Joyce Meyer

[followjesus]

Paul was not sent from the Most High, Paul was not the Christ, Paul was not a prophet of the Most High and there are no prophesies about the coming of Paul. He was st Paul, a great teacher, a contemporary of the 12. why not accept that and be happy with it, why the need to elevate him to something else?

romans 1 "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,......Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4And declared to bethe Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:5By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:


apostles were messengers of the lord sent into the world with His word matthew 28:18-20, paul is a hero of faith, but He is noithing more and nothing less than a servant of the Lord, a messenger of the Lords Word, and a witness of Jesus Christ to the World

 

[preacher4truth]

And those some ppl are as clueless Alicia Silverstone.

You're dealing with jaybird who is the local denier of Christ's deity. Of course there are many other errors.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Paul was not sent from the Most High,

Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father,[Galatians 1:1a]

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,[1 Timothy 1:1]

Yes he was sent by God, was a chosen vessel to preach the Christ to the Gentiles. But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleased[SUP] [/SUP]to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,[Galatians 1:15,16a]


“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."[Matthew 22:29]

 

[preacher4truth]

Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father,[Galatians 1:1a]

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,[1 Timothy 1:1]

Yes he was sent by God, was a chosen vessel to preach the Christ to the Gentiles. But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleasedto reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,[Galatians 1:15,16a]


“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."[Matthew 22:29]

Still can't rep you but that is just wonderful brother!!!

 

[FrankLee]

Her words, some of them, are good. As is usual with those in her place she has become wealthy through the donations. It never fails but they as she, become addicted to the cash and has built lavish mansions and a multi million dollar compound of structures.

Ezekiel 34:7-8 KJVS
Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the Lord ; [8] As I live, saith the Lord God , surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;

Brother Paul the apostle sewed rough camel hides together to earn money. Then we see J. M. with her toe nails covered with jewels! What's wrong with that picture? Plenty. No TV "plant your seed here" preachers for me.

The real ministers of God are giving their lives to the poor in the darkest places of the earth. Their names are u k own but to God and those they serve. They've never had a TV camera on them but their righteousness is as the stars to shine forever.

Starting from harsh beginnings does not entitle one to feed themselves from God's needy flock.

 

[jaybird88]

Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father,[Galatians 1:1a]

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,[1 Timothy 1:1]

Yes he was sent by God, was a chosen vessel to preach the Christ to the Gentiles. But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleasedto reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,[Galatians 1:15,16a]


“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."[Matthew 22:29]

when i say sent i mean sent in the way the Father sent His Son, if you want to use those passages to teach that Paul was sent in the exact same way Jesus was thats your own opinion but its not what i believe and i dont think Paul would ever teach such things.
millions of preachers have been called to teach.

 

[jaybird88]

You're dealing with jaybird who is the local denier of Christ's deity. Of course there are many other errors.

i have always believed Jesus was divine.

 

[MarcR]

Although I certainly believe Joyce Meyers can be a preacher/teacher, as I have repeatedly shown from Scripture, I think there are some VERY important points in these articles.

First, her soteriology is wrong. We are not saved because Jesus paid for our sins in hell. The Bible is so clear that Jesus paid for our sins on the cross. That is the atonement. In fact, a good case can be made, espeically in Greek, that Jesus did NOT go to hell at all. That is a Word Faith fiction.

So, that affects Christiology, again a core doctrine.

So, she gets wrong "how" we are saved, and "who" Jesus is! That is the definition of heresy.

Finally, I firmly believe that Word Faith itself is heretical, and she is a Word Faith teacher. In that regard, she is no different than men teachers like Hagen, Copeland, Hinny, or the hypergrace offshoot - Joseph Prince. There is no free pass for men to be heretics, either.

In fact, I read quite a bit about her. Some of her wrong doctrines were laid out in her books back in the 1990's. I read a book where an individual wrote a book on various people propagating Word Faith heresies, asking her if she had changed her views on the atonement. In fact, he wrote her repeatedly, he was a big name, told her he was going to write a book, and wanted current information. He also contacted her office. He never got a reply, one way or the other. So, he included her heresies in his book.

In the end, to me, when your foundational doctrines of faith are wrong, you are leading people astray. She may have a great testimony. She may have helped a lot of people. I think that is undeniable, from this thread. BUT, she is unrepentant in her false doctrines, and is leading people astray.

That is why I would avoid Joyce Meyers at all cost.

I never noticed those beliefs in my very limited exposure to her teaching.

However I respect you enough to take your word for it.. I will stop posting that her teaching is sound.

 

[dcontroversal]

Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father,[Galatians 1:1a]

Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope,[1 Timothy 1:1]

Yes he was sent by God, was a chosen vessel to preach the Christ to the Gentiles. But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by his grace, was pleasedto reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles,[Galatians 1:15,16a]


“You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God."[Matthew 22:29]

It is mind blowing that one who names Jesus, claims to be saved and that has boasted of their many year of study--->would turn around and diss the words of Paul and say that they are not inspired doctrine and or teaching.......when it is clear that 99.5% of what he wrote was given by direct Revelation and his ministry to the Gentiles is proven by his conversion on the road to Damascus and what Jesus said about Paul....

When supposed saved children of God start openly rejecting the words of Paul as the words of God.....it speaks volumes is all I will say........shakes head at the ignorance....!

 

[Snoozy]

Excellent point. Some of what Paul wrote was his own opinion based on his own personal preference and bias. The key words are as you pointed out, "I do not permit...". Does not say that God does not permit.

how poorly do u guys read? this is just another excuse to make the bible fit to today's society. thats all it is.
the same paul who wrote 1 timothy 2:12 also wrote 1 corinthians

1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

in that context its also clear.

any more loopholes? i wouldnt be hard on u guys if u would just admit u dont go the bible. after that its fine. but if u say to go by the bible and keep saying it dont mean what it says i will call it like i see it.

 

[Willie-T]

I would like to state a couple of facts that are evident from our posts... and then ask a question.

Most of the men here are not as smart as the majority of the women posting. It is evident on here everyday.

So, where do we get off trying to claim that God somehow ordered that women are to shut up, and only ask their husbands questions? Never to ever dare to point out things in Scripture to a man. Hey, Paul wrote exactly that, and some of you swear those words are commands directly from God.

God also told Timothy to hit the wine to settle his stomach. Is that another of God's commands?

 

[Snoozy]

I would like to state a couple of facts that are evident from our posts... and then ask a question.

Most of the men here are not as smart as the majority of the women posting. It is evident on here everyday.

So, where do we get off trying to claim that God somehow ordered that women are to shut up, and only ask their husbands questions? Never to ever dare to point out things in Scripture to a man. Hey, Paul wrote exactly that, and some of you swear those words are commands directly from God.

God also told Timothy to hit the wine to settle his stomach. Is that another of God's commands?

where do we get off..... we get that from the bible. it says it clearly in 1 tim 2:12 and 1 corinthians 14:33-36. u got a problem with paul.

i like the way u call us dumb for quoting what the bible clearly says.
atleast we can read.

just admit it. u dont care what paul said. thats ok with me dont worry i dont get offended.
thats what joyce meyer is good for, lifecoaching.

u are just trying to make the bible fit ur 2017 feminist agenda thats all it is. thats why u are here saying men here are so dumb. ironic since ur a man too so wwhy should i listen to u? u know nothing.

 

[Bladerunner]

Joyce Meyers is a simple lover of SELF. This what she preaches to a culture of 'self-lovers'. Jesus tells us in 2 Tim 3:2 that Self-Love is at the top of HIS list NOT to do.

2Ti 3:2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, KJV

2Ti 3:2
For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, NKJV

I included NKJV for those who would deny the word of GOD in the KJV.

I have also included a video of Joyce Meyers doing what she does. The video contains rebuttals from a number of different pastors.

True Christians will enjoy it and wellllllllllll Snowflakes won't!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7refoiewVk

 

[Willie-T]

where do we get off..... we get that from the bible. it says it clearly in 1 tim 2:12 and 1 corinthians 14:33-36. u got a problem with paul.

i like the way u call us dumb for quoting what the bible clearly says.
atleast we can read.

just admit it. u dont care what paul said. thats ok with me dont worry i dont get offended.
thats what joyce meyer is good for, lifecoaching.

u are just trying to make the bible fit ur 2017 feminist agenda thats all it is. thats why u are here saying men here are so dumb. ironic since ur a man too so wwhy should i listen to u? u know nothing.

You gave my wife the best laugh she has had in months. (After she managed to struggle through the text you left as a post.) She howled at the thought of me having "a Feminist Agenda." She knows I absolutely detest everything about the Feminist Movement.

 

[notuptome]

Ya know, a very laughable thing is that with every word that Paul wrote about "Scripture", he was speaking of the Old Testament. He was simply writing letters to churches and individuals. That's all they were when he wrote them. He was NOT calling his own letters, Scripture.

Psst a little hint for you. Paul was writing under the hand of the Holy Spirit. Paul was not just dashing off a fund raising letter to his peeps.

You're circling the drain.

Mt 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.


For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Willie-T]

Joyce Meyers is a simple lover of SELF. This what she preaches to a culture of 'self-lovers'. Jesus tells us in 2 Tim 3:2 that Self-Love is at the top of HIS list NOT to do.
2Ti 3:2
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, KJV
2Ti 3:2
For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, NKJV
I included NKJV for those who would deny the word of GOD in the KJV.
I have also included a video of Joyce Meyers doing what she does. The video contains rebuttals from a number of different pastors.
True Christians will enjoy it and wellllllllllll Snowflakes won't!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7refoiewVk

A pathetic little man, posting yet another chopped-up hate video. You don't like her? Fine. But, try to learn how to be a man, and post all of what she says in her talks. This kind of hit-piece is sleazy, and beneath contempt.

 

[Snoozy]

willie u are defending the one world religion for sure.

here is a simple refutation of ur false statement that paul was just writing letters to churches and thats all they were, they were never scriptures or anything:

1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

u really hate the context of that verse.

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

here Peter talks about paul's letters and says peopel twist them(as u guys are doing as we speak) as they do other SCRIPTURES! therefore including Paul's letters as scripture.

now u have to throw out peter as well. which u might as well since peter agrees with paul's stance. u would know this if u did some crossreferencing.

 

[Willie-T]

Psst a little hint for you. Paul was writing under the hand of the Holy Spirit. Paul was not just dashing off a fund raising letter to his peeps.
You're circling the drain.
Mt 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
For the cause of Christ
Roger

Are you denying Paul was speaking about the OT when he spoke of "Scripture?"

Not a single one of his hearers had anything else.... Nothing but the Jewish OT Scriptures.

 

[oldethennew]

there is so much more to Paul than could ever be written -

and by the way, those of us who know Will, know his heart,
is as precious as his acts of 'good-works'...
it is obvious many here don't have a clue or care to...

 

[Mercy4u]

Titus 1:3

New American Standard Bible
but at the proper time manifested, even His word, in the proclamation with which I was entrusted according to the commandment of God our Savior,

1Cor 14:37

New American Standard Bible
If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord's commandment.