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[dcontroversal]

are u a jehovah's witness?

Regardless of what religion he is....his premise reeks of ignorance........

 

[dcontroversal]

Let's see... new guy, 24 years old, saved in 1970, challenging core truths of Christianity.

I'd give him a week before he hits the road to Banville. Until then, I need to make more popcorn.

AMEN.....plenty of room at the inn along I-44 in that sleepy little town called Banville......

 

[Faithful2016]

Hi just join this website

 

[posthuman]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, ask me, ask me, I know..I know...

At least six failed prophecies.......

& the production of an obvious and unapologetic purpose-built corruption of the Bible, deriving a malignantly edited scripture from human doctrine instead of deriving doctrine from Spirit-breathed scripture.

is that what we're dealing with here?
hey don't JW's get some kind of heaven-points for every line of blasphemous text they write?
are we just seeing someone working towards their quota?

 

[posthuman]

Hi just join this website

¡bienvenidos!

 

[posthuman]

It is what I call the 'Tinman'.

Let's see if 18 and 19 reveals a Triune Godman/men~

"18 seeing that Abraham shall become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall bless themselves by him? 19 No, for I have chosen[e]him, that he may charge his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice; so that the Lord may bring to Abraham what he has promised him.”

sure:

"I have chosen him" -- that's God as Father, speaking
"the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice" -- that's the Spirit of God, who is holiness
"so that the Lord may bring to Abraham what He has promised him" - that's God as Son, who brings to Abraham the promise, which is redemption, and the blessing of all nations through his lineage: the very work that Jesus Christ wrought, and in doing so, 'brought to Abraham'





vidi sans myopia

 

[Zmouth]

i rather think this is a fault in your personal comprehension of what's going on in this passage, rather than any kind of evidence that God is not omnipresent, or that anything exists that He does not see & hear.

Since an axiom is not a principle but merely a commonly accepted doctrine of man. Evolution is an axiom. An axiom is not established by two immutable things nor does it have a falsifiability.
Evolution Is an Axiom; It Doesn’t Need Supporting Evidence

If God is omnipresent, it would be impossible for God not to be present correct? Is something is omnipresent then it is everywhere at the same time, all the time right?
So how can you reconcile that God is omnipresent when it is written that the LORD only dwells in the presence of the eternal God which no man can approach unto? Considering that the eternal God is light then how can a man walk in darkness if the light is omnipresent since it written that "For thou art my lamp, O LORD:"

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 14:17

Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Ps 119:105

 

[OneFaith]

The TWO THOUSAND YEAR Slander!


The 'Holy' Trinity, the Triune 'Godhead', God-the-Father, God-the-Son, God-the- Holy Ghost, a 'Three-in-One' God!
For TWO THOUSAND YEARS this flimsily disguised Polytheism has been taught and programmed into our minds by CHURCHianity
Is it TRUE?
No. But they twist and mis-translate enough scriptures to fool the masses.
Originally, the Roman Universal ('Catholic') church tortured and killed those refusing to accept this Fabricated Trio.


However, the matter really CAN be easily cleared up WITH NO DOUBT by simply taking a closer look at the Bible, while setting Church Dogma aside!
If you WANT truth- pray for Understanding as you read these inspired words of our maker!
All scriptures giving insight as to who God and Christ are, and what the holy spirit is- from the very START of
the Bible (Genesis)- in ORDER- to the very END of it (Revelation).


We first start with the very first reference to the holy spirit:


Gen 1:2- And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God
moved upon the face of the waters.


Nothing to indicate a Ghost-God..."spirit' is the translation of the Hebrew word for "breath, wind"- an unseen force.

In John chapter one, verse one, Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God (Deity). Does God have a personality disorder- three personalities in one person? No, this is a misunderstanding. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are of one mind and purpose. The Bible says that the church is to also be of one mind and purpose- does that mean we are all the same person with many personalities?

Of course not. We are all individuals who form one body of believers- who are to teach the same things, and to serve the same purpose. This is unity- not personality disorder. God is not one person, ‘God’ is simply plural “Let Us make man in Our image... in the image of God they were created- both male and female.”

 

[posthuman]

Since an axiom is not a principle but merely a commonly accepted doctrine of man. Evolution is an axiom. An axiom is not established by two immutable things nor does it have a falsifiability.

i don't think you are using this word the same way that i use it.

axiom
[ak-see-uh m]
noun

1.a self-evident truth that requires no proof.

2.a universally accepted principle or rule.
​

you're saying an axiom isn't a principle, and that it's not something that requires no proof because it is established by immutable things -- but that's exactly what it is. ((??))

a theorem is a statement of truth that is provable/falsifiable. it is arrived as a conclusion resulting from exposition of axioms & intermediate theorems that arise from those axioms.

biological evolution is a theory - it is falsifiable - you can design an experiment in which biological life is subjected to pressures and examine whether adaption occurs in the way the theory describes that it may. whether you personally have the time or resources to carry out an experiment isn't a part of the question of whether something may be proven or disproven by experiment.

in mathematics things are slightly different than in physical sciences, because the space in which theorems are stated and examined is entirely abstract: therefore it is never the case that physical limitations prevent you from examining a theorem. you may however be prevented by lack of knowledge: there are many 'theorems' that remain unproven - it is not certain whether they are true or are not. these statements arise in situations where observational evidence in terms of brute calculation do not contradict the statement ((i.e. every actual number you can think of that you plug into an equation turns out good, but you can't solve it for 'x' in general)), but through abstract reasoning according to the logical application of known, proven truth-statements, no one has figured out a way to either prove conclusively that the statement is true or not true in all cases.


people may talk about such ideas as biological speciation through adaption as though they are axiomatic, but that's a gross mischaracterization. people may talk about the theory of evolution as though it is an origin theory, but that's also a gross mischaracterization. people may also say that speciation arising from environmental pressures over the course of many generations is non-falsifiable, but that's also a mischaracterization, and all three positions are positions of ignorance and inability:
what's lacking is accurate scholarship and knowledge, comprehension of scope, and in the last case, the ability to watch patiently over hundred of thousands of years to see what happens.

what's interesting about experimentally testing biological macro-evolution is that the means by which it must be done demand great authority and power over creation, and more importantly, time-spans far beyond the length of recorded history. it's something God alone can really do definitively -- He alone knows the details of "Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind"
mankind can only ponder deeply those words, look at the forensic evidence, wonder, and speculate.




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what exactly did this have to do with the thread?

 

[jaybird88]

i thought axiom was that marketing company that gets all up into your personal business.

 

[posthuman]

i thought axiom was that marketing company that gets all up into your personal business.

you're probably thinking of sirius xm[SUP]©[/SUP] satellite radio

 

[jaybird88]

you're probably thinking of sirius xm[SUP]©[/SUP] satellite radio

sirius is knee deep into the dark esoteric agenda. of all the names they could have picked they went with sirius, one of the lead egyptian gods. they corrupted egypt into the dark ways, now they want to corrupt us. they make us think they are doing us a favor giving us the free 1 yr radio subscription when we get a new car, next thing you know we are programmed and entertaining how cool it would be to have our brained nanoteched.
thats why i stick with my 8-track in my 77 chevy luv.

 

[valiant]

I told someone else i RARELY put personal info online.
I am (not claiming to be God, Trinnies!) well over 35....

Yes, I AM (Not claiming to be God) a JW.
I am just honest as to our mistakes and error- and the WTBS nonsense.
Ironic, since the WTBS is the only group I know of that promulgates the Truth.....

your mixed up mind is very clear in every respect.

 

[trofimus]

Originally, the Roman Universal ('Catholic') church tortured and killed those refusing to accept this Fabricated Trio.


However, the matter really CAN be easily cleared up WITH NO DOUBT by simply taking a closer look at the Bible, while setting Church Dogma aside!

Roman Church also killed many people who used writings outside the approved canon, so why do you use the Bible, given to you by 2000 years old "churchianity"?

You are either very inconsistent or your arguments are useless.

 

[beta]

' I and my Father are one'...2 Beings but ONE in Spirit....as we will be when we have made it into the Kingdom...many members/Saints but all in the same Spirit as God....ONE Spirit.

 

[Zmouth]

i don't think you are using this word the same way that i use it.

axiom
[ak-see-uh m]
noun

1.a self-evident truth that requires no proof.
​

((??))

1.a self-evident truth that requires no proof.
Sorry Pa, if an axiom is a self-evident truth that requires no proof....then how is it self-evident since it is written in the Gospel to prove all things? [See 1 Thess 5:21]
[video=youtube;t8XMeocLflc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8XMeocLflc[/video]
2.a universally accepted principle or rule.
Just because one holds an axiom as truth without proof doesn't mean that what they hold is the truth, much less a principle. Sorry, if the Gospel is hid it is hid to them that are lost.

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what exactly did this have to do with the thread?

Isn't it self-evident?

 

[notmyown]

i'd like to see the statistical data & the study parameters that support that statement.

i don't believe that you yourself being banned from many places would be a good indicator of that - it'd be a sample of size 1 no matter how many forums you went to, so not good for inference to begin with, and if that's your basis there'd also be a whomping big lot of bias integrated into your procedure.

can you do the math?

((ok lol probably there is no firm evidence behind that statement; you made it flippantly. just thought i'd ask in case))

but we don't need to use math to understand one thing:
if any person is constantly being disagreed with, rebuked, corrected & eventually barred from further participation in discussion, especially when those conversations are taking place among a cultured & learned group of people who *should* understand the truth, that is not evidence that the person who is constantly being corrected is correct -- it's actually an indicator that they are not.

maybe you can use math!

common denominator? (we use this as an expression at home when we begin to see we are bringing our problems with us )

or is that merely lowly arithmetic? lol

 

[theQuestiion]

' I and my Father are one'...2 Beings but ONE in Spirit....as we will be when we have made it into the Kingdom...many members/Saints but all in the same Spirit as God....ONE Spirit.

That's a New One: "2 Beings but ONE in Spirit"
Jesus said: God is spirit.
But then, what church-goer knows what "spirit" means?

 

[theQuestiion]

' I and my Father are one'...2 Beings but ONE in Spirit....as we will be when we have made it into the Kingdom...many members/Saints but all in the same Spirit as God....ONE Spirit.

So your 'Godhead' has swollen from 3 to Millions? Billions?

 

[theQuestiion]

Next is Exodus.


Ex 3:13 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? What shall I say unto them?


14- And God said unto Moses, I shall prove to be: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Shall Prove to Be hath sent me unto you. [Not the erroneous "I Am"]
15- And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,


>>>> Jehovah, <<<<
[The Name both Jews and Antichrists REMOVED and REPLACED in the scriptures almost 7,000 times!]


the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you:
this is my NAME FOREVER, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
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No mention of a ‘God-the-Son’, nor a ‘God-the-Ghost’.
A Personal Name that would be FOREVER!
Also notice that God NEVER says “If you listen to US”, “WE will bless you”. etc. when speaking; He ALWAYS speaks in the ‘first person’!
This does not show 3 God-Beings, nior a Three-in-One God.

Just ONE God.