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Happy Happy Sabbath to you all my friends (my time now).

Just dropping by to wish you all much love, joy and peace in the holy Ghost. Who are we without his love? God is love and they that dwell in God dwell in love because he fist loved us. Who am I that he should love me? Then God showed his love for us in that while we were yet sinners he died for us. My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear: because fear hath torment. He that fears is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us. If a man say, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar.

By this shall all men know that ye are his disciples, if we have love one to another. Jesus says; He that has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loves another hath fulfilled the law. For this, we will not commit adultery, we wil not kill, we will not steal, we will not bear false witness, or covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Love your neighbor as thyself. Love works no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not Love, I am nothing and though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing. Love suffers long, and is kind; love envies not; love vaunts not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeks not its own, is not easily provoked, thinks no evil;
Rejoices not in sin, but rejoices in the truth; Bares all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. Now abides faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Those that perish will not enter the Kingdom because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Happy Sabbath all.

In Christ Always!

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JaumeJ

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A good and peace-filled Sabbath to all.
 

loveme1

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All thanks and Glory to Our Gracious Heavenly Father and His Son our Lord and Saviour.
 

gotime

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There is no command of God to keep Sunday or any other day as the Sabbath. of those who teach it and give respect to the early church father over the clear word of God.

When the Pharisees came to Jesus to trap him they only met with their own error as it is written:

Mat 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
Mat 15:5 But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
Mat 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

They made of no effect the clear commandment of God in order to keep their man made traditions handed down of their fathers but not of the Father in heaven. They gave heavy yokes that God himself had never laid on man.

Jesus said of them:

Mat 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
Mat 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Notice that they worship God in vain when they teach doctrines of men over the clear commandments of God.

So in this generation men teach doctrines of men instead of the clear commands of God.

They twist the clear word to make it mean something it never meant. Even taking the words of Jesus and twisting them to mean something they never meant. Just as the pharisees did when they witnessed against Jesus saying:

Mat 26:61 And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.

of them it is written:

2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

and again:

Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

People get offended when someone says that they should keep the commandments of God particularly the Sabbath which comes at creation a holy work of God but you people make the commandment void by your traditions received by your fathers. Making what God has made holy common. you say Christ is your rest but then deny his work in making the Sabbath day holy.





Mat 15:12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?

Mat 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

For of David it is written:

Psa 119:99 I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation.
Psa 119:100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

be wise then and put away foolishness.

Pro 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

There is not one single command to change the Sabbath in the whole scripture and they only use obscure passages to try and make void the commandments of God.

As it is written:

Mat 16:6 Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Mat 16:12 Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Many accuse the pharisees of many things but Jesus biggest problem with them was that they taught traditions over the word of God.





Be not deceived with their twisting and traditions.
 
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I slept very well my dear all thanks to GOD.
Though my dream was quite telling...
Sometimes I have the dreams that tell. They are different from the other dreams as I can always remember them.. For me there is two kinds. The first are very unsettling. The second are comforting and full of love. Both are only a blessing to me urging me to get ready and to help others for the time is short.
 

JaumeJ

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No words, in some dreams, yet understanding is implicit. Sometimes there is the wonderful feeling of being immersed in the Love of Yahweh. God-s ways are so wonderful and mysterious.

This is a wonderful day made by our Father........Blessed be Jesus Christ, amen.
 

JaumeJ

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Teaching comes by way of the Holy Spirit in dreams. It is not always fire and brimstone you know?
 

JohnTalmid

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Be restored in Messiah we have heard. To many people who reject the Sabbath and festivals of YHWH aka the festivals of Messiah Yahshua this sounds correct at first. This however is only part of the promise. We have been brought to believe in vanity, fake holiness, and false miracles. Our God is the God of ancient times and this time. He saw the father of lies fall from Heaven because there was no place found for him anymore. So also must the heart of the true believer in the Messiah. Making idols and storing them up in our hearts and minds while teaching vain tradition of men as doctrine to our children is evil in the eyes of the Father. Why did YHWH find it necessary to write, "He does not become weak or crushed, until He has established right-ruling in the earth. And the coastlands wait for His Torah, (Law, Instruction)"
He has kept silent from of old, he has been still and held himself back. Like a woman in labor He cry's out, He pants and gasps at once.

We are being lead by blind men, and teaching of demons. Why has it delighted YHWH, for the sake of His righteousness, to make the Torah great and esteemed? He has called us to remember the Sabbath day and that we are sanctified by faith through hearing the word and doing it. Restore the ancient path and be healed. Cast away from you your idols, that don't have life in them or say anything. I speak this way not to destroy you because it is written, the slaughtering of the wrong ones is an abomination to YHWH, But the prayer of the straight is His delight."

Now I write this so we may all return, remember, and obey for righteousness sake. May the knowledge of the truth and His Kingdom fill your heart, minds, and actions through faith.
 

loveme1

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Be restored in Messiah we have heard. To many people who reject the Sabbath and festivals of YHWH aka the festivals of Messiah Yahshua this sounds correct at first. This however is only part of the promise. We have been brought to believe in vanity, fake holiness, and false miracles. Our God is the God of ancient times and this time. He saw the father of lies fall from Heaven because there was no place found for him anymore. So also must the heart of the true believer in the Messiah. Making idols and storing them up in our hearts and minds while teaching vain tradition of men as doctrine to our children is evil in the eyes of the Father. Why did YHWH find it necessary to write, "He does not become weak or crushed, until He has established right-ruling in the earth. And the coastlands wait for His Torah, (Law, Instruction)"
He has kept silent from of old, he has been still and held himself back. Like a woman in labor He cry's out, He pants and gasps at once.

We are being lead by blind men, and teaching of demons. Why has it delighted YHWH, for the sake of His righteousness, to make the Torah great and esteemed? He has called us to remember the Sabbath day and that we are sanctified by faith through hearing the word and doing it. Restore the ancient path and be healed. Cast away from you your idols, that don't have life in them or say anything. I speak this way not to destroy you because it is written, the slaughtering of the wrong ones is an abomination to YHWH, But the prayer of the straight is His delight."

Now I write this so we may all return, remember, and obey for righteousness sake. May the knowledge of the truth and His Kingdom fill your heart, minds, and actions through faith.
John there is a New Covenant with GOD through Faith in His Son's Testament. Faith that worketh by love. Be under Grace at liberty and not under the law of works.

Everything came to pass to bring us the New Covenant with GOD and the Just shall live by Faith.

Yes the 10 Commandments are to Kept but only by Faith that worketh by love... and the Messiah gives us instruction.. it is lawful to do good and Sabbath was made for man not the other way.. and He is Lord of Sabbath so we adhere to His Teachings for He is GOD's only begotten Son.
 

JohnTalmid

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John there is a New Covenant with GOD through Faith in His Son's Testament. Faith that worketh by love. Be under Grace at liberty and not under the law of works.

Everything came to pass to bring us the New Covenant with GOD and the Just shall live by Faith.

Yes the 10 Commandments are to Kept but only by Faith that worketh by love... and the Messiah gives us instruction.. it is lawful to do good and Sabbath was made for man not the other way.. and He is Lord of Sabbath so we adhere to His Teachings for He is GOD's only begotten Son.
Respectfully where did I say to be under the law, or that we are not under the head being Messiah? Sanctification is of the law and the perfect, Holy, and good law of God. Sounds like you are fighting against the instructions of Messiah to follow tradition of men. Their are many commands and teaching they are no longer any benefit to the believer who hungers for righteousness is not only error but maybe even bordering rebellion against God. It is true that if you are in Messiah there is no condemnation however if you claim to know the Son and know not the things of the Father you are not truly trusting in Messiah. To me that perfect law of God is not burdensome because it is the instructor who brings light to the path and allows to see the Kingdom even though it is only dimly seen. Whether to keep the law or not doesn't put you under the law of sin and death. Sin has put us all under this law from birth. Being born again is finding the perfect word of Elohim who came as a man so we could understand what being called to righteousness looks like. By faith make the ancient path easy through the way of love. Love of the Father with all your Heart, Mind, and strength. Do the commandment not for your faith, faith is not of the law. Abraham believed and kept the law as love of God kept him from falling from the path. He had nothing to boast because even he was given the gift of righteousness which agrees with the same order for salvation today. We are not righteous in ourselves. We are in need of the grace of Messiah who gives abundance of grace to all who seek out the Father and His way which is sanctification through the word which Messiah provides according to every word that precedes from the Father.
 

JaumeJ

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Amen, and thank you for the clarity of your message. You put into words what I have not been able to do. Praise our Father now and foreer, amen.

Respectfully where did I say to be under the law, or that we are not under the head being Messiah? Sanctification is of the law and the perfect, Holy, and good law of God. Sounds like you are fighting against the instructions of Messiah to follow tradition of men. Their are many commands and teaching they are no longer any benefit to the believer who hungers for righteousness is not only error but maybe even bordering rebellion against God. It is true that if you are in Messiah there is no condemnation however if you claim to know the Son and know not the things of the Father you are not truly trusting in Messiah. To me that perfect law of God is not burdensome because it is the instructor who brings light to the path and allows to see the Kingdom even though it is only dimly seen. Whether to keep the law or not doesn't put you under the law of sin and death. Sin has put us all under this law from birth. Being born again is finding the perfect word of Elohim who came as a man so we could understand what being called to righteousness looks like. By faith make the ancient path easy through the way of love. Love of the Father with all your Heart, Mind, and strength. Do the commandment not for your faith, faith is not of the law. Abraham believed and kept the law as love of God kept him from falling from the path. He had nothing to boast because even he was given the gift of righteousness which agrees with the same order for salvation today. We are not righteous in ourselves. We are in need of the grace of Messiah who gives abundance of grace to all who seek out the Father and His way which is sanctification through the word which Messiah provides according to every word that precedes from the Father.
 

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Respectfully where did I say to be under the law, or that we are not under the head being Messiah? Sanctification is of the law and the perfect, Holy, and good law of God. Sounds like you are fighting against the instructions of Messiah to follow tradition of men. Their are many commands and teaching they are no longer any benefit to the believer who hungers for righteousness is not only error but maybe even bordering rebellion against God. It is true that if you are in Messiah there is no condemnation however if you claim to know the Son and know not the things of the Father you are not truly trusting in Messiah. To me that perfect law of God is not burdensome because it is the instructor who brings light to the path and allows to see the Kingdom even though it is only dimly seen. Whether to keep the law or not doesn't put you under the law of sin and death. Sin has put us all under this law from birth. Being born again is finding the perfect word of Elohim who came as a man so we could understand what being called to righteousness looks like. By faith make the ancient path easy through the way of love. Love of the Father with all your Heart, Mind, and strength. Do the commandment not for your faith, faith is not of the law. Abraham believed and kept the law as love of God kept him from falling from the path. He had nothing to boast because even he was given the gift of righteousness which agrees with the same order for salvation today. We are not righteous in ourselves. We are in need of the grace of Messiah who gives abundance of grace to all who seek out the Father and His way which is sanctification through the word which Messiah provides according to every word that precedes from the Father.
Are you not the man that believes circumcision is still important?

and e renewal of the Covenant rather than new?
 

JohnTalmid

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Are you not the man that believes circumcision is still important?

and e renewal of the Covenant rather than new?
If you mean circumcision of the heart, and renewal as in yes the renewed covenant to the time of creation. Not like that covenant made with the house of Israel which they did not keep as a reminder as how not to fall into the same form of disobedience as they did. Though I find your question quite contentious have I not done my best to answer? Much more importantly than what I believe is what does the word of God say...
 

loveme1

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If you mean circumcision of the heart, and renewal as in yes the renewed covenant to the time of creation. Not like that covenant made with the house of Israel which they did not keep as a reminder as how not to fall into the same form of disobedience as they did. Though I find your question quite contentious have I not done my best to answer? Much more importantly than what I believe is what does the word of God say...
I mean outward circumcision.. was it not you who said this was still important? I may be confusing you with another and wanted to clarify.. as for contentious.. there is no malice just trying to establish.. for you said you can not seperate the 10 Commandments from the Law of Moses I believe? Yet if it is not you then I have you mixed with another.

The Word of GOD states that outward circumcision profits nothing... and that Christ will Judge us by the Law of Liberty which is His Royal Law which is to Love GOD with all our being and each other as thyself.. the bar is raised through the Law of Faith.. for it is of love.
 

JohnTalmid

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I mean outward circumcision.. was it not you who said this was still important? I may be confusing you with another and wanted to clarify.. as for contentious.. there is no malice just trying to establish.. for you said you can not seperate the 10 Commandments from the Law of Moses I believe? Yet if it is not you then I have you mixed with another.

The Word of GOD states that outward circumcision profits nothing... and that Christ will Judge us by the Law of Liberty which is His Royal Law which is to Love GOD with all our being and each other as thyself.. the bar is raised through the Law of Faith.. for it is of love.
No wasn't me. Thanks for your clarification