Which of Jesus' teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

Hizikyah · Oct 22, 2017

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy, so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you, yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God?"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:28, "For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the Law."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:7, Shall we therefore say that the Law is sin? No! By no means! But to the contrary, I did not know sin; transgression of the Law, except through the Law, for I did not know lust, unless the Law had said: Do not covet."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and (#G2087 ) any othercommandments aresummed up ( #G346 ) in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Peter 3:15-17, "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I want to point out that the words that are in italics are ADDED:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, (NKJV), "having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity. "[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Not only odes the next verse tell us what was abolished, but when you remove the ADDED words the meaning changes.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 2:15-16, "Abolishing the enmity Law, the Commandments, and the Ordinances, through His own flesh, in order to create in Himself one new man from the two; making peace, That would reconcile both in one body to YHWH through the sacrifice--having killed the enmity through Himself."[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]enmity” is word # G2190[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He abolished the hatred of the Law...[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."[/FONT]

7seasrekeyed · Oct 22, 2017

Issachar92 said:

Folks still struggling to understand how a testament works?
I live, I give my testament, I die, now its in effect.
Jesus lived, gave His testament, died and resurrected, now its in effect.

He didnt go around preaching and teaching wasting His time, only to die, resurrect and come back with a different testament He gave while alive. MAKES NO SENSE on a spiritual or even secular level. That'd be the shortest testament ever.

Can someone please give me a verse where Jesus says hey ima come back later with a different doctrine somehow, so when I said in the great commission to go into all the world and teach all that i HAVE commanded you, i only meant until Paul comes along.

common sense with humor

I like that

Hizikyah · Oct 22, 2017

Issachar92 said:

Just the oppisite, His words are our guide and will last forever;

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting." [/FONT]

Johnny_B · Oct 22, 2017

Here is what Jesus though of Gentiles. Matthew 7:6 “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.”

Jesus calls a Canaanite women a dog in Mattew 15:22-26 “And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.”23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.”24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.”26 And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”

Also notice when He sends out the 12 what His instructions are. Matthew 10:6-8

“These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, “Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.7 And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay.”

His message was to Jews only, I see that Matthew 4:25 was posted out of context, here is the context. Matthew 4:23-25

“And he went throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction among the people.24 So his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, those having seizures, and paralytics, and he healed them.25 And great crowds followed him from Galilee and the Decapolis, and from Jerusalem and Judea, and from beyond the Jordan.”

Jesus taight in the synagouges which are Jewish not Gentile. Why is it so hard for people to admit that the Gospel was for and to the Jews first, even after Jesus' resurrection. Romans 1:16

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.”

The idea that the Gospel is to the Jews is not dispensationalism it is the word of God, we need to submit to it.

Hizikyah · Oct 22, 2017

Did you know the samaritians had altered the 10 commandments, to say "thou shall worship on Mt Gerazim?"

yet this woman showed that she knew Yahshua was a man of Yah;

[SUP]21[/SUP] Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. [SUP]22[/SUP] A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to Him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.”
[SUP]23[/SUP] Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to Him and urged Him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” [SUP]24[/SUP] He answered, “I was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel.”
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The woman came and knelt before Him. “Lord, help me!” she said. [SUP]26[/SUP] He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.” [SUP]27[/SUP] “Yes, Lord,” she said, “but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
[SUP]27[/SUP] Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

7seasrekeyed · Oct 22, 2017

Johnny...let's grab a Bible for a moment and see what you left out. I'm sure you wanted to be thorough, but it seems you are missing some verses in your Bible.

Johnny_B;3316939]Here is what Jesus though of Gentiles. Matthew 7:6 “Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.”

7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye?5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

huh. nothing about Gentiles there. good thing I found the missing verses

Jesus calls a Canaanite women a dog in Mattew 15:22-26 “And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.”23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.”24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.”26 And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”

oh. that's really painful. Jesus hating on that woman like that. ooh..wait a minute. that's not the end of the story after all...look at this:

21 Then Jesus went out from there and departed to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And behold, a woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him, saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.”
23 But He answered her not a word.
And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.”
24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
25 Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
26 But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.”
27 And she said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.”
28 Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

FYI: that is not the only non-Jew Jesus healed. He also went into the Roman gene pool and healed there too.

the rest of your objections are also pretty much likewise missing the rest of the content which makes them out of context

it is also quite interesting to note that Jesus not only healed the NON-JEWISH woman's daughter, He also commended her for her faith IN Him

MadebyHim · Oct 22, 2017

And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.

And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Johnny_B · Oct 22, 2017

7seasrekeyed said:

FYI healing is not salvation, encase you did not know that.

Sure lets use the Bible and lets not forget what the OP is, is Jesus's message to the Jews only.

Jesus call her a dog “And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.” But let us look at the story, to look at what happened. Matthew 15:22-28

“And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.”23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.”24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.”26 And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.”28 Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed instantly.”

You also have confessed the Gospel message that He was sent to the "lost sheep os the house of Israel" that is not Gentiles and yes He comended her faith, but He did not say that she was saved and healing from demon possesion is not salvation and there no mention of repentance or do you have Scripture that teaches that having a demon exercised is salvation without repentance?

Johnny_B · Oct 22, 2017

MadebyHim said:

And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.

And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified.
Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

This has nothing to do with the OP and this is not about Jesus, that is speaking of Paul.

Bogadile · Oct 22, 2017

Ephesians does say that the gentiles used to be far off but now are made fellowcitizens of Israel.

7seasrekeyed · Oct 22, 2017

Johnny_B said:

FYI healing is not salvation, encase you did not know that.

Sure lets use the Bible and lets not forget what the OP is, is Jesus's message to the Jews only.

Jesus call her a dog “And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.” But let us look at the story, to look at what happened. Matthew 15:22-28

“And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon.”23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, “Send her away, for she is crying out after us.”24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.”26 And he answered, “It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.”27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.”28 Then Jesus answered her, “O woman, great is your faith! Be it done for you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed instantly.”

You also have confessed the Gospel message that He was sent to the "lost sheep os the house of Israel" that is not Gentiles and yes He comended her faith, but He did not say that she was saved and healing from demon possesion is not salvation and there no mention of repentance or do you have Scripture that teaches that having a demon exercised is salvation without repentance?

am I gonna answer this?

no I'm not gonna answer this

have a pleasant evening

7seasrekeyed · Oct 22, 2017

well maybe just this since it has already made its debut:

I have dogs

I love them

Jesus commended her and healed her daughter

Jesus came to take away the sins of what? the Jewish nation only?

no dude

the sins of the WORLD

whosoever will means anyone...not everyone as some like to think...but most definately anyone

I think even those who agree with the op are looking at what you are saying and going 'uh..."

good thing most of us have the entire Bible and not the ad lib chopped version which does seem to be your source

I would say later? but honestly? it's probably going to be never

Johnny_B · Oct 23, 2017

7seasrekeyed said:

Why not it is Scripture and it is bring it back to what the OP is about. The OP is "Which of Jesus' teachings were applicable only to the Jews?"

I also went by the full context of the Sriptures you quoted, my FYI was only in responce to your FYI. But more then that if I offended you please forgive me that was not my intent.

Here is something that no one dealt with, my first post in this thread and the first responce to this thread. Here it is,

"The teachings that go beyond the Law, which He teaches to bring the spiritual side of the Law that the Jews forgot. The OT taught to love the Lord God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and to love your neighbor as yourself.

We also need to remember John 1:11-13 “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.”

He came to the Jews to teach them and they rejected Him, except for those elect to eternal life, they believed in Him. Which fulfills Matthew 1:21 “She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

He came to His own and His own people did not receive Him, yet He will and did save His people in that time and His message saves His people that hear His message from then until the end of time.

To answer your question all of His teachings are for the Jews and His people or God's elect received it because He gave them the right to become children of God, not by thier will, but of God."

JaumeJ · Oct 23, 2017

I have already posted to this OP, so now allow me to be plain about everything concerning the response.

There is nothing in the Gospel of Jesus Christ that is not directed to all who will receive it, the Jew first and then the Greek, amen.

Hizikyah · Oct 23, 2017

Romans 1:13-16, “And I do not wish you to be unaware, brothers, that I often purposed to come to you, but was hindered until now, in order to have some fruit among you, as also among the other nations. I am a debtor both to Greeks and to foreigners, both to wise and to foolish. That is why I am so eager to bring the Good News also to you who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the Good News of Messiah, for it is the power of YHWH for deliverance to everyone who believes, to the Yehuḏi first and also to the Greek.”

1 Corinthians 9:18-21, “What then is my reward? That in bringing the Good News, I should offer the Good News of Messiah without cost, so as not to abuse my authority in the Good News. For though I am free from all, I made myself a servant to all, in order to win more, and to the Yehuḏim I became as a Yehuḏi, that I might win Yehuḏim; to those who are under Torah, as under Torah, so as to win those who are under Torah; to those without Torah, as without Torah – not being without Torah toward YHWH, but under Torah of Messiah – so as to win those who are without Torah.”

1 Corinthians 1:23-24, “Yet we proclaim Messiah impaled, to the Yehuḏim a stumbling-block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called – both Yehuḏim and Greeks – Messiah the power of YHWH and the wisdom of YHWH.”

Hizikyah · Oct 23, 2017

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 12:12-18, "For just as the body is a unity, but yet has many members; and though all its members are many, they are one body: so it is with Messiah. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Yahdaim or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit; For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot should say: Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear should say: Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the sense of smelling? But now YHWH has set the members, each one of them in the body, as it has pleased Him."[/FONT]

garee · Oct 23, 2017

Marcelo said:

Its not the law of Moses in respect to the person of Moses as if Moses was in the place of God. .But is the law of God using Moses as a metphor or type to represent the law of God . He uses Elijah to represent the spirit of that that same law. The one seen the letter called the bible as it is written and the Spirit as the law of faith the unseen understanding hid in parables

garee · Oct 23, 2017

Hizikyah said:

Christians the new name he named His bride the church continue as a kingdom of priest as representatives of his unseen glory

The whole of Christianity are typified as if we were from that tribe Levi. He did not leave without a people on earth to represent our High Priest in heaven .

Hizikyah · Oct 23, 2017

garee said:

But my point in saying that is the is no more fleshly pristhood, there is no ordainment that can come from a certificate, a bloodline, etc. If a human is a priest to Yah, it is a spiritual priesthood, and none can quantify this by any earthly measure.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 66:21-22, “And from them too I shall take for priests – for Lĕwites,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make stand before Me,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “so your seed and your name shall stand."[/FONT]

Issachar92 · Oct 23, 2017

Lets cut to the chase here: Aint this just another way to justify not doing what Jesus said? Aint that the truth here?

Which of Jesus' teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

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