Nehemiah6
Hello N6,
It looks like you should have quoted actual Calvinists, rather than misrepresent the view
lets investigate...
Everyone believes they have truth. You believe you have truth or you would not post it. You start out poisoning the well suggesting this strange thought as to what Calvinists believe.
This statement as you intend it is off track...we will show this quite simply.
Everyone other than a heretical universalist .."limits" the atonement.
Do you believe that atonement was made for satan or fallen angels?
Do you believe everyone is going to be saved?
This is a falsehood. Most people resist the truth of limited atonement, or particular redemption.
If a person understands the fall...their theology will have much error.
If I show you this, will you then accuse me of thinking I only have a correct theology?
All five points stand together but the key is the T.....total depravity. Dead men, spiritual corpses can be religious but CANNOT understand the things of God 1cor2:14, romans 8:7
It is God..in mercy loving amultitude of sinners in Christ before the world was, and allowing the rest to be passed over .
okay
(A) JOHN CALVIN (famous Reformer)
“It is often stated—and with considerable propriety—that Calvin did not write an explicit treatment concerning the extent of the atonement, in fact did not deal with this precise issue in the terms to which Reformed theology has been accustomed. It must be owned, of course, that the question had received some attention before Calvin. Notably Gottschalk in the ninth century had given express support to definite atonement and the scholastics had discussed the topic and advanced a partial resolution in asserting that Christ’s death was “sufficient for all men and efficient for the elect.” Calvin alludes to and endorses this distinction but views it as insufficient for a proper analysis of 1 John 2:2. Nevertheless a full discussion of the scope of the atonement is not found in Calvin’s writings, and the assessment of his position in this area has been varied.”
http://www.apuritansmind.com/arminianism/john-calvins-view-of-limited-atonement/
okay...but no one other than you says it is an error so far.
[/I][/COLOR]good quotes...very true.
no...not even close.
well..lets see what you've got
are you saying all men...will indeed be saved?
Good verse...but are you saying all men will be saved? Jesus accomplished a complete and finished salvation . he actually seeks and SAVES those he came to save. he did not make them potentially saveable, but He accomplished redemption.;
2 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Stay tuned for pt2