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If people think they are sinless. They are decieved. And they certainly do not know God or of him (they have made up their own God.). Because if they knew God, they would look at their lives and see all their sin, and stop trying to hide it away as if it is not there.

Why people continue to give these people an audience by responding to them, is beyond me..
if you are happy living in the OT, so be it.
I thank God for making a way to live that surpasses continual service to sin.
 

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AMAZING, when SCRIPTURE PROVES YOUR THEOLOGY TO BE WRONG, YOU SAY:

"True for the time it was originally written."


AND THEN YOU INSIST "IT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO ME!"

TOTALLY AMAZING.

YOU HAVE FALLEN FOR THE LIES OF A FALSE PROPHET.

Your Theology is the thin ICE in the following video. Our Theology maintains CONFESSING each new sin we discover in our lives. YOU, however have STOPPED CONFESSING each NEW SIN, instead you remain ignorant of it, or just flat deny it.


1 John 1:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
If He is faithful to forgive us our sins, why can't I say I have no sin?

Even the most wicked man can say he has no sin, until the next sin.
But some of us love God above all else and our neighbor as ourselves.
We walk in the light, God, where there is no sin.
 

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[/B]No. I have not committed any sins since my conversion.
I was "converted" from a sinner to a non-sinner.


I don't see the words "sin" or "hypocrisy" mentioned in Gal 2.
Peter's "blame" stemmed from his giving credence to continued submission to parts of the law that were no longer in effect.
Thousands of other Jews were still using the law in Jerusalem: do you think they were all sinners?


If the sign says, "Don't use hair dryer in the bathtub", do you suppose everyone is doing so?
To infer that all Peter's "brothers" commit sin is erroneous thinking.
If a supposed brother manifests his service to sin, our forgiveness of that man will be his first step into belief, as the sin itself showed he wasn't submitted to God in the first place.


My pride in in God, and His Son Christ Jesus, who has saved me from service to the destroyer of men.
Well there's your problem!! You must be reading a different Bible. Here is Galatians 2, where Paul calls Peter and the other Jews with him HYPOCRITES!

Galatians 2: [FONT=&quot]11 Now when Peter[a] had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; [/FONT][FONT=&quot]12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, FEARING those who were of the circumcision. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you[b] compel Gentiles to live as Jews?[c]15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

So whether intentional or not, you have just lied, and on Scripture! Please tell me how you can now rationalize this lie in your mind.


Not only was Peter being a hypocrite, but he was being untruthful (lying) about the Gospel!! How on earth are you able to twist in your mind that he wasn't sinning!?


Your comment about Jesus telling Peter to forgive brothers who sin is so warped and convoluted I don't think even you are buying it.

I honestly feel for you. You have such a low view of our Lord and His perfection.[/FONT]
 

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The mountain of snow in the following VIDEO, is the mountain of unconfessed sin that buries you, because of the false teaching of your FALSE PROPHET:
Would that false prophet have said..." [FONT=&quot]And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
JESUS answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." (John 8:32-34)
My "Prophet" has freed me from service to sin.[/FONT]
 

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The "humility" is manifested by our submission to God.
Where is the "humility" of those who serve the "flesh"?
Here is "your first public sin" against a believer in Christ. I will ask you again politely, for the 2nd time, "please cease and desist responding to my post's on Christianchat.com.

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3 Days Ago #40813

Re: Not By Works

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That's odd, as I was sanctified when Jesus' blood was applied to me.
Just like the instruments of the temple and the temple itself.


Go peddle your counterfeit gospel elsewhere, I'm done with your sinless perfectionism. I am asking you politely to stop responding to my posts. If you continue with your demeaning and rude comments I will report you to the Moderator's



 
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VCO

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Jesus taught us how to pray.
The Lord’s Prayer.

I just want to ask this question.

Part of his prayer was

Luke 11:4
4 And forgive us our sins,
For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.

If he anticipated that we would never sin why would he tell us to ask God to forgive us of our sins? (note here this question is not to start a discussion on forgiving in order to be forgiven)

Just another question as well.

It has been suggested that God will not listen to a person who sins.

So why would tell us to ask for forgiveness?
Oh didn't you hear him admit that he also believes that certain verses were only applicable to the time period they were written in. Therefore he feels NO CONVICTION, and can continue to feel like he is sinless. No guilt feelings, no confessing, no sins of omission, etc. We lost count of how many Scriptures he contradicts in the Process. His False Prophet did a thorough job on him.
 

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You know many people believe they have no sin and do not need forgiving.. so need for a Saviour.. it seems even then people were trying to deny their sin.. thank GOD for His forgiveness.
If you have been forgiven for your past sins, can't you be free of sin for one minute?
How about one hour, a day?
If you commit sin, God is not your Lord.
You are serving sin. (John 8:32-34)
 

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Yep that is true.
We must be busy going about the will of the Father.

To me Paul was saying that cannot earn salvation by good works. Coming against the Pharisee’s view that works is what God sees. But Paul is saying we are saved in Jesus and justified as a result.

James says that if you have genuine faith then that genuine saving faith will produce good works.

And I think Paul reconciles the two so that there is no confusion.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

To me part of the problem today is leading people to recant the sinners prayer and leaving it at that.

The church really needs to teach what it means to be in Jesus.

Its not just saying the prayer and sitting back and living ones life as before conversion.
But also not to go to the other extreme and tell them now they must be perfect in everything.

I hear you Bill.. but I will say that Christ Himself teaches us lots.. and states we are to be Perfect.. no one can do anything without Faith.. because it is GOD that empowers the believer.. it’s nice we are reasoning together.. and if I come off as exalting myself as perfect and sinless.. thinking I’m more righteous then it should be known that I’m the least and forgiven of much..

By Faith in Christ whom I believe does GOD keep me.. not me keeping myself but through the Holy Spirit guides and comforted and reminded of Truth.. every day a way of Life in Christ as Christ within who said those things I believe and share freely.. I never say I’m perfect and now you go be perfect.. no.. I say believe the Messiah who states those things.. likewise with the Commandments of GOD and loving our enemies.. I don’t propose this.. I believe Him that instructs.. and may many also come to believe and not doubt..

I remember how I was saved from myself.. and it was Amazing Grace of a Gracious GOD. I don’t feign love.. I’m the one forgiven of much.. now my Lord freed me to live as a Child of GOD.. in the beginning I remember being moved a push to go a different direction.. a inner telling me the way.. it is an ongoing Growth in Grace and knowledge of Christ and the believer can do nothing but Repent and believe.. for I and I’m sure you witness that when you call in that hour of despair.. which was a lifetime leading to.. that He does appear and rescue the wandering sinner and He will lead and restore your soul.. when one is loved and forgiven and as nothing to offer.. one does those things that are taught as Loving GOD and each other through the Holy Spirit.. which there is no work that grants this.. no it is by Faith.. and that Faith is perfected by Hearing and doing what the Lord instructs.. which is Faith that worketh by Love. Yes we are to be judged.. but it is better to be under Grace and a doer of the Royal Law than under the law of sin and death that all unbelievers are condemned by.

If we all reflect on today without stating.. you will see the works of Christ.. Love and forgive as we are Loved and forgiven.

p.s I agree about the Lord’s Prayer and encourage all to use it each and every day.

The main thing we must all share is to believe the Messiah first and foremost. Just as Abraham believed..
 

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PJW

Please say this Sinners Prayer to GOD and mean it with your whole heart and being:
Most merciful God, I confess that I am by nature sinful and

unclean. I have sinned against You in thought, word, and deed, by
what I have done and by what I have left undone. I have not
loved you with my whole heart; I have not loved my neighbors as
myself. I justly deserve Your present and eternal punishment.
For the sake of Your Son, Jesus Christ, have mercy on me. Forgive me,
renew me, and lead me, so that I may delight in Your will and walk in
Your ways to the glory of Your Holy Name. Amen
It seems that the entirety of your prayer would lead a man to exactly where I am at.
Forgiven, renewed, and led by God.

Do you think your prayer doesn't work?
 

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Would that false prophet have said..."And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
JESUS answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." (John 8:32-34)
My "Prophet" has freed me from service to sin.
I pointed out severals sins of Omission on your part, plus the sin of causing Strife, and the sin of causing Dissensions, and the sin of causing Factions. And what did you do about it?
 

PennEd

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Oh didn't you hear him admit that he also believes that certain verses were only applicable to the time period they were written in. Therefore he feels NO CONVICTION, and can continue to feel like he is sinless. No guilt feelings, no confessing, no sins of omission, etc. We lost count of how many Scriptures he contradicts in the Process. His False Prophet did a thorough job on him.
This is a good point I hadn't considered, but I think you are dead right. Because he doesn't believe he sins, he can commit ANY sin and justify it in his mind that it isn't sin because he doesn't sin!

A type of sick circular reasoning. I'm not kidding. He is to be pitied. That is messed up thinking.
 

BillG

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If I confess "my" sins, and He cleanses me of all unrighteousness...why can't I say I have no sin?
You argue against yourself.
You can say. And you do say so.

There are others who say they do sin and acknowledge that before God, they confess it (totally different from those who don’t give two hoots about sinning)

You are entitled to your views as are other believers.

Those believers you judge as sinners and more or less say they are going to hell.

If memory serves me it’s Jesus who sits on judgement over people both those who profess faith and those who don’t.

I certainly can’t judge another beleiver.

If as you say you are not sinless is there any reason why I can’t place my faith in you?
Afterall You now place yourself in the judgement seat of Jesus and are perfect to do so.

Why wouldn’t I? I’ve never conversed with Jesus as a physical person like I do with you.

We know Jesus is perfect and also you are saying you are.

Whom do I follow?
You or him?
 

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This is a good point I hadn't considered, but I think you are dead right. Because he doesn't believe he sins, he can commit ANY sin and justify it in his mind that it isn't sin because he doesn't sin!

A type of sick circular reasoning. I'm not kidding. He is to be pitied. That is messed up thinking.
It is a clear warning to all of us, just how dangerous those FALSE PROPHETS that led him astray really are.


Matthew 24:24-25 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] "Behold, I have told you in advance.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

2 Timothy 3:13 (NASB)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

1 Timothy 6:3-5 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions,
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
[SUP]4 [/SUP] and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
 
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If you have been forgiven for your past sins, can't you be free of sin for one minute?
How about one hour, a day?
If you commit sin, God is not your Lord.
You are serving sin. (John 8:32-34)

Pjw I do not willfully sin.. why? Because GOD loves and forgave me of my sin through Faith in His Son my Lord and Saviour.

Our Gracious GOD is my Father through Faith in His Son and I love my Father. I delight in His Commandments because I Love Him.. more than anything.. everyone knows the score I won’t tell my children a lie that I love them more than GOD because it is GOD who taught me what Love is.. and through this Love I can love.. Many would gasp but My First Love is GOD.. and though the Messiah teaches this.. I find it in my Heart as if His Word testifies to that which is within.. rather than the other.. which is the Holy Spirit of Truth.. the same Truth spoken by the Messiah.. a mystery .. not for we believers.. because His Words are life and that life be within all by the power of GOD to those that Repent and Believe.

Here is my thought.. rather than tell everyone you don’t sin.. because we can neither attest or deny.. but Christ will judge you and I as doers of the Royal Law..

Why not share the Love and forgiveness you received.. yes share your hope and point sheep forward to the Good Shepherd so they Hear His voice as you did..

GOD is my Lord and GOD Himself knows if I willfully sin.. for like Bill said we are given our daily prayer and I will not sleep until I pray this.. no boast .. but the Words are part of our daily walk on the path of Righteousness..

Because of Christ’s Victory I’m under Grace at liberty to Love.. Kept by the power of GOD just as many are and undeservedly..
 

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It seems that the entirety of your prayer would lead a man to exactly where I am at.
Forgiven, renewed, and led by God.

Do you think your prayer doesn't work?
NO, it is a prayer that the Lutheran Church (Missouri Synod) recites EVERY SUNDAY, because they realize and understand that the SIN NATURE is in our mortal flesh until the day we DIE.
 

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I hear you Bill.. but I will say that Christ Himself teaches us lots.. and states we are to be Perfect.. no one can do anything without Faith.. because it is GOD that empowers the believer.. it’s nice we are reasoning together.. and if I come off as exalting myself as perfect and sinless.. thinking I’m more righteous then it should be known that I’m the least and forgiven of much..

By Faith in Christ whom I believe does GOD keep me.. not me keeping myself but through the Holy Spirit guides and comforted and reminded of Truth.. every day a way of Life in Christ as Christ within who said those things I believe and share freely.. I never say I’m perfect and now you go be perfect.. no.. I say believe the Messiah who states those things.. likewise with the Commandments of GOD and loving our enemies.. I don’t propose this.. I believe Him that instructs.. and may many also come to believe and not doubt..

I remember how I was saved from myself.. and it was Amazing Grace of a Gracious GOD. I don’t feign love.. I’m the one forgiven of much.. now my Lord freed me to live as a Child of GOD.. in the beginning I remember being moved a push to go a different direction.. a inner telling me the way.. it is an ongoing Growth in Grace and knowledge of Christ and the believer can do nothing but Repent and believe.. for I and I’m sure you witness that when you call in that hour of despair.. which was a lifetime leading to.. that He does appear and rescue the wandering sinner and He will lead and restore your soul.. when one is loved and forgiven and as nothing to offer.. one does those things that are taught as Loving GOD and each other through the Holy Spirit.. which there is no work that grants this.. no it is by Faith.. and that Faith is perfected by Hearing and doing what the Lord instructs.. which is Faith that worketh by Love. Yes we are to be judged.. but it is better to be under Grace and a doer of the Royal Law than under the law of sin and death that all unbelievers are condemned by.

If we all reflect on today without stating.. you will see the works of Christ.. Love and forgive as we are Loved and forgiven.

p.s I agree about the Lord’s Prayer and encourage all to use it each and every day.

The main thing we must all share is to believe the Messiah first and foremost. Just as Abraham believed..
Its good to reason after all God said the same himself

Isaiah 1:18-19
18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the Lord,
“Though your sins are like scarlet,
They shall be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They shall be as wool.
19 If you are willing and obedient,
You shall eat the good of the land;

For me I am willing to reason with God, actually it’s the reverse.
He will reason with me.
I ain’t got a problem with that.

He knows best. I will go with that and trust him.

Good response loveme1
 
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The problem is not the matter of believing these scriptures. The problem is thinking these scriptures make grace a license to sin, which many in the church think.
Exactly. Notice a continuing habit of many to skip over major verses to get to the parts that matter to them. I want to back up to one rarely admitted. 1 John 1:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


From that I can't justify having to ask forgiveness over and over until Jesus returns, while claiming I was saved on day one of my salvation that the blood cleansed/cleanses my sins no matter what I do as long as I confess it. Instead, I should not now be walking in (living in, preoccupied with) sin instead of walking about in the mode of righteousness (right-standing with God). However, I am still walking on this earth pressed by many temptations, such that if I do sin, such as not forgive someone who offends me, it will be forgiven me.

Since the blood of Jesus cleansed me when first meeting Him that glorious day I found myself in Christ, how can I make a new demand on that holy blood to pass me through while living a life of sin that requires asking for forgiveness from the Lord who only once shed that blood? Once cleansed, may I wallow in the mire again and again while pleasing the Lord? Not according to scriptures.

Once in Christ I must rise above what demons do. James 2:19-24 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
[SUP]21 [/SUP] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Demons were present at Calvary
as much as encountering Jesus during his ministry years. They knew, but rebelled without excuse. How can I do like they do, to know yet walk in darkness, still a sinner, claiming to be saved by grace and living a life in constant need of forgiveness?

Live the life Jesus died for to make us free to live. Get busy doing what Peter commanded us to do to make our calling and election sure so we can get on with living by faith, doing Jesus' commandments by the power of that faith we got from God through believing and repenting. For us sind ought to steadily decrease as we do those things instead.
 

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VCO.. If a man states he repented and believes... and does not sin.. what is it to you to call Him a sinner? We each come before Christ to be judged of what we did while in the body.

2 Corinthians 5

6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7(For we walk by faith, not by sight 8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.


seek increase from GOD?
Matthew 4:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.


Matthew 3:1-2 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Luke 13:3 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] No, I tell you; but unless you repent, you will all perish as well!


Acts 17:30 (HCSB)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] “Therefore, having overlooked the times of ignorance, God now commands all people everywhere to repent,

Acts 2:38 (HCSB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] “Repent,” Peter said to them, “and be baptized, each of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Acts 3:19 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Therefore repent and turn back, so that your sins may be wiped out, that seasons of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,

Acts 8:22 (HCSB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

Acts 26:20 (HCSB)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Instead, I preached to those in Damascus first, and to those in Jerusalem and in all the region of Judea, and to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works worthy of repentance.


Are you suggesting that we should not call people to REPENTANCE, when their sin is obvious? Sorry, but I will follow the eamples of Christ and the Apostles.
 

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I am full aware of your preaching. I just don't believe the Holy Spirit gives you different instructions that it gives everybody else. And given Jesus said we live by Every Word of God, I would be suspect of a spirit who tells me to do something different than that very Word of God Jesus taught us to live by, instructs. I believe this is why we are instructed also in this same written Word of God to "test the spirits".

Comprende?
Where in the scripture would I find the instruction to go up to the front of my son's classroom and speak about the love of God on Valentines Day?

Or where will I see the unction of Holy Spirit to come on me in the written Word, and prophesy to the church? Only Holy Spirit speaks and moves this way.

Comprende?

Or are you not Pentecostal? That could explain a lot.

I am not saying either that we don't walk by the written Word, but we hear which Word we need within too. And there is such a thing as the rhema Word. Plus Holy Spirit leads us through the Scriptures and gives revelation of the Word.

Otherwise it is just line upon line, precept upon precept. Here a little, there a little. It's very interesting to read this scripture in Isaiah from the Amplified Bible. :)
 
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Pjw I do not willfully sin.. why? Because GOD loves and forgave me of my sin through Faith in His Son my Lord and Saviour.

Our Gracious GOD is my Father through Faith in His Son and I love my Father. I delight in His Commandments because I Love Him.. more than anything.. everyone knows the score I won’t tell my children a lie that I love them more than GOD because it is GOD who taught me what Love is.. and through this Love I can love.. Many would gasp but My First Love is GOD.. and though the Messiah teaches this.. I find it in my Heart as if His Word testifies to that which is within.. rather than the other.. which is the Holy Spirit of Truth.. the same Truth spoken by the Messiah.. a mystery .. not for we believers.. because His Words are life and that life be within all by the power of GOD to those that Repent and Believe.

Here is my thought.. rather than tell everyone you don’t sin.. because we can neither attest or deny.. but Christ will judge you and I as doers of the Royal Law..

Why not share the Love and forgiveness you received.. yes share your hope and point sheep forward to the Good Shepherd so they Hear His voice as you did..

GOD is my Lord and GOD Himself knows if I willfully sin.. for like Bill said we are given our daily prayer and I will not sleep until I pray this.. no boast .. but the Words are part of our daily walk on the path of Righteousness..

Because of Christ’s Victory I’m under Grace at liberty to Love.. Kept by the power of GOD just as many are and undeservedly..
This may sound a bit weird.
But the Lords prayser is so refreshing and so releasing.

My prayer life used to be come before God, tell him about my sin, with guilt attached and condemnation.
After a few minutes would stop because condemnation overwhelmed me.

When I researched the Lord’s Prayer and focused on the format that Jesus gave it totally changed my perception of God and my prayer life.

Rather than focus on my sin to start with I focused on him.

My Father, you are great Oh I wish your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven.
Praising him for his creation and it’s beauty.
I then found myself praying for all things of the world.
And his will be done here.
Focused on people who I knew were struggling, hurting, wanting and needing, in all things physically and spiritually.

Then i noticed when I got to forgive me my sins I poured them all out, confessed them and asked for help.
To my amazement I found myself saying “Thank you that I am forgiven” what a release for me.
God forgives me. (just so all know that I don’t use that as an excuse to sin, I hate my sin with a passion and so does God, that’s why he sent Jesus to bring us back to him and help us)

When I focused on him and not me I have got to see just a glimpse of my Father.

I know very little of Agape love but God is Agape.
That is what I seek after.

I encourage us all to do the same.