For Calvinists: Do you skip evangelizing because God chooses?

[Depleted]

I understand that concept of calvinism now that they think they are special,completely exempt from hell,but what I mean in more simplistic words is that God has control over salvation in that though through Jesus it is freely given to believers,he decides who is worthy of salvation,not of works but by accepting Jesus whom died for our sins,because remember there are quote "believers" that don't serve God yet lay claim to Jesus's name all the same in an attempt to do as they please and not face hell,so in such a case they are liars and will not have salvation for they treat Jesus's sacrifice and promise as a shield to hide behind,instead of Trusting in Jesus and serving him in his name.

Since you understand it, do you want to teach me that? Because I'm only a Calvinist and don't understand that at all.

 

[Depleted]

I don't claim to be an expert on calvinism,just heard what I said here on this site from a member,I suppose I may check into your verse though,thanks.

Wasn't "people lie" covered a few times earlier on this thread?

 

[Depleted]

children aren't held accountable for their parents sin only for their own sins,if they understand reasonably what sin is otherwise they are still innocent.

And ancestor of mine was the Duke of Buckingham. By being related to him, I should have the family property and the title of duchess. Unfortunately, Duke bothered Henry the VIII, so off with his head, and the family money, and property, went to the king of England. His grandson went back to another king and asked for the title and land back. Same outcome. It seemed like a good time to flee Jolly Ole, so the family took off to American.

I never annoyed the king. Shouldn't the queen give me back my family castle? No? But true, "the sins of the father are passed down to their children. We all got Adam's punishment. If you think Buckingham Palace would be a good house, what about Eden?

And who soft soaped people into buying babies are innocent. Innocent is loving God with our heart, mind, soul, and body, and to love others as ourselves. Babies excel at loving self -- the opposite of innocent. We were born sinful, so excel at it even before we can talk.

 

[SovereignGrace]

And ancestor of mine was the Duke of Buckingham. By being related to him, I should have the family property and the title of duchess. Unfortunately, Duke bothered Henry the VIII, so off with his head, and the family money, and property, went to the king of England. His grandson went back to another king and asked for the title and land back. Same outcome. It seemed like a good time to flee Jolly Ole, so the family took off to American.

I never annoyed the king. Shouldn't the queen give me back my family castle? No? But true, "the sins of the father are passed down to their children. We all got Adam's punishment. If you think Buckingham Palace would be a good house, what about Eden?

And who soft soaped people into buying babies are innocent. Innocent is loving God with our heart, mind, soul, and body, and to love others as ourselves. Babies excel at loving self -- the opposite of innocent. We were born sinful, so excel at it even before we can talk.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Depleted again." Grrrrrrr!!!

 

[SovereignGrace]

children aren't held accountable for their parents sin only for their own sins,if they understand reasonably what sin is otherwise they are still innocent.

Why did David's and Bathsheba's baby they had through adultery die?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I understand that concept of calvinism now that they think they are special,

Totally unfounded and unnecessary. Where have any of us Calvinists ever said we're special?

completely exempt from hell

Seeing that the Christ bore our sins for us, and atoned for them, yes, all believers are exempt from hell.

 

[maxwel]

Totally unfounded and unnecessary. Where have any of us Calvinists ever said we're special?



Seeing that the Christ bore our sins for us, and atoned for them, yes, all believers are exempt from hell.

I think you're special.

 

[Amberlight]

I think you're special.

We are all special to God

 

[Laish]

I think you're special.

Ya better watch out or you might get some special poetry from SG
some cool lines he saves for his friends.
Blessings
Bill

 

[SovereignGrace]

I think you're special.

Uh huh...special as in 'ed' I bet. Lullz

 

[SovereignGrace]

Ya better watch out or you might get some special poetry from SG
some cool lines he saves for his friends.
Blessings
Bill

Okay, you talked me into it...not that hard to do, either.

One eyed guy
Says I am special
He thinks I am gold
But I am really a heavy metal

One eyed guy
Says I am one of a kind
Ran into some barbwire
And now he's blind

 

[maxwel]

Uh huh...special as in 'ed' I bet. Lullz

I never said that.

It seems you're predestined to hear snyde remarks in your head... how weird is that.
(This would make Calvin roll over in his grave if he were foreordained to do that particular thing.)


Ya know, it's entirely possible my comment was meant to be kind, and loving, and compassionate.

I mean... it's not likely... but it's certainly possible.

 

[maxwel]

Okay, you talked me into it...not that hard to do, either.

One eyed guy
Says I am special
He thinks I am gold
But I am really a heavy metal

One eyed guy
Says I am one of a kind
Ran into some barbwire
And now he's blind

And how would you sleep at night if you knew this hurt my feelings so bad it made me cry?


I mean, I don't actually have feelings or anything... but I mean if I did.


It's just a hypothetical really.

 

[SovereignGrace]

I never said that.

It seems you're predestined to hear snyde remarks in your head... how weird is that.
(This would make Calvin roll over in his grave if he were foreordained to do that particular thing.)


Ya know, it's entirely possible my comment was meant to be kind, and loving, and compassionate.

I mean... it's not likely... but it's certainly possible.

I pray that did not offend you...I was only joking.

 

[SovereignGrace]

One eyed guy
Needs his head on a swivel
Thinks he is on top
But really in the middle

One eyed guy
Can't even be a lookout
Waiting for attacking ninjas
And then got took out

 

[trofimus]

This is full-blown Pelagianism. Pelagius taught that ppl are born tabula rasa and that's horribly wrong.

Why do you think so?

 

[trofimus]

The wages of sin is death...[Romans 6:23]

If babies are sinless, then how can they die?

Christ was also sinless and died on the cross.

Romans 6:23 is about something else than the ability of our bodies to die.

 

[trofimus]

[When did babies sin?] In Adam.......

Is there any Scripture saying that babies or we actively sinned in Adam?

 

[maxwel]

I pray that did not offend you...I was only joking.

Ahh... see... you're one of those people with feelings... I knew you'd feel bad.
: )

But uh, no, I'm not offended, lol.

Fire away.

It's all good.


I don't get offended by Calvinists merely doing what they're predestined to do.

And regarding your last poem... ninjas are nothing to joke about.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Why do you think so?

I think Psalm 58:3 is a good starting place.