Sin Confession: A Waste of Breath?

[Genez]

Here is the cure for that...
It is written..."And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts." (Gal 5:24)
Peter writes..."Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;" (1 Peter 4:1)

When we suffer with Christ, it is when we are "immersed" (baptized) into his death. (Rom 6:3-6)
The result? "For he that is dead is freed from sin". (Rom 6:7)

You don't have to keep sinning.
Start with a real repentance from sin.

We don't have to keep sinning. The world before Christ died on the Cross was constantly sinning. We now have been given the indwelling Holy Spirit to control our sin nature as long as we walking in the filling of the Spirit and continue to seek growth in gaining more and more Truth from God's Word.

Stagnating and sitting on our laurels of our salvation will get us out of God's will for our lives. Wemust continue to grow in grace and truth till we leave this earth.

"But keep on growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen."

2 Peter 3:18
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The Greek tense reveals that we are to be constantly growing. Never stopping till the Lord removes us from this earth. That means? We need to find a pastor-teacher who always studies and is personally always growing in his knowledge and understanding of the Word. Some pastors are that way. Too many are not.

 

[Genez]

Would you mind telling me whose doctrine this is?

Mind telling me why you can not comprehend what I wrote? Truth is truth. Not some brand of truth.

What "brand" do you belong to?

 

[Genez]

Would you mind telling me whose doctrine this is?

I should tell you?

I have been studying and learning from others since 1979. Daily. Many teachers. Not just one. Not just one church.

Who's doctrine? I have learned from many. One man had insight here. Another had insight there. And, as i got older in the Lord I would only learn from those who studied the Word of God with understanding of the original languages and students of history.

But, that is all besides the point. Deal with what I wrote, please.

 

[PJW]

We don't have to keep sinning. The world before Christ died on the Cross was constantly sinning. We now have been given the indwelling Holy Spirit to control our sin nature as long as we walking in the filling of the Spirit and continue to seek growth in gaining more and more Truth from God's Word.
Stagnating and sitting on our laurels of our salvation will get us out of God's will for our lives. Wemust continue to grow in grace and truth till we leave this earth.

"But keep on growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.
2 Peter 3:18​

The Greek tense reveals that we are to be constantly growing. Never stopping till the Lord removes us from this earth. That means? We need to find a pastor-teacher who always studies and is personally always growing in his knowledge and understanding of the Word. Some pastors are that way. Too many are not.

I agree.
Thanks for the exhortation.

 

[MarcR]

If Jesus made one sacrifice for sins forever, why do any Israelites have to believe in Him for their sins to be forgiven? Why do any of us?

Jesus made one sacrifice for sins forever, but for us to recieve the benefits of the sacrifice, we have to believe in Him. If we have already believed in Him and have been forgiven from sin, and sin again, we are to confess our sins, because if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse of all unrighteousness as I John says. And in order to receive this salvation, we also have to continue in faith, as the author of Hebrews writes,

Hebrews 3:!4
For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;


Compare this to I Corinthians 15:2.


15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

By paying our 'Sin Debt' Jesus claimed the right of Lordship (ownership) over all people. both by right of creation and by right of redemption. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge His Lordship (ownership), in so doing, takes responsibility for the consequence of his/her sins back upon him/her self.

 

[PJW]

Mind telling me why you can not comprehend what I wrote? Truth is truth. Not some brand of truth.

What "brand" do you belong to?

It was an honest question.
I am of "The Church By Christ Jesus (Eph 3:21)"

When I read things like..."All unbelievers will not be going to the Lake of Fire for their sins. The penalty was paid for on the Cross!"
And..."No unbeliever's sins will be mentioned in the final judgement. Only their works will be evaluated"...I feel the subterfuge of the devil.

 

[BillG]

Once we have been ''saved'' it is a finished work that JESUS accomplished

Being repentant does not add anything to HIS "FINISHED" work.

IF you add anything to HIS "FINISHED" work you make it void !!!

Good post.

What I find interesting is how people understand the word repent and how it is applied.

The basic definition is as follows (Strongs

3340. metanoeó)​

I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.

3340 metanoéō (from 3326 /metá, "changed afterbeing with" and 3539 /noiéō, "think") – properly, "think differently after," "after a change of mind"; to repent(literally, "think differently afterwards").

I look at it this way. I am sure there will be those of you who will disagree with me, but here goes.

Jesus said that he had to go back to the Father.

John 16:7-11
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

So when the Holy Spirit convicts someone of their unbelief in Jesus and a person comes to belief they have therefore repented.
That is to change their mind concerning Jesus, his claims, his death on the cross, his burial and his resurrection.
They need to know the reasons why this happened.
Which is to forgive us of our sins and reconcile us back to the Father.
They also need to know that the Holy Spirit is now in them to conform them to the image of Jesus.

Most would agree that walking in a way that is contrary to the Father is sin.

To me If a person has truly come to Jesus not only have they repented of the sin of unbelief but also repented of ways that they know are contrary to the way that Jesus walked. That doesn’t mean that they won’t struggle with sin and in particular ingrained patterns of behaviour. BUT THEY WANT TO BE LIKE JESUS.

Now that being the case, to me this is where confession comes in.

[3670 /homologéō ("confess") means to speak the same thing, i.e. "assent, agree with, confess, declare, admit" (Vine, Unger, White, NT, 120).]

So when a believer sins the Holy Spirit (to me) tells me I got it wrong.
I then agree that I did get it wrong, i verbally confess to God that I got it wrong. Say I am sorry and ask for help.
Then the Father reassures me that it is forgiven on account of Jesus.

Any genuine believer will at some point confess their sin, whether it be straight away or at some point they realise that there seems to be something blocking their walk with God.

So to me confession is to restore the relationship with the Father.
I genuinely think any barrier between us and the Father is from our side and not his.
When The temple curtain was torn in 2 we have access 24/7 to the Father.
If we sin and don’t confess it then guilt and condemnation starts in us, therefore we fear coming before God.
To know that our sins have been forgiven makes it easier to confess.

I hope I make some sense.

 

[Genez]

It was an honest question.
I am of "The Church By Christ Jesus (Eph 3:21)"

When I read things like..."All unbelievers will not be going to the Lake of Fire for their sins. The penalty was paid for on the Cross!"
And..."No unbeliever's sins will be mentioned in the final judgement. Only their works will be evaluated"...I feel the subterfuge of the devil.

So... You are saying that in God's eyes sin are more important, and holds more weight, than unbelief in His Son. Correct?

"He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours
but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2:2
​

All the sins of unbelievers were paid for on the Cross. Not just our sins were paid for. Mankind's sins have already been judged and paid for on the Cross on Christ! From what you are now telling me? Was God's judgment imperfect?

Its not for just our sins that the penalty was bore by Christ! The whole entire world has had their sins paid for as well.

Are you saying that God will judge the unbeliever according to his sins? How? When Revelation says the unbelievers will be evaluated according to their works. Not their sins.

For, you can not judge what has already been judged and paid for! All sins have been paid for on the Cross.

"And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books
​

were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life.
And the dead were judged according to their works, (not their sins)
by the things which were written in the books." Revelation 20:12
​

Sins will not be mentioned! Only their works, which can not save them. For, they rejected Christ and thought their good deeds would make them acceptable before God. No sin will be mentioned.

“Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved
—you and your household.” Acts 16:31
​

Its unbelief that reveals one's condemnation. Not their sins.

Ironically... The sin of religious pride would keep many believers out of heaven if sin were still the issue in salvation.

Our sins are evidence showing why Jesus needed to die on the Cross! Man's sins are evidence to the truth of the need for the Cross!

Now we must choose to believe in God and find Christ. Or, reject God and find oneself unable and not wanting to believe in Christ.

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[7seasrekeyed]

Salvation won't be assured till after the final judgement.

hmmm

now who believes that?

anybody?

this is revealing, so, do we have any guesses?

thinking farther along though, he believes he no longer sins...so isn't that a shoe in?

anyone else going whaaaaaaaaa?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

ok

got it

onfacebook

now we know since so many were asking

 

[joaniemarie]

I'm going to use my cutting and pasting skills again to repost. This is worth reading again and is keeping in line with previous postings.

Re: Does the Holy Spirit convict the born again believer of sin?

Sometimes we think some truths are new but in reality they are not. Here is someone back in the 1800's that had a supposedly "heretical" understanding of grace in the form of our sins being forgiven and those sins were continually being washed by the blood of Jesus.

I was reading about a hymn writer from the 1800's called Frances Ridley Havergal. She wrote many hymns and knew Latin, French, German, Greek and Hebrew.

She also knew by heart the 4 gospels, epistles and the book of Revelation by the time she was 23 years old - yet she still lived in total defeat.

She thought she had "great wickedness in her heart" - because of religious traditions taught to her which is what humanistic belief systems believe. They think Christians are a "new evolution" and thus they need to create and maintain their own self-righteousness.

It wasn't until she was reading in the Greek that the present tense was used for 1 John 1:7 "...His blood cleanseth us from all sin".

She realized all her sins were forgiven by the blood of Jesus and thus she believed it and experienced peace and joy in her life because of this truth and lived a holier life.

Here is a direct QUOTE:

" Have we not been limiting 1 John 1:7 , by practically making it refer only to "remission of sins that are past" instead of taking the grand simplicity of "cleanseth from all sin"?

"All" is all; and as we may trust Him to cleanse us from the stain of past sins so we may trust Him to cleanse us from all present defilement; yes, all!

By refusing to take 1 John 1:7 in it's fullness, we will lose the fullness of it's application and power in our lives. It goes on cleansing , and I have no words to tell how my heart rejoices in it."

UNQUOTE:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=zO_...%22%3F&f=false

She got the revelation that all her sins were forgiven because she was in Christ and thus always in the Light and His blood continually cleansed her. She was able to walk free in Christ from that point on. Today she would be called a heretic and being in error by some for having this belief.

Believing the true gospel of the grace of God in Christ finished work on the cross and resurrection will change us as we grow in His grace. We grow in His grace by the "hearing of Christ Himself".

Here is a book for those interested in her life: Jennie Chappell, "Women Who Have Worked and Won: the life story of Mrs. Spurgeon, Mrs. Booth-Tucker, F.R. Havergal, and Ramabai," London: S.W. Partridge & Co. Ltd. 1904

Time to repost and re member what Jesus has done and how it lasts forever regardless of what we do or don't do. What we do effects how the promises are used or not used in this life. But the fact of our salvation has already been complete and sewn in our hearts and sealed by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Hizikyah]

It is not pleaseant to think about yet according t Scripture there are those who believe they are going to ener and will not;

1 Corinthians 4:4-5, “For I know nothing by myself; yet by this I am not justified, for He Who judges me is יהוה! Therefore, judge nothing before the time. Wait until Yahshua comes, Who will bring to light the things hidden in darkness, and will reveal the secret intentions of men's hearts; and then each man will receive praise from יהוה.”


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 13:28, "In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of Yah, but yourselves being thrown out.”[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Philippians 2:12-13, “So that, my beloved, as you always obeyed – not only in my presence, but now much rather in my absence – work out your own deliverance with fear and trembling, for it is Yah who is working in you both to desire and to work for His righteous pleasure."[/FONT]

 

[joaniemarie]

hmmm

now who believes that?

anybody?

this is revealing, so, do we have any guesses?

thinking farther along though, he believes he no longer sins...so isn't that a shoe in?

anyone else going whaaaaaaaaa?

No because religion and legalism is everywhere. Even believers can fall back into a works mentality after they have been saved by grace through faith. It's a daily discipline to stay in faith and not works for the love and approval and attention of God.

Many verses have already been shared about this beginning by faith and getting bound up in working again. Galatians 3:3 [SUP]3 [/SUP]Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?


I think what happens too is the world the flesh and the devil will always seek to weaken our belief in the consistency of God's love for us IN Christ. Always trying to diminish that great love in which He loves us.
When we allow those 3., world...flesh...devil to distort a clear view of Jesus we can be defeated and discouraged.

We are not of this world anymore. We have God's heart in all matters and we see this by faith. But if we don't believe and have faith that He loves us and we ARE beloved., we won't walk in the victory Jesus already won and gave us.

Even when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness the devil didn't repeat to Jesus that He was God's son in Whom God was well pleased. No., the tactic was "IF" you are the Son of God. Trying to place doubt on who Jesus is and also failing to mention God was well pleased with His Son.

 

[joaniemarie]

It is not pleaseant to think about yet according t Scripture there are those who believe they are going to ener and will not;

1 Corinthians 4:4-5, “For I know nothing by myself; yet by this I am not justified, for He Who judges me is יהוה! Therefore, judge nothing before the time. Wait until Yahshua comes, Who will bring to light the things hidden in darkness, and will reveal the secret intentions of men's hearts; and then each man will receive praise from יהוה.”


Mat 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of YHWH, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."


Luke 13:28, "In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of Yah, but yourselves being thrown out.”





Philippians 2:12-13, “So that, my beloved, as you always obeyed – not only in my presence, but now much rather in my absence – work out your own deliverance with fear and trembling, for it is Yah who is working in you both to desire and to work for His righteous pleasure."

It takes faith to be able to dare to let go of the dependence of our works and allow ourselves to fall into the finished work of Jesus. It reminds me of a ship being built on the docks. There comes a time where we have to allow those ropes of depending on ourselves and to be disentangled from the works we are familiar with and drop them into the water and allow ourselves to fall into the water with "no strings attached" knowing Jesus is going to keep us a float and will not allow us stumble but instead to sail through life by His Spirit.

This word picture is what comes to my mind. It's an act of faith to let go of our control. And in actuality., give it over to the Lord on every level.

 

[joaniemarie]

It seems the most startling thing for many older Christians is when they begin to hear about true righteousness in Christ. Finding out for maybe the first time where righteousness really comes and that "resting" in that is the requirement.

It can be a startling AND shocking freedom from fear that doesn't seem quite true. We are not used to this when it comes to God. We have been taught otherwise. Many of us have not been taught how to be confident in Christ.

When a Christian has lived their whole life sad and maybe even fearful of missing the mark and never really believing they are pleasing to God because of it ., THAT is works of the flesh. Doubt about God., and some fear and guilt thrown in makes for a very sorry joyless Christian and Christian life.

But not so with the Spirit. The Spirit is life and health and peace. But the enemy is ever ready to steal the joy of our salvation and the confidence in that salvation and mostly cast doubt on the love God gave In and by His Son. Romans 8:6

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Now the mind of the flesh [which is sense and reason without the Holy Spirit] is death [death that [SUP][a][/SUP]comprises all the miseries arising from sin, both here and hereafter]. But the mind of the [Holy] Spirit is life and [soul] peace [both now and forever].

​We are recipients of the blessings of God IN Christ not because we deserve them. We have them already and by faith we work them out. Philippians 2:12-13 we work out all through our lives here on earth what Jesus has worked IN us at the time He first saved us. He put all those things in us. We have been given all things pertaining to life and godliness already. By faith we work them out., we don't work "for" them. They are already ours in seed form.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, my dear ones, as you have always obeyed [my suggestions], so now, not only [with the enthusiasm you would show] in my presence but much more because I am absent, work out (cultivate, carry out to the goal, and fully complete) your own salvation with reverence and awe and trembling (self-distrust, [SUP][a][/SUP]with serious caution, tenderness of conscience, watchfulness against temptation, timidly shrinking from whatever might offend God and discredit the name of Christ).
[SUP]
13 [/SUP][Not in your own strength] for it is God Who is all the while [SUP][b][/SUP]effectually at work in you [energizing and creating in you the power and desire], both to will and to work for His good pleasure and satisfaction and [SUP][c][/SUP]delight.


We work "from" victory. We don't work "for" victory. When I remember this., the battle is the Lords.

 

[Speak2Me]

Both Eternal Security and OSAS.

I believe Scripture teaches both; but I recognize your right to disagree.

After I explain why I believe what I believe; it is not my role to persuade you or yours to persuade me.

If we are both saved, the Lord will correct one or both of us in His time.

It is not my role to speculate about your Salvation or yours to question mine.

Who did that? I haven't brought that subject up. I was trying to figure out where you stood, because there are some in the BDF who aren't clear on what they believe.

 

[Hizikyah]

It takes faith to be able to dare to let go of the dependence of our works and allow ourselves to fall into the finished work of Jesus. It reminds me of a ship being built on the docks. There comes a time where we have to allow those ropes of depending on ourselves and to be disentangled from the works we are familiar with and drop them into the water and allow ourselves to fall into the water with "no strings attached" knowing Jesus is going to keep us a float and will not allow us stumble but instead to sail through life by His Spirit.

This word picture is what comes to my mind. It's an act of faith to let go of our control. And in actuality., give it over to the Lord on every level.

That brings this gem to mind;

John/Yahanan 15:5-16, "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and letting My words; abide in you, you will ask what you will, and it will be done for you. In this is My Father glorified: when you produce much fruit; and in this way you become My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you; continue in My love. If you keep My Commands, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's Commands, and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be complete. This is My Command: Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: that one would lay down his life on behalf of his brothers. You are My brothers, if you do whatever I command you."

IMO we must trust in, abide in, and wilk in Him. Does Yah give us strength and our own will? Yes He does. I say we should use that to let Him guide, empower and change us. A littel off topic but the mark of YHWH is in the head and hand, thought/faith and actions/works, and the beast has a counter mark to dissolve Yah's ways. I digress;

John/Yahanan 16:5-16, "5, “But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and not one of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6, “But because I have said these words to you, grief has filled your heart. 7, “But I say the truth to you. It is better for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper shall not come to you at all, but if I go, I shall send Him to you. 8, “And having come, He shall convict the world concerning sin, and concerning righteousness, and concerning judgment, 9, concerning sin because they do not believe in Me, 10, concerning righteousness because I go to My Father and you see Me no more, 11, concerning judgment because the ruler of this world is judged. 12, “I still have many words to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. 13, “But when He comes, the Spirit of the Truth, He shall guide you into all the truth. For He shall not speak from Himself, but whatever He hears He shall speak, and He shall announce to you what is to come. 14, “He shall esteem Me, for He shall take of what is Mine and announce it to you. 15, “All that the Father has is Mine. That is why I said that He takes from what is Mine and announces it to you. 16, “A little while, and you do not see Me, and again a little while, and you shall see Me.”

John/Yahanan 6:27, John 6:27, “Do not labor for the food that is perishing, but for the food that is remaining to everlasting life, which the Son of Aḏam shall give you, for the Father, Yah, has set His seal on Him.”

John/Yahanan 14:26, "But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."

 

[7seasrekeyed]

No because religion and legalism is everywhere. Even believers can fall back into a works mentality after they have been saved by grace through faith. It's a daily discipline to stay in faith and not works for the love and approval and attention of God.

Many verses have already been shared about this beginning by faith and getting bound up in working again. Galatians 3:3 [SUP]3 [/SUP]Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?


I think what happens too is the world the flesh and the devil will always seek to weaken our belief in the consistency of God's love for us IN Christ. Always trying to diminish that great love in which He loves us.
When we allow those 3., world...flesh...devil to distort a clear view of Jesus we can be defeated and discouraged.

We are not of this world anymore. We have God's heart in all matters and we see this by faith. But if we don't believe and have faith that He loves us and we ARE beloved., we won't walk in the victory Jesus already won and gave us.

Even when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness the devil didn't repeat to Jesus that He was God's son in Whom God was well pleased. No., the tactic was "IF" you are the Son of God. Trying to place doubt on who Jesus is and also failing to mention God was well pleased with His Son.

no, what? what are you saying no to? (rhetorical question)

I have been wondering what denom he was and now I know

has nothing whatsoever to do with what you posted

you must have been on a charge and hit the wrong target

again

n o t h i n g to do with what you believe

 

[PJW]

So... You are saying that in God's eyes sin are more important, and holds more weight, than unbelief in His Son. Correct?

We will all be judged for the deeds done while in our bodies. (Rom 2:6)

"He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours
but also for the sins of the whole world."

1 John 2:2

All the sins of unbelievers were paid for on the Cross. Not just our sins were paid for. Mankind's sins have already been judged and paid for on the Cross on Christ! From what you are now telling me? Was God's judgment imperfect?
Its not for just our sins that the penalty was bore by Christ! The whole entire world has had their sins paid for as well.
Are you saying that God will judge the unbeliever according to his sins? How? When Revelation says the unbelievers will be evaluated according to their works. Not their sins.

Even with the key in your hand, you won't get "in" without turning the knob.
Salvation is available to all, but not all will submit to God in order to receive it. (Matt 7:23)

For, you can not judge what has already been judged and paid for! All sins have been paid for on the Cross.

"And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books
​

were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life.
And the dead were judged according to their works, (not their sins)
by the things which were written in the books." Revelation 20:12​

Why you differentiate between deeds and sins is beyond me.​

Sins will not be mentioned! Only their works, which can not save them. For, they rejected Christ and thought their good deeds would make them acceptable before God. No sin will be mentioned.

Is murder a deed?
I think it is, and won't go unpunished.

Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved
—you and your household.”

Acts 16:31

And if you don't believe?
No salvation.​

Its unbelief that reveals one's condemnation. Not their sins.
Ironically... The sin of religious pride would keep many believers out of heaven if sin were still the issue in salvation.
Our sins are evidence showing why Jesus needed to die on the Cross! Man's sins are evidence to the truth of the need for the Cross!
Now we must choose to believe in God and find Christ. Or, reject God and find oneself unable and not wanting to believe in Christ.[/QUOTE]
Your doctrine is not of God.
You are trying to sell paradise without subjection or love.

 

[PJW]

hmmm
now who believes that?
anybody?
this is revealing, so, do we have any guesses?
thinking farther along though, he believes he no longer sins...so isn't that a shoe in?
anyone else going whaaaaaaaaa?

It is written..."For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17)
Also..."And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (Rev 20:13)

The outcome of our lives will depend on how we live them.
Submit to God and live forever, or reject Him and die the second death.