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come to think of it why are some of you so intent on admission of sin from peter,as I recall we only "confess" our sins to Jesus,so it is getting rather childish,he clearly sees this as a snare so you might as well leave the subject be of asking for sin admission from him.
I have admitted I have sinned, are people asking for date, time, location and who was involved.

The truth is people want a commitment I will sin in the future,
But that would be sinful to state and is not true. By Gods grace I will not sin,
but He alone knows.
 

gb9

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I think this demonstrates how immoral and a total lack of care you guys have.
Gb9 was calling turning up late for something a sin.

Do you understand how stupid this kind of morality is.
It is little wonder how confused the theology is where missed appointments are put alongside
murder, worthy of going to hell.

Intentionally lying about commitments and not taking care is sinful behaviour.
Our focus needs to be on service and care. The Lord will convict as needed, but often
excuses will abound when things come up that mean actual action is needed.

God bless you all
in my post # 36306, on page #1816, I was using the analogy of being late to ( attempt ) to explain to peter about missing the mark.

my exact quote- in theory, if being late was a sin, then no matter the reason, you sinned by being late.

note the words "in theory"," if" .

you have to read the whole thing peter. you know, like you should be doing the Bible.

you can't just chop stuff into pieces and then make the pieces say what you want them to. you do this, and you really should stop.
 
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The more you respond like this Peter the deeper you dig the hole in my opinion.
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Good to know, because I desire to please God, if I can help you, amen.

Objectives show the heart. I suspect many peoples objectives are just uncommitted humour. :cool:
 

Locutus

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I have admitted I have sinned, are people asking for date, time, location and who was involved.

The truth is people want a commitment I will sin in the future,
But that would be sinful to state and is not true. By Gods grace I will not sin,
but He alone knows.
So you haven't sinned since the last time you sinned?

Not Roman Catholic are you?
 

Locutus

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Good to know, because I desire to please God, if I can help you, amen.
I don't think you can help me at all Peter - unless being honest and straightforward is your intent in regards to my questions.
 
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I have admitted I have sinned
No, you haven't, and you're not even admitting it now.

are people asking for date, time, location and who was involved.

The truth is people want a commitment I will sin in the future,
But that would be sinful to state and is not true. By Gods grace I will not sin,
but He alone knows.
Here's the thing: When you fabricate things that people say, believe, teach, that's called bearing false witness, and this is what you do on here.

You also imply others are lost, but of course, not you.

You claim others live in sin willfully, and want to be covered with "Jesus Spray" (the imputed righteousness of Christ you blaspheme in those exact words) so they can live in sin and have an excuse to live in sin.

All of these are sinful things that you've committed here against other brothers and sisters. You've been called on it numerous times and continue to do so, emboldened because you've not paid any wages for it as of yet.
 
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in my post # 36306, on page #1816, I was using the analogy of being late to ( attempt ) to explain to peter about missing the mark.

my exact quote- in theory, if being late was a sin, then no matter the reason, you sinned by being late.

note the words in theory, if.

you have to read the whole thing peter. you know, like you should be doing the Bible.

you can't just chop stuff into pieces and then make the pieces say what you want them to. you do this, and you really should stop.
gb9 - the rebuking teacher does not become you. Not sure you know what you mean, but I get the intent.
God bless you. If I had a legalistic mind I would have gone nuts years ago. Christ looks at the heart and
blesses. He has a passion for love and walking in it. So I suggest, humbly do this, I love you, wherever
you maybe.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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:eek:
Good to know, because I desire to please God, if I can help you, amen.

Objectives show the heart. I suspect many peoples objectives are just uncommitted humour. :cool:
peter

on a side note


i am actually not 100% sure where you stand on everything

want to start fresh?


i see a dispute and i have a little idea what its about

i agree that God is capable of overcoming sin in us

and to admit to choosing sin ahead of time

isnt a good way to look at it
 
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No, you haven't, and you're not even admitting it now.



Here's the thing: When you fabricate things that people say, believe, teach, that's called bearing false witness, and this is what you do on here.

You also imply others are lost, but of course, not you.

You claim others live in sin willfully, and want to be covered with "Jesus Spray" (the imputed righteousness of Christ you blaspheme in those exact words) so they can live in sin and have an excuse to live in sin.

All of these are sinful things that you've committed here against other brothers and sisters. You've been called on it numerous times and continue to do so, emboldened because you've not paid any wages for it as of yet.
p4t Let me think of the sins I know about - stealing, lying, dishonouring my parents, adulterous thoughts,
covertousness, pride, selfish ambition, breaking commitments, inappropriate rage, laziness, irresponsibility.

I have done these things and more. That is confessing sin. I have no intention of doing this in the future,
but only by grace will this be possible.

Bearing false witness is a joke. I try to be exact, to retell the confessed positions people hold.
I am then told I am lying when I repeat what they are saying. It happens so many times by the
same characters, it just shows me their delusion.

I even was told someone had not typed what they had typed and even quoted it.
That is literal insanity, but it shows you how far this circus will go.

It must mean too much for some, because their faith is not in Christ but the group they
come from. Beware this is dangerous territory, it will change you, for good or ill, you
choose. Walk with Christ, for good, deny His word, ill. God bless you.
 
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peter

on a side note


i am actually not 100% sure where you stand on everything

want to start fresh?


i see a dispute and i have a little idea what its about

i agree that God is capable of overcoming sin in us

and to admit to choosing sin ahead of time

isnt a good way to look at it
Amen. My friend how we express our faith matters less than walking with Christ.
So let us walk with Him. God bless you.
 

Locutus

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It must mean too much for some, because their faith is not in Christ but the group they
come from.
How is their faith not in Christ - I don't see any atheists in the thread. This is a another dig in the hole. Totally unsubstantiated and uncalled for.

This kind of response is reminiscent of someone squirming on the hot seat.
 
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UnderGrace

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I thought this was a discussion board not a public confessional :confused:

PeterJens, I really do not understand your theology, but I do not think you should subject yourself to this humiliation
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Amen. My friend how we express our faith matters less than walking with Christ.
So let us walk with Him. God bless you.
do you think that its possible to be born again


after God gives someone a new heart and spirit

to then be turned away on judgement day?


and for Him to say " i never knew you"
 
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What you should have done instead of generalizing sins is confessed to the ones you've committed on here and have offended many persons with, and apologize.

And, I don't buy your feigned posts as of late, you're covering yourself to make a good show:

"Having security in Jesus is an idol"

"The imputed righteousness of Christ is a neat little trick that does not work."

"The cross (of Christ) is not enough"

You should repent of all the above quotes as well. You've attempted numerous times to present yourself as the spiritual big man, accusing others of living in sin, of being lost while claiming all of your own good, Luke 18:11-12 like. Since you've made the claim on yourself, live up to it: confess, apologize, recant, repent.
 
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Can it be lost?
Must it be maintained through works?
Does sin cause one to lose it?
Is it eternal?
Is it based entirely on faith?
dc - You teach me futility. :). There is one truth Jesus, walk with Him and you will find out.

You want to ask to just cause a dispute, because the answer to this defines for you faith.
And that is just madness. God bless you. May you rise to Christ and walk in His love
to the praise of His glorious name.

I doubt you know the reality because love does not drive you, just this mission, which was
doomed from the beginning. Maybe you need healing and a real life.....
 

Locutus

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I don't think many on this forum set out in the morning thinking I'm going to sin today - the complexities of life lead to us failing at times, maybe not everyday - that's the point I'm trying to get at here.
 
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Okay have it your way, who said in the bible that Pharisee's were full of dead men's bone's, yes it was Jesus. Using an object to define someone's behavior is not name calling nor pointless.
I am sorry you feel the way you do.
And?
I was talking about here and now,besides Jesus had "good reason" where as you don't,for your name calling,calling people "spoons" thereby being "pointless".
nice try though.
 

Locutus

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I thought this was a discussion board not a public confessional :confused:

PeterJens, I really do not understand your theology, but I do not think you should subject yourself to this humiliation
Catholic forums two tabs across on your web browser..:p