"Trumpets," the first day of the 7th month, a Sabbath

[unobtrusive]

Could the 9 days of trumpets relate to the 9 entities of the "fruit of the spirit?" If so, the first day would represent "love." What do you think?

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23)

Trumpets is during the end of the "fall harvest."

 

[J7]

Could well do.

Tell us more about Trumpets UO

 

[Willie-T]

I think that is a lot like asking if my father was named for me.

 

[J7]

The T is for Trumpet? I have heard of Trump, and Trumper before

 

[Yonah]

Trumpets also announces the day of atonement, the trumpet sounds 10 days before atonement, then 5 days after atonement the feast of booths, or Succoth, the 7 th month was also the month our Savior was born during, yom teruah ha shofar is the day of trumpets,
As with all the feasts it has importance in both prophecy in the revelation as well the cycles the Almighty established from the start, our Savior fulfilled each feast both in substance and purpose, when we study the beginning it helps us to better grasp the meaning of prophecies concerning the future. the feasts are found in Lev. 23 , from the first (Passover) to the last (tabernacles) each is both prophetic and historic in nature and intent, the study of these feast times along with prophecy will not only bring greater understanding, but will help decipher the time line of the prophecies at least to a certain extent.

 

[unobtrusive]

Could well do.

Tell us more about Trumpets UO

I haven't studied it a whole lot, but it pre-empts atonement beginning on the 10th day, and Tabernacles beginning on the 15th day. I relate this time of the year to the second advent of Christ Jesus, not to say it's going to be this month however.

Trumpets are blown for 2 reasons that I have studied so far. One is for a warning, and the other is for a gathering.

"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me." (Ezekiel 3:17)

Ezekiel 33:4-5
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

Numbers 10:1-7
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, [SUP]
2 [/SUP]Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]When ye blow an alarm, then the camps that lie on the east parts shall go forward.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]When ye blow an alarm the second time, then the camps that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they shall blow an alarm for their journeys.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But when the congregation is to be gathered together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm.

 

[MarcR]

][/COLOR]I haven't studied it a whole lot, but it pre-empts atonement beginning on the 10th day, and Tabernacles beginning on the 15th day. I relate this time of the year to the second advent of Christ Jesus, not to say it's going to be this month however.

Trumpets are blown for 2 reasons that I have studied so far. One is for a warning, and the other is for a gathering.

"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me." (Ezekiel 3:17)

Ezekiel 33:4-5
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

Numbers 10:1-7
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, [SUP]
2 [/SUP]Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]When ye blow an alarm, then the camps that lie on the east parts shall go forward.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]When ye blow an alarm the second time, then the camps that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they shall blow an alarm for their journeys.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But when the congregation is to be gathered together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm.

]I haven't studied it a whole lot, but it pre-empts atonement beginning on the 10th day, and Tabernacles beginning on the 15th day.

What are you trying to say here?

Lev 23:24-39
24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
25 Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
26 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
28 And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the Lord your God.
29 For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
30 And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
31 Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
33 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the Lord.
35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
37 These are the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
38 Beside the sabbaths of the Lord, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the Lord.
39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the Lord seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.
KJV

Paul's writings make it clear that you are at liberty not to observe the appointed times; but we are NOT at liberty to pre-empt God's Word.

 

[unobtrusive]

What are you trying to say here?

I don't precisely understand your question to me. Then you quote Lev 23:24-39. I have read that, but thanks anyway.

 

[MarcR]

I don't precisely understand your question to me. Then you quote Lev 23:24-39. I have read that, but thanks anyway.

I was questioning your statement highlighted in red.

I cited verses from Lev 23 to show why I had a problem with the highlighted statement

 

[Blain]

Hmm... actually that would be pretty interesting wouldn't it? perhaps it is plausible

 

[Mem]

Beginning on Rosh Chodesh Elul, it is customary to sound the shofar every day before Rosh Hashana to help us awaken to the coming High Holidays.

First, tekiah - a long single blast signifying the King's coronation, then
shevarim- a series of three short, wail-like blasts signifying repentance, followed by
teruah- several short blast of alarm to awaken the soul, and finishing with
tekiah hagadol- a long single blast

[video]http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Blessings/Blessing_Cards/shof2.mp3[/video]

 

[unobtrusive]

I was questioning your statement highlighted in red.

I cited verses from Lev 23 to show why I had a problem with the highlighted statement

referring to this post

I haven't studied the 9 days of trumpets that much. I was hoping somebody could give more "SPIRTUAL" insight than I have about those specific 9 days. Leviticus 23 doesn't do that.

 

[unobtrusive]

Beginning on Rosh Chodesh Elul, it is customary to sound the shofar every day before Rosh Hashana to help us awaken to the coming High Holidays.

First, tekiah - a long single blast signifying the King's coronation, then
shevarim- a series of three short, wail-like blasts signifying repentance, followed by
teruah- several short blast of alarm to awaken the soul, and finishing with
tekiah hagadol- a long single blast

[video]http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Blessings/Blessing_Cards/shof2.mp3[/video]

WOW! That's nice edification.
1. the King's coronation
2. repentance
3. the awakening of the soul

That relates to the way of salvation. Is that all on the first day or every day for 9 days?

 

[Locutus]

I always eat crumpets on the sabbath...

 

[Mem]

WOW! That's nice edification.
1. the King's coronation
2. repentance
3. the awakening of the soul

That relates to the way of salvation. Is that all on the first day or every day for 9 days?

These are sounded daily during the entire month of Elul (except on the sabbath) from the new moon (which heralds every new month) until the new moon of Tishri. Tishri 1 is Rosh Hashana (the head of the year), a new year (Jews observe 2 'new years', the other called head of the months).

Rosh Hashana is the first of the "10 Days of Awe" the shofar is sounded 100 times this day also known as the Feast of trumpets.

The first 10 days of Tishri is considered the "10 Days of Repentance", a 'grace period' extended to allow for repentance that culminate at Yom Kippur (a day like Purim), also known as the Day of Atonement, where all names are sealed in one of two books, either the Book of Life or the Book of Death.

Shofars (ram's horns) are sounded up until this day where, then, silver trumpets are sounded.

There is so much to be mined from all this rich history, as this all leads to the Feast of Tabernacles.

 

[MarcR]

referring to this post

I haven't studied the 9 days of trumpets that much. I was hoping somebody could give more "SPIRTUAL" insight than I have about those specific 9 days. Leviticus 23 doesn't do that.

It was your assertion that the 10th (Atonement) and 15th Sukkot are pre-empted that troubles me.

I wasn't trying to answer your question! I was asking you to clarify what you meant by pre-empted.

 

[shrume]

Could the 9 days of trumpets relate to the 9 entities of the "fruit of the spirit?" If so, the first day would represent "love." What do you think?

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23)

Trumpets is during the end of the "fall harvest."

I don't think so. That listing in Gal 5 is not a complete list of the fruit of the spirit. For example, humility and patience can certainly be considered fruit of the spirit, but they are not in that list. Gal 5:22-23 are listed using the figure of speech asyndeton (no "ands"), signifying that while they are examples of fruit of the spirit, the point is that "against such there is no law".

IMO... take it for what it's worth

 

[Mem]

In summary, the books are opened on the first day of Tishri which is considered a holy day, Rosh Hashana, and sealed on Yom Kippurim. There is a special sabbath, Tzom Gedaliah, that falls within these 10 Days of Repentance, but it is a fast (in remembrance of tragedy) rather than feast. Overall, these days are more focused upon self examination until that day like Purim (the Feast of Esther). Haman did have 10 sons, though.

 

[Mem]

In summary, the books are opened on the first day of Tishri which is considered a holy day, Rosh Hashana, and sealed on Yom Kippurim. There is a special sabbath, Tzom Gedaliah, that falls within these 10 Days of Repentance, but it is a fast (in remembrance of tragedy) rather than feast. Overall, these days are more focused upon self examination until that day like Purim (the Feast of Esther). Haman did have 10 sons, though.

...So, I should place a disclaimer on my comments about Jewish Holidays and traditions... as it is only second-hand knowledge.

For instance, I couldn't shake that something seemed off to me and so I double checked the special sabbath, and see I that erroneously referred to as special sabbath, Tzom Gedaliah, is but a minor fast day... and the special shabbatot is Shabbat Shuva (Shabbat of Returning), which falls Sept 23rd this year.



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[unobtrusive]

It was your assertion that the 10th (Atonement) and 15th Sukkot are pre-empted that troubles me.

I wasn't trying to answer your question! I was asking you to clarify what you meant by pre-empted.

"Pre-empt...Acquire or appropriate (something) in advance, such as calling people to an event. Synonym "anticipate" as trumpets can be a sound for gathering for the following events as defined in the New Testament as... "at the last trump," related to a gathering/harvest. Maybe I should have just used the phrase... "comes before."