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The Word of God is the Law of Truth.
"...a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." Deut 32:4
"The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips:..." Mal 2:6
"...and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes." Isa 65:16
"...a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he." Deut 32:4
"The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips:..." Mal 2:6
"...and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes." Isa 65:16
I would think growing in grace and knowledge because of our new birth .He is the cause. We as new creatures are the effect.
It's His grace that teaches us to say no the first time as it will the same grace that will teach us the last. It is our first love of God by which we could know him. We return to those first works it comforts us, causing us to turn and repent and comfort our own selves.
It's His grace that teaches us to say no the first time as it will the same grace that will teach us the last. It is our first love of God by which we could know him. We return to those first works it comforts us, causing us to turn and repent and comfort our own selves.
It does not say He killed the Law, it says He killed the enmity
Strong's Concordance, “enmity” is word #G2189 echthra: enmity, hostility, Original Word: ἔχθρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: echthra, Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-thrah), Short Definition: enmity, hostility, Definition: enmity, hostility, alienation.
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.
Ephesians 2:16
New International Version
and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
English Standard Version
and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.
Berean Study Bible
and reconciling both of them to God in one body through the cross, by which He extinguished their hostility.
Berean Literal Bible
and He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross, by it having slain the hostility.
New American Standard Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.
King James Bible
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Holman Christian Standard Bible
He did this so that He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross and put the hostility to death by it.
International Standard Version
and reconciling both groups to God in one body through the cross, on which he eliminated the hostility.
NET Bible
and to reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by which the hostility has been killed.
New Heart English Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by which he put to death their enmity.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he has reconciled the two with God in one body, and in his crucifixion he has killed the hatred.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
He also brought them back to God in one body by his cross, on which he killed the hostility.
New American Standard 1977
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.
Jubilee Bible 2000
and to reconcile both with God by the cross {Gr. stauros – stake} in one body, having slain the enmity thereby;
King James 2000 Bible
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
American King James Version
And that he might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
American Standard Version
and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Douay-Rheims Bible
And might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, killing the enmities in himself.
Darby Bible Translation
and might reconcile both in one body to God by the cross, having by it slain the enmity;
English Revised Version
and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Webster's Bible Translation
And that he might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having by it slain the enmity:
World English Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having killed the hostility thereby.
Young's Literal Translation
and might reconcile both in one body to God through the cross, having slain the enmity in it,
Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."
the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH
Unless Yah puts His Spirit on you;
Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”
Romans 7 -
12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.
25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
Strong's Concordance, “enmity” is word #G2189 echthra: enmity, hostility, Original Word: ἔχθρα, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: echthra, Phonetic Spelling: (ekh'-thrah), Short Definition: enmity, hostility, Definition: enmity, hostility, alienation.
Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) Feminine of G2190; hostility; by implication a reason for opposition:—enmity, hatred.
Ephesians 2:16
New International Version
and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
English Standard Version
and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.
Berean Study Bible
and reconciling both of them to God in one body through the cross, by which He extinguished their hostility.
Berean Literal Bible
and He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross, by it having slain the hostility.
New American Standard Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.
King James Bible
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Holman Christian Standard Bible
He did this so that He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross and put the hostility to death by it.
International Standard Version
and reconciling both groups to God in one body through the cross, on which he eliminated the hostility.
NET Bible
and to reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by which the hostility has been killed.
New Heart English Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by which he put to death their enmity.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And he has reconciled the two with God in one body, and in his crucifixion he has killed the hatred.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
He also brought them back to God in one body by his cross, on which he killed the hostility.
New American Standard 1977
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.
Jubilee Bible 2000
and to reconcile both with God by the cross {Gr. stauros – stake} in one body, having slain the enmity thereby;
King James 2000 Bible
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
American King James Version
And that he might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
American Standard Version
and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Douay-Rheims Bible
And might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, killing the enmities in himself.
Darby Bible Translation
and might reconcile both in one body to God by the cross, having by it slain the enmity;
English Revised Version
and might reconcile them both in one body unto God through the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Webster's Bible Translation
And that he might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having by it slain the enmity:
World English Bible
and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, having killed the hostility thereby.
Young's Literal Translation
and might reconcile both in one body to God through the cross, having slain the enmity in it,
Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."
the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH
Unless Yah puts His Spirit on you;
Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”
Romans 7 -
12 Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous.
14 For we know that the Law is spiritual; but I was carnal, sold into the power of sin*.
25 Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]This is impossible unless Yah puts His Spirit on you;[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 11:19-21, “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength. But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 36:26-28, "A new heart, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiel 11:19-21, “And I shall give them one heart, and put a new spirit within you. And I shall take the stony heart out of their flesh, and give them a heart of flesh, so that they walk in My laws, and guard My right-rulings, and shall do them. And they shall be My people and I shall be their Strength. But to those whose hearts walk after the heart of their disgusting matters and their abominations, I shall recompense their deeds on their own heads,” declares the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]
sunday, you told me you did not care about mainline translations, now you quote most of them. why did you not include the jewish Bible, it is on the same site you most likely used to get these translations? did not scroll down that far? or could it that it wrecks your naritive? after all, Jesus and Paul were jewish men.
I cannot take you seriously. You have about as much regard for the way you use words
as a hyenna ripping apart prey.
Almost all the believers I have met here have had a deep conviction experience.
The problem seems to be after this.
And our inner nature is not vile or else we could never be saved.
There are many acts of love and kindness done by people, which indicates your proposition is
false. What is true is one sin indicates the rot that leads to death is present.
So people are born separate from God but with a potential of walking with Him.
It is their withdrawal and shutting down love because they do not have the source of love and
life up and working which dooms them to hell.
If we as sinners did not understand holiness and purity, then we would never repent, because we
would have no mirror over which to see our failure.
The problem with the heart is it self justifies, and ignores minor flaws which poison everything else.
The unfortunate desire to make people seem totally evil and depraved, alienates the lost from the
gospel, and justifies eternal torture in hell.
Even here where loving followers of Christ, who desire to walk in His ways are made out to be
evil liars, deceitful, influenced by evil spirits or possessed, leads to this kind of analogy.
And those who wish to condemn themselves so thoroughly also tend to put it on the flesh, while
their spirit is perfect and holy. It is this split personality which is psychotic in nature.
And who displays this odd split personality so well, p4t.
And who talks religion constantly but lacks the loving touch, p4t.
It is why the idea of concern or even empathy I find very hard to see or even imagine
is taking place, rather it is a wolf trying to destroy another.
as a hyenna ripping apart prey.
Almost all the believers I have met here have had a deep conviction experience.
The problem seems to be after this.
And our inner nature is not vile or else we could never be saved.
There are many acts of love and kindness done by people, which indicates your proposition is
false. What is true is one sin indicates the rot that leads to death is present.
So people are born separate from God but with a potential of walking with Him.
It is their withdrawal and shutting down love because they do not have the source of love and
life up and working which dooms them to hell.
If we as sinners did not understand holiness and purity, then we would never repent, because we
would have no mirror over which to see our failure.
The problem with the heart is it self justifies, and ignores minor flaws which poison everything else.
The unfortunate desire to make people seem totally evil and depraved, alienates the lost from the
gospel, and justifies eternal torture in hell.
Even here where loving followers of Christ, who desire to walk in His ways are made out to be
evil liars, deceitful, influenced by evil spirits or possessed, leads to this kind of analogy.
And those who wish to condemn themselves so thoroughly also tend to put it on the flesh, while
their spirit is perfect and holy. It is this split personality which is psychotic in nature.
And who displays this odd split personality so well, p4t.
And who talks religion constantly but lacks the loving touch, p4t.
It is why the idea of concern or even empathy I find very hard to see or even imagine
is taking place, rather it is a wolf trying to destroy another.
There is such a desire to say "I am safe" not the Lord who I love is warning me, so I should
take note.
Listening to these believers it is like they have a free pass, and whatever happens will happen,
not they are on a walk with a goal to reach the end.
If one has no path, and no goal, and the difference between the world and the Kingdom of heaven
is only the words of faith coming out of some peoples mouths, I would suggest this is not faith at
all, but folly and delusion.
Everything is integrated, and if you have not learnt the heart gives birth to what you say and do,
and if the heart is rotten so is everything else, but if the heart is good so is everything else.
This odd theology and faith simply denies this obvious reality of the Kingdom of heaven.
What I know is the truth wins, because the more you look at it, the more obvious it becomes.
It is why Jesus called us to dwell on His words. Abide in the vine, and He will abide in you and
change you. It is the same as eating good food makes the body strong.
take note.
Listening to these believers it is like they have a free pass, and whatever happens will happen,
not they are on a walk with a goal to reach the end.
If one has no path, and no goal, and the difference between the world and the Kingdom of heaven
is only the words of faith coming out of some peoples mouths, I would suggest this is not faith at
all, but folly and delusion.
Everything is integrated, and if you have not learnt the heart gives birth to what you say and do,
and if the heart is rotten so is everything else, but if the heart is good so is everything else.
This odd theology and faith simply denies this obvious reality of the Kingdom of heaven.
What I know is the truth wins, because the more you look at it, the more obvious it becomes.
It is why Jesus called us to dwell on His words. Abide in the vine, and He will abide in you and
change you. It is the same as eating good food makes the body strong.
Are you trying to pick here?
Yes I said I dont care about how a min line translated something what matters if it is true to the original text...
So you know or assue what site I get this or that from... Umm breaking news, I read a number of translations and study them, I read the originals and study them, yes I study peoples opinions, some are valid some are not, that has no bearing on what I believe...Yes Jesus and Paul were Jewish? And? Its funny, in this thread I was just told;
So im Jewish, im not Jewish, im this im that... I dont know what to say to this...
Yes I said I dont care about how a min line translated something what matters if it is true to the original text...
So you know or assue what site I get this or that from... Umm breaking news, I read a number of translations and study them, I read the originals and study them, yes I study peoples opinions, some are valid some are not, that has no bearing on what I believe...Yes Jesus and Paul were Jewish? And? Its funny, in this thread I was just told;
So im Jewish, im not Jewish, im this im that... I dont know what to say to this...
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]What is the "mystery of iniquity?"[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 2:6-12, "For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming-- Whose coming is according to the energy of Satan, who works with all power, and signs, and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of sin in those who are perishing, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason, YHWH will send them strong delusion, that they would believe the deception, In order that all those may be judged as not having believed the truth, but as having delighted in sin."[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mystery” is word # G3466 - Mustérion, Strong's Concordance, mustérion: a mystery or secret doctrine, Original Word: μυστήριον, ου, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: mustérion, Phonetic Spelling: (moos-tay'-ree-on), Short Definition: anything hidden, a mystery, Definition: a mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation.[/FONT]
—[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) hidden thing, secret, mystery, 1a) generally mysteries, religious secrets, confided only to the initiated and not to ordinary mortals, 1b) a hidden or secret thing, not obvious to the understanding, 1c) a hidden purpose or counsel, 1c1) secret will, 1c1a) of men, 1c1b) of God: the secret counsels which govern God in dealing with the righteous, which are hidden from ungodly and wicked men but plain to the godly, 3) in rabbinic writings, it denotes the mystic or hidden sense: of an OT saying, of an image or form seen in a vision, of a dream[/FONT]
—[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) From a derivative of μύω [[muo]] (to shut the mouth); a secret or "mystery" (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites):—mystery.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word # G458 - anomia Strong's Concordance, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Thessalonians 2:6-12, "For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming-- Whose coming is according to the energy of Satan, who works with all power, and signs, and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of sin in those who are perishing, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason, YHWH will send them strong delusion, that they would believe the deception, In order that all those may be judged as not having believed the truth, but as having delighted in sin."[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mystery” is word # G3466 - Mustérion, Strong's Concordance, mustérion: a mystery or secret doctrine, Original Word: μυστήριον, ου, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: mustérion, Phonetic Spelling: (moos-tay'-ree-on), Short Definition: anything hidden, a mystery, Definition: a mystery, secret, of which initiation is necessary; in the NT: the counsels of God, once hidden but now revealed in the Gospel or some fact thereof; the Christian revelation generally; particular truths or details of the Christian revelation.[/FONT]
—[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) 1) hidden thing, secret, mystery, 1a) generally mysteries, religious secrets, confided only to the initiated and not to ordinary mortals, 1b) a hidden or secret thing, not obvious to the understanding, 1c) a hidden purpose or counsel, 1c1) secret will, 1c1a) of men, 1c1b) of God: the secret counsels which govern God in dealing with the righteous, which are hidden from ungodly and wicked men but plain to the godly, 3) in rabbinic writings, it denotes the mystic or hidden sense: of an OT saying, of an image or form seen in a vision, of a dream[/FONT]
—[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thayer's (New Testament Greek-English Lexicon) From a derivative of μύω [[muo]] (to shut the mouth); a secret or "mystery" (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites):—mystery.[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]iniquity” is word # G458 - anomia Strong's Concordance, lawlessness, Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]
John/Yahanan 15:5-16, "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, produces much fruit; but without Me, you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away like a branch, and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. If you abide in Me, and letting My words; abide in you, you will ask what you will, and it will be done for you. In this is My Father glorified: when you produce much fruit; and in this way you become My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you; continue in My love. If you keep My Commands, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's Commands, and abide in His love. These things I have spoken to you, that My joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be complete. This is My Command: Love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: that one would lay down his life on behalf of his brothers. You are My brothers, if you do whatever I command you."
Habakkuk 3:19, “יהוה the Master is my strength. And He makes my feet like those of deer, And makes me walk on my high places...”
Matt 19:26, "And looking intently יהושע said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with Yah all is possible.”
Philippians 4:13, "I have strength to do all, through Messiah who empowers me."
2 Timothy 1:7, "For Yah has not given us a spirit of cowardice, but of power and of love and of self-control."
Proverbs 3:5-7, “Trust in יהוה with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; Know Him in all your ways, And He makes all your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear יהוה and turn away from evil.”
Habakkuk 3:19, “יהוה the Master is my strength. And He makes my feet like those of deer, And makes me walk on my high places...”
Matt 19:26, "And looking intently יהושע said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with Yah all is possible.”
Philippians 4:13, "I have strength to do all, through Messiah who empowers me."
2 Timothy 1:7, "For Yah has not given us a spirit of cowardice, but of power and of love and of self-control."
Proverbs 3:5-7, “Trust in יהוה with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; Know Him in all your ways, And He makes all your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear יהוה and turn away from evil.”
Rom.2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
I meant the comment in a good wayHizikyah.
I meant the comment in a good wayHizikyah.