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Do you mean the ones talking about breaking God's Law (10 commandments)
1 JOHN 3 [3] And every man that hath this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure. [4] Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW sin is the transgression of the law. [5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. [6] WHOSOEVER ABIDES IN HIM SINS NOT: WHOSOEVER SINS HAS NEITHER SEEN HIM OR KNOWS HIM. [7] LITTLE CHILDREN LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU: HE THAT DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS. [8] HE THAT COMMITS SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; THE DEVIL SINS FROM THE BEGINNING. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9], WHOSOEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. [10] IN THIS THE CHILDREN OF GOD ARE MANIFEST, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: WHOSOEVER DOES NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD, neither he that loves not his brother.
if you keep reading in the 3rd chapter of John's first letter, he says in v. 23 that the commands of God are- believe in the Son and love one another. not the Law of Moses.
Hi gb9, did you not pick up my point? The CONTEXT of v 23 is that SIN is breaking God's Commandments v4. His followers do not practice SIN. Those that do practice SIN are not GOd's followers. Why are we talking about God's Law (10 commandments)? You cannot separate LOVE from GOD's LAW (10 commandments.
v.15 Shows what we are talking about with LOVE and HATE and uses MURDER as an example of hate (thou shalt not kill; 6th commandment
Exodus 20:13)
It's all about the CONTEXT not PLUCKING up scripture out of nowhere let's compare scripture with scripture............
You cannot separate God’s Law of love from the 10 commandments because they are connected to each other. There is no need for confusion here. God’s Word makes it very clear.
Let's have a look................................................
What does Jesus say when he talk about the commandments. Jesus is quoting from Old testament scriptures of
Deuteronomy 6:5 and Leviticus 19:18.................
Matthew 22
36, Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38, This is the first and great commandment.
39, And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40, ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS HANG ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS.
Let's get clearer......................................................
Matthew 19
16, And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
1 7, And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: BUT IF YOU WILL ENTER INTO LIFE KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.
18, He saith unto him, WHICH? JESUS SAID, THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, HONOR YOU MOTHER AND FATHER AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
20, The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21, Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. <Jesus showed him that he may have fulfilled His duty of love to his neighbor but not to God breaking commandment 1 and 2 loving riches more than God>
Well Jesus makes it very clear that what he is talking about it is the 10 commandments of God's Law.
What about James................................................................
James 2
8, If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF, ye do well:
9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10, FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL KEEP THE WHOLE LAW AND YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, HE SHALL BE GUILTY OF ALL.
11, FOR HE THAT SAID, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY SAID ALSO DO NOT KILL. NOW IF YOU DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY AND YOU KILL, YOU HAVE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW.
12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Well James makes it very clear what he is talking about when he talks about the Royal Law of love. He is talking about the 10 commandments. So Jesus and James both agree that they are talking about God's 10 commandments which also include the 4th commandment which is one of the ten.
What about Paul? He wrote a lot of books in God's Word...........................
Romans 13
8, Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for HE THAT LOVES ANOTHER HAS FULFILLED THE LAW.
9, For this, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, THOU SHALT NOT KILL, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, THOU SHALT NOT LIE, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and IF THERE SHALL BE ANY OTHER COMMANDMENT, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
10, Love works no ill to his neighbour: therefore LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.
Paul makes it very clear what he is talking about as well when he is talking about God's Law. It seems like Jesus, James and Paul all agree together what it is they are referring to when talking about God's Law. They are all referring to God's 10 commandments which includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:1-17)
So now that God's Word shows us what it is referring to. No need to guess, what are talking about, God’s Law of Love is God's 10 commandments. It is only through Faith that works by love that anyone can walk in the Spirit which produces the fruit of obedience because love is the fulfilling of God’s Law in those that walk by faith and not by sight.
If we break any of God’s Laws we stand guilty before God in SIN (
James 2:11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4; Romans 3:20). This includes the 4th commandment which is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:8-11)
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men everywhere to repent (
Acts 17:30-31). God's Word says if we break one of the ten we stand guilty before God of breaking all the commandments of God (
James 2:8-12). God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (
Exodus 20:8-11) and if we break it like any of the other commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN (
Exodus 20:1-17).
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (
Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (
Hebrews 10:26-27; 31)
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
