lasciviousness
- accepting speaking in tongues
- rejecting tongue-speaking
- unitarian universalist murder-squads
- the Bible itself
- the Quran
- the Bible with "the Bible" scratched out on the cover and "the Quran" written next to it
- holograms
etc
It is interesting you mention this, about the political correctness. To make a long story short, political correctness is communism, regulated speech.
The only conclusion I can come to, that makes any kind of sense to me, is that those who believe a lie have a mindset that has been hardwired to believe a lie. Look at a lot of these new age teachings today, and gender neutral concepts we are seeing today, so many peoples brains are hardwired into believing such nonsense, that you cannot even reason with people such as these.
Have a google of Britain's first gender fluid family, you will see what I am getting at.
Now look at the times we live in today. Are we seeing so many people today, having a mindset that has been hardwired into believing new age nonsense? But at same time are unable to accept sound and logical teachings?
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2Th 2:9
I think the key is found in the word wonders as to the source.
The strong delusion to believe the lie would be in respect to those who add to the scriptures coming from another source of faith other than... as it is written called a “lying wonder”. With wonder the faith principle meaning the unseen, made know by what it seen, a sign.
In that way a clear distinction between a sign and lying wonder must be made.Its an evil generation the generation of Adam that does seek after signs used as wonders in order to bring belief, faith
The focus is on the wonder that which bring faith and not so much the sign. Signs are for observing while wonders draw to the unseen.
Today seeing what we had in part up until the last book was written giving us the perfect as in compete. It would be any one who says they have received a vision or a new revelation. That would make them a liar. The possibility of God bring any new revelation is sealed up till the end .
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, "if it were possible", they shall deceive the very elect. Mat 24:23
The elect that heed the warning will have no need to be sent a strong delusion .They try the spirits by that which God has revealed . Not looking for another source of faith because the unbelievers need more than God had intended to give us making it impossible for those who heed the warning to be deceived.. Again by assuming the Lord said this or that as a new revelation knowing the Lord has not spoken .
1Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the "word of men", but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
That which does effectually works in the believer to both will and do his good pleasure. The work of Christ's faith
2Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
In the verse above we can see how how the father of lies the god of this world blinds the mind by adding to the perfect tradition of God those of men. Now that we have the whole and dare not add to it the traditions of men and assuming together they are all one source of faith, called a wonder
The Catholic perform it boldly with what they are required to call private revelations to give the illusion God is still adding to his source of faith the scriptures. Making that which they do add a private source of faith while some others denominations more subtle.
They would be sent a strong delusion so that they can continue to add there private revelations (private interpretation as if it all all one interpretation coming from heaven .
Bottom line the scriptures of themselves (all things written in the law and the prophets (soal scriptura) are not a source of faith those who believe God is still bring new revelations . The scripture, God's perfect law to them cannot perform what it declares, a source of eternal life giving us simply ones His understanding . Its authority has been removed in exchange for the tradition of the fathers making the word of God, as the one source of Christian faith without effect,
The response is in the quote. If you read, it is because people loved evil that the spirit of delusion
is spread over the earth so that those who loved (past tense) evil would believe lies.
I live in Spain, not biggy, but I see and hear people believing lies in all western countries. It must be so elsewhere such is in the far east because there are no protests coming from other quarters.
All is occurring in its time. Jesus Christ is in charge, amen..
is spread over the earth so that those who loved (past tense) evil would believe lies.
I live in Spain, not biggy, but I see and hear people believing lies in all western countries. It must be so elsewhere such is in the far east because there are no protests coming from other quarters.
All is occurring in its time. Jesus Christ is in charge, amen..
To answer partly, if a person is not humble, sober and sometimes chooses under compulsion or impulse, God will give and allow the same and of course it's very complicated when thinking about each individual's situation. As long as they stay in that condition, they won't come to the knowledge of the truth.
This is strong delusion
What do we make of the fantastic claim by Putnam and Horn that the Vatican is embracing demons camouflaged as extraterrestrials as future saviors of the Church and humanity? Much of it is based on the skewed writings of UFO authors who ignore the extensive literature revealing the benign activities and intentions of many extraterrestrials visitors – far removed from the abduction phenomenon.
http://exopolitics.org/will-vatican-declaration-of-an-alien-savior-spark-a-religious-war/
What do we make of the fantastic claim by Putnam and Horn that the Vatican is embracing demons camouflaged as extraterrestrials as future saviors of the Church and humanity? Much of it is based on the skewed writings of UFO authors who ignore the extensive literature revealing the benign activities and intentions of many extraterrestrials visitors – far removed from the abduction phenomenon.
http://exopolitics.org/will-vatican-declaration-of-an-alien-savior-spark-a-religious-war/
