Your are right, it does not.
But to some I think they think it does (if we deny him, or stop believing in him we lose salvation)
I believe people internalize the Bible different ways and that will usually determine their beliefs and convictions.
If they believe they are being led by the Holy Spirit into all truth and internalize things different than other people then their convictions and beliefs might be different from other people. This is not meant to overlook or excuse genuine false teaching, but honestly speaking, thats what the mods/admins of the site are for.
I look at this thread/debate from a person who was raised in a Christian home, but lived in defiant rebellion and disobedience and was unsaved and in the world and very close to the occult for many years, until the Holy Spirit got a hold of me and convicted me for my need for a Savior by showing me the goodness of God.
I am sad to report that some who say you are Christian look more like the world in your replies, than anyone I would call a brother.
Harsh words I know, so let me season it with some grace.
I think honestly we need to all remember something very important. We are all on a chat board and on the internet. It does no good to project our beliefs on anyone else. We can discuss beliefs but at the end of the day, not one person here has any spiritual authority over another. Some of the valid arguments on this thread and others are valid, but really carry no weight, Because we are not in person. Maybe its different for you, but as I said on a public post to dcon. I do not take friend requests on chat boards. It should not break fellowship. I really do not know who you people are and really besides talking, learning, reading and inputting here, I see no long term bromances budding, etc.
When our emotions start taking over discussion it might be wise to take a time out, regroup, log off for awhile and cool down.
When we start projecting our personal convictions onto others we are violating Romans 14.
I am not picking on poster VCO, but really brother, how on earth would you be able to discern someone's eternal condition via what they post on a chat board?
Bible discussion should remain discussion not aggressive non-negotiations with light sabers. While there may be some who visit here and get the truth, the only thing I see is people called Christians in name only, fighting about some dude called Jesus and how he saves you and if you disagree name calling and very hostile actions the world would never engage in take place.
I think this thread should stay in place and be what it seeks to be and less of a battle ground. The call to remove the thread is censorship and nothing is solved by censoring each other. I see a lot of good keeping this thread alive and would urge posters to use some wisdom and common sense. If you want to discuss your personal convictions and beliefs and they are counter to the OP's start a different thread and invite like minded people to discuss it with you, stop derails on an OP and that goes for everyone. If oyu don't beleive in tongues then do nto feel it is your obligated duty to shut down those that do.
The BDF is not point /counter point to me. I see posters all over other threads making very valid points about the way, the truth and the life, that do not post in this thread or very rarely in the BDF because it is obvious that there are many teachers with fiefdoms and cliques but few honest, meaningful discussions.
Ok sorry and this was not directed at the OP, DCON or you or anyone in particular, but maybe all of us should view what we are contributing in light of the world.
I have to also say this. Those who were or are entrenched in the occult can and do see past a lot of super spiritual things that are passed off that are not real Bible knowledge.
Ok so long answer hope nobody gets hurt or offended, just peace people.
PS:
I also think the cliques on this site are for the birds.
