Why didn’t Jesus ever say anything about the grace of God?

[Snoozy]

Sagart are u one of the "Jesus' words only" christians? or matthew's gospel only?

 

[preacher4truth]

Why didn’t Jesus ever say anything about the grace of God?

Well, the OP certainly isn't loaded with false ammo nor is it/he begging the question.

He is the grace of God; John 1:14. For one example of this look at the thief on the cross; Luke 23:39-43. If one cannot see this then one needs to take a closer gander and understand perhaps why Paul speaks much of this grace; 1 Corinthians 15:10 &c.

To take the OP to its illogical end, it is telling us that this grace of God has not yet been experienced, nor should any person expect to experience it, because according to the OP author, it isn't the gospel message.

 

[Marcelo]

.....when he (Jesus) was asked by men what they must do to “inherit eternal life”, He replied,

Mark 10:19. “You know the commandments, ‘DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.’”
20. And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up.”
21. Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

Luke 10:26. And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?”
27. And he answered, “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”
28. And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”

However, Paul wrote,

Eph. 2:98. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9. not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Did Paul teach a different gospel?

Jesus in flesh preached during the dispensation of the law of Moses, whereas the resurrected Jesus (in spirit) preached during the dispensation of grace.

Before the cross Jesus preached salvation through righteousness, and after the cross (through the apostle Paul) He preached unmerited salvation through faith and grace.

P.S.: UNMERITED SALVATION doesn't mean we don't need any good work nor sanctification (good works and sanctification will follow as a consequence of grace).

 

[Willie-T]

He might not have said the word ‘grace’, but many things He said meant grace. But grace did not actually come about until Christ purchased His church with His blood- which leaves only a tiny window of opportunity before His accention, to say the actual word.

Sadly, many people seem to need to see specific words literally spelled out in the Bible. They seem incapable of seeing something like Jesus' interaction with the woman caught in adultery, or His acceptance of the woman at the well as "grace" and "mercy." (Maybe it is the curse of "Literalism.")

 

[Snoozy]

Sadly, many people seem to need to see specific words literally spelled out in the Bible. They seem incapable of seeing something like Jesus' interaction with the woman caught in adultery, or His acceptance of the woman at the well as "grace" and "mercy." (Maybe it is the curse of "Literalism.")

according to your expert buddies that story aint even in the original manuscripts. aint it funny how that story is still in the bible cause folks like it? regardless of "textual criticism"

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I dunno

He did tell Paul that His grace was sufficient for him

I would file this thread under 'what on earth?..????? you are kidding, right?'

perhaps this type of op is created when folks cannot sleep at night and the mind wanders........

 

[Willie-T]

according to your expert buddies that story aint even in the original manuscripts. aint it funny how that story is still in the bible cause folks like it? regardless of "textual criticism"

But, neither you nor I actually, by personal observation, know if it is, or if it isn't in the original text. Yet that doesn't seem to stop us from believing God got the Bible to us just the way He intended it to be.

 

[garee]

Jesus in flesh preached during the dispensation of the law of Moses, whereas the resurrected Jesus (in spirit) preached during the dispensation of grace.

Before the cross Jesus preached salvation through righteousness, and after the cross (through the apostle Paul) He preached unmerited salvation through faith and grace.

P.S.: UNMERITED SALVATION doesn't mean we don't need any good work nor sanctification (good works and sanctification will follow as a consequence of grace).

He preached it beforehand. The demonstration as to the first resurrection (the graves were open) is the glory that followed.

Its the same grace we freely receive through his work of faith, as a labor of His love as that by which we are saved by.They were given the faith to believe God to look ahead to the cross we are given the same faith of Christ to look back.

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1Pe 1:9

 

[joaniemarie]

Every time Christ told people He WAS THE ONLY WAY to Salvation, and that HE came to suffer and die for the sins of man, and HAD THE POWER to forgive the sins of man,

HE SPOKE OF THE GRACE OF GOD.

What the heck do you think Gods Grace IS?

Oh, I see, a legalist...........He didn't specifically USE the word grace, so He NEVER spoke of it.........

good grief.............

Many true believers have no idea what the word "grace" in the Bible really means. Undeserved un merited love and favor. David didn't even get the grace that we today have under the new covenant. David got major mercy big time. But the full grace of God IN Christ was not there yet like today under this covenant. David was a man after God's own heart but still not in the new covenant where all his sins were forgiven and forgotten. God remembered David's sins and David still had to pay for them via the judgment set on his family and his life. There was mercy but not the kind of grace that came after the cross of Christ.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why didn’t Jesus ever say anything about the grace of God?

Since the Bible says that grace and truth came by Jesus Christ, He Himself was the living embodiment of the grace of God. He did not need to say the word because He expressed grace in word and deed.

 

[loveme1]

The Lord is the Grace of GOD.. every word.. every action.. is of our Gracious GOD...

 

[stillness]

Must think the question valid to give an answer:
"He did not say anything to them without using a parable."
There is hidden meaning in everything God sais to us, "Now we know in part."
"If any man thinks He knows he does not know as he should."
Had Jesus spoken plainly like his disciples requested, they and we would think we know, when in fact "The natural man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God.
Our old nature has to die daily in the fellowship of His suffering for us to get past our understanding and see Grace more than unmerited favor of a loving God, who Loves us to much to leave us the way we are: We would think we know, in our lukewarm state, in the affluence we are in, Revelations 3:15 and a time of trouble such as never was is upon us, because there is no other way than to follow Jesus in his suffering to know God's influence: Grace. Howbeit Jesus spoke of Grace much between the lines, as others mentioned also. Telling us to pick up the cross daily and follow Him, when it's something we actually cant do without the influence of His Spirit as Grace. "All of you will forsake me this night." If we think we can achieve (like Peter), we dont see our need. A religious world desiring to prove themselves to God, while building for themselves does not comprehend.

 

[Issachar92]

Although the writers of the synoptic gospel never used the word in their gospels, John used it three times—but never in reference to salvation. In the “record about Jesus and his life,” He never used the word. Therefore, the ‘gospel of Christ’ has nothing at all to do with grace. Indeed, when he was asked by men what they must do to “inherit eternal life”, He replied,

Mark 10:19. “You know the commandments, ‘DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.’”
20. And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up.”
21. Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

Luke 10:26. And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?”
27. And he answered, “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”
28. And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”

However, Paul wrote,

Eph. 2:98. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9. not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Did Paul teach a different gospel?

Nah Paul taught the same gospel.

Folks just misinterpret Ephesians 2:8-9 and make it contradict the entire rest of the bible.
He is talking about the works of the law like circumcision and other jewish ceremonial laws (acts 15:1) which was a big controversy at the time with the judaizers.
Thats why it looks like theres a contradiction.

Compare Romans 2:6-7 to John 5:28-29

 

[pottersclay]

G ods R iches A t C hrist E xpence ........He is God's grace.

 

[valiant]

God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, thereby revealing His grace.

 

[pottersclay]

God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, thereby revealing His grace.

Excellent saint, Jesus is God's work that he rested in in Genesis. The grace of God for all man kind. Taking away the sins of the world not just blotting out. A gift to all.
Even while we were yet sinners Christ died for us how gracious is that? By grace you are saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift from God.

 

[gotime]

Why didn’t Jesus ever say anything about the grace of God?

He did often. The fact that you think he did not would tell me you don't understand grace. Once you do you will see he taught it constantly.

 

[beta]

He is the grace of God, the embodiment of His mercy, God Himself graciously dwelling among us, forgiving our sin and blessing all who call on His name. so He was, and is saying things about His grace all the time!

"I have called you friends"​

Agree ! this is what I was going to post. Yahshua/Jesus IS our Grace ! HE is our pardon from the death-penalty...to give us breathing-space to be newly created this time in 'righteousness and true holiness ! HE is here to correct and convert/transform us so we can share eternity with the Father in HIs Kingdom.

 

[beta]

But, neither you nor I actually, by personal observation, know if it is, or if it isn't in the original text. Yet that doesn't seem to stop us from believing God got the Bible to us just the way He intended it to be.

Yes, iut might just help Him to 'sift people.

 

[jaybird88]

Although the writers of the synoptic gospel never used the word in their gospels, John used it three times—but never in reference to salvation. In the “record about Jesus and his life,” He never used the word. Therefore, the ‘gospel of Christ’ has nothing at all to do with grace. Indeed, when he was asked by men what they must do to “inherit eternal life”, He replied,

Mark 10:19. “You know the commandments, ‘DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.’”
20. And he said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these things from my youth up.”
21. Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, “One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

Luke 10:26. And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?”
27. And he answered, “YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND; AND YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”
28. And He said to him, “You have answered correctly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”

However, Paul wrote,

Eph. 2:98. For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9. not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Did Paul teach a different gospel?

i dont think Paul taught a different gospel, i think man came along many years later and taught a different gospel than Jesus and Paul. mankind is good at this.