you hate ilegal mexicans?

[HI]

America has a welcome mat and a front door. Just knock and we'll do the things necessary to get you in, under our ways.

Problem is folks don't want to use the welcome mat and they don't want to use the front door.

Instead they want to smash a window, then they grab a broom and start sweepin the kitchen floor. When the owner comes downstairs and sees someone they don't know sweepin the floor, they get mad cuz someone broke in.

Now the person sweepin the floor is like, "Hey what's it matter? Your floor needed sweepin anyways!"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN MY HOUSE!"

To which the broom sweeper might say, "But I don't have a house and there is plenty of room and you got tons of work around here I could do and I need a job. So whats the problem?"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

To which the broom sweeper says, "What do I look like a burgular?"

To which the home owner says, "BUT YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

Ok, so yeah illegals have tons of reasons to justify bein here. But like in my lil insta-parable there.......

'YOU BROKE IN TO MY HOUSE!!!"

I dont really think that's what the owner really says. I think what the owner would really say, and in fact is saying is: "Darn it! You broke in. Oh well, why dont you just clean up my house, paint the walls, fix the plumbing, take care of my children, make some good enchiladas for me and I'll pay you half as much as I'd pay any other person. If you dont want it, then I'll just scream "YOU BROKE INTO MY HOUSE" and have you dragged out, maybe even beat up first."

On a side note, did you guys see the human being that got beat to death while he begged for mercy by immigrant officials? They were just dragging him out of your house. Or did you see the minor they killed? They must have been dragging him out of your house too.

The illegal immigration problem would stop if Americans refused to give illegal immigrants job, but they sure do like the cheap labor. I mean, isnt it illogical? To say "Don't come here!" and under the table one says, "work for me, I'll give you a job."

 

[grace]

I am saddened by some attitudes on here.

Laws are laws and rules are rules.

I will repeat what I said earlier...scripture says that we are to obey the laws of the land.

No wonder with some thinking that it is ok to break laws because of justifications...that scripture also says, *many that cry out Lord, Lord, I will say unto them, I never knew you.*

I would never dream of going to another country thinking I have a sense of entitlement due to the circumstances of my home country. Where does your faith come in?? Do you NOT believe that ALLLL things work to the good of those who love Him??? Submit those circumstances to Him and trust that your eternal reward awaits you for your faithfulness on earth.

 

[1still_waters]

Like Grace pointed out, laws are laws.

You can't break the law, then in the next breath appeal to the Bible and start quoting Jesus.

It seems so duplicitous.

 

[HI]

Like Grace pointed out, laws are laws.

You can't break the law, then in the next breath appeal to the Bible and start quoting Jesus.

It seems so duplicitous.

Have you ever heard of an american being punished for breaking the law of hiring illegal work hands? Why dont they punished? If laws are laws

 

[HI]

Have you ever heard of an american being punished for breaking the law of hiring illegal work hands? Why dont they punished? If laws are laws

*Why dont they get punished? Typo there. Man, this is a debate people can get firey about, eh? Hopefully we wont forget we are all God's children.

 

[1still_waters]

HI. You can't blur the issue of folks being here illegally by pointing to some hypothetical situation where an illegal is treated badly

 

[grace]

Have you ever heard of an american being punished for breaking the law of hiring illegal work hands? Why dont they punished? If laws are laws

They should be punished as well. Our laws state that taxes have to be paid and workers need documentation to be employed in the United States. If an employer wants to evade the law to save money by hiring undocumented workers...then he should be punished also.

 

[1still_waters]

I remember when Dog The Bounty Hunter went to Mexico, Mexico threw him in jail!

Why the double standards?

It seems like EVERY other country in the world is allowed to have laws against illegally entering their nation, but for some reason the USA isn't.

 

[HI]

HI. You can't blur the issue of folks being here illegally by pointing to some hypothetical situation where an illegal is treated badly

Hypothetical situation? as in it really doesnt happen because it's a hypothesis? Haha, if that is what you mean by hypothetical situation, well, they're not really hypothetical situations. But that's not the point. I agree with what you say: laws are laws. But to break the illegal immigration law there must be two parties: the illegal immigrant, and the person that hires that person. You are telling me that it is correct for the american not to get punished? Like I said before, if americans stop hiring illegal immigrants, you wouldnt have them coming in hordes. Why would they if they cant find jobs?

 

[1still_waters]

If an American went to Mexico, broke a law, got arrested, got deported, then said, "Why do you hate me?": Don't you think you'd look at the American like he just fell off the 'get real truck'?

 

[1still_waters]

Hypothetical situation? as in it really doesnt happen because it's a hypothesis? Haha, if that is what you mean by hypothetical situation, well, they're not really hypothetical situations. But that's not the point. I agree with what you say: laws are laws. But to break the illegal immigration law there must be two parties: the illegal immigrant, and the person that hires that person. You are telling me that it is correct for the american not to get punished? Like I said before, if americans stop hiring illegal immigrants, you wouldnt have them coming in hordes. Why would they if they cant find jobs?

We are cracking down on people who hire illegals.

Just because illegals are hired doesn't mean they are right to come in to this country the wrong way.

 

[mexicanfriend]

ok

Mexicans point of view; of course they will be agree with me.

Americans(usa citizen) point of view; only a few a few part of americans will be agree with me, maybe ilegal people! haha and maybe some chicanos(mexican-american jaja but some of my own race there are sometimes more racist with mexicans in usa! haha),

but we are missing the most important point of view! GOD'S POINT OF VIEW!
thanks for those who in their comments still they weren't agree with the ilegals in usa, they told me their point of view, going to the truth, but with love, not in a rude way, or without thinking, for those that told me they weren't agree with ilegals, but they told me that with love and in a ethical way...thanks you so much my friends!

if Jesus had made a comment here, he would probably have say;

mexicans!; obey the law.

americans!;be merciful.

and both of you; don't judge nobody if you don't want to be judged.

God Bless you.

 

[1still_waters]

Being merciful doesn't mean NOT enforcing laws.

 

[grace]

Hypothetical situation? as in it really doesnt happen because it's a hypothesis? Haha, if that is what you mean by hypothetical situation, well, they're not really hypothetical situations. But that's not the point. I agree with what you say: laws are laws. But to break the illegal immigration law there must be two parties: the illegal immigrant, and the person that hires that person. You are telling me that it is correct for the american not to get punished? Like I said before, if americans stop hiring illegal immigrants, you wouldnt have them coming in hordes. Why would they if they cant find jobs?

The essence of christianity speaks of personal responsibility. WE have to accept the gift of salvation...WE have to ask forgiveness of sins and repent of those things....WE have to walk in the fruits of the spriit daily to strive to become more Christ-like. Without taking those steps ourselves...we would not have salvation or eternal life. It is up to us to make the decision.

Two wrongs does not make a right (as they say)

Just because there is someone willing to hire you does not make the undocumented immigration here right.

Both partied need to take personal responsibility for their part.

It is illegal to live in pretty much any country that you are not a native of without documentation. Period!

 

[HI]

We are cracking down on people who hire illegals.

Just because illegals are hired doesn't mean they are right to come in to this country the wrong way.

Yup, I 100% agree with you. But you do have to admit, we do have a natural tendency not to follow laws, right? Just because there is a law against stealing in, I'd say, every country, that doesn't mean that NOBODY steals. Now, you might think it's an excuse, or just an argument trying to defend illegal immigrants, but it's not really an excuse, it's more like a fact of life. Let's go with the stealing example. I live in Nuevo Leon, where cars are robbed every time the stoplight turns red. They dont steal just any cars, they steal the big trucks, the luxurious cars. There is a law against that, but yet, people do it. Do you know what's happening? The number of people driving around in those cars is reducing. Now the rich people are driving, what'd we say, are normal cars. Is it fair for them not to be able to drive the cars they've worked hard (or maybe not) to get? No, it's not fair.

Is it fair for illegal immigrants to cross the border? No, it's not fair. Once the U.S. government really cracks down on people who hire illegals, Mexico will have to become responsible and do something since the rich neighbor they can throw the poor to wont be available anymore.

 

[Stand_Up_4_God]

I've seen many people that have been punished for hiring ''under the table'' or whatever for illegals. Honestly no offense, but seems like Mexicanfriend and Hi are the ones that are being raciest here, they are generalizing Americans as a whole. Not every American is the same. Personally to be bluntly honest, I believe this thread was a bad idea. It will only cause tempers to flare and comments to be made that should be. I mean no harm in what I'm saying, it's just my honest opinion so Still, please don't be upset about that I also agree with your statement, that being merciful doesn't mean NOT enforcing laws. I had family that moved to Mexico, and they were treated badly there as well. They had laws they were forced to obey, which they did willingly, but none the less, the point is all the same. We go to Mexico, New Mexico, whatever, we're treated the same. Anyhow, I'm just saying,and I think I'll just stop here with this, as it can get very heated, and I don't want that so God bless all.

 

[HI]

I've seen many people that have been punished for hiring ''under the table'' or whatever for illegals. Honestly no offense, but seems like Mexicanfriend and Hi are the ones that are being raciest here, they are generalizing Americans as a whole. Not every American is the same. Personally to be bluntly honest, I believe this thread was a bad idea. It will only cause tempers to flare and comments to be made that should be. I mean no harm in what I'm saying, it's just my honest opinion so Still, please don't be upset about that I also agree with your statement, that being merciful doesn't mean NOT enforcing laws. I had family that moved to Mexico, and they were treated badly there as well. They had laws they were forced to obey, which they did willingly, but none the less, the point is all the same. We go to Mexico, New Mexico, whatever, we're treated the same. Anyhow, I'm just saying,and I think I'll just stop here with this, as it can get very heated, and I don't want that so God bless all.

Hello there,

I have the tendency to sound a bit sarcastic or rude at times, forgive me if I have offended you in anyway. I've heard every joke, comment, metaphor, comparison, etc. about illegal immigrants, so these kind of debates or sharing of opinions dont bother me. Besides, are we not all Christian? Meaning that at the end, in heaven, I'll be able to go up to still_waters and say, "Hey you, remember that one time we talked about illegal immigrants and we got fired up a bit?" And we'll have a good laugh about it. As long as people dont take things to heart, I'd say any debate is good.

 

[HI]

If an American went to Mexico, broke a law, got arrested, got deported, then said, "Why do you hate me?": Don't you think you'd look at the American like he just fell off the 'get real truck'?

Couldnt keep up with the posts fast enough. I missed some. Would I look at the American like he just fell off the "get real truck"? Ummm...no! I, along with my humble comrades, would be thinking: "Wow, where did this god of golden hair who holds the ocean in their eyes come from?" or in case you are a dark haired dark eyed American, we'd be thinking "Wow, where did this god of coffeed hair who holds the night in their eyes come from?" And then we'd probably cover our hands with our faces, as to not shame the american's beauty with our simple glances...of course I'm joking here. Yes, I'd look at the American like he just fell off the "get real truck", and then I, along with my humble comrades, would probably take the wheels and mirrors of that get real truck and sell them half the price at the flea market, where everything is at a good price and if you get lucky, you could find an original thing...joking again.

Why does this debate cause so many strong emotions? Who taught you to feel so strongly about this? Who taught me to feel so strongly about this also?

 

[jimmydiggs]

If the United States had a truely free market, and not the quasi-socialism we have today, immigrants would be needed greatly, and we would want more and more. That's how it was for much of the 1800s. Cheap labor = Cheap goods. If we wanted to produce more of our own goods here, and send less money to China, which clearly is undermining American National Security, by attacking out eletrical grids every day.


Hear me now, listen to me later.

If we didn't have quasi-socialism, businessmen would be trying to get as many immigrants as possible to fill up factories to build cheap plastic crap made in America, and not the Peoples Republic of China.


Obey laws; yes.

Find ways to reduce the burden that illegals cause, by not requiring hospitals to pay for everyone that walks through their doors.


Solutions are sometimes so easy, no one believes them.

 

[DunnY]

apparently the whole world can fit in texas. share the land america