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No more so than you are inferring that what Paul wrote was not scripture. From the OT Paul and the other apostles preached Jesus as the Messiah promised to Israel by Jehovah God.
Jesus taught from the OT scriptures and testified of Himself.
The OT is seeing through the glass darkly but now the NT is revealing Jesus Christ as Messiah God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Jesus taught from the OT scriptures and testified of Himself.
The OT is seeing through the glass darkly but now the NT is revealing Jesus Christ as Messiah God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Not a single word was not under the absolute control of the Holy Spirit. It is utter foolishness to undermine the integrity of the word of God.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Of course maybe you don't believe Peter either.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Of course maybe you don't believe Peter either.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
he certainly dont believe peter. peter considered paul's writings scripture:
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
I guess you must have missed this one...
2 Tim 3:16..."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
But I guess you stumbled across the word "ALL SCRIPTURE" that means "ALL WORDs" of the Bible.
2 Tim 3:16..."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
But I guess you stumbled across the word "ALL SCRIPTURE" that means "ALL WORDs" of the Bible.
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Seeing we have so many opinions and not facts about Joyce and her Money, lets let her audited financial record speak for itself.
PS: you know you can download this off her website for yourselves.
http://annualreport.joycemeyer.org/downloads/Joyce_Meyer_Annual_Report_2016_Financials.pdf
Annual Report 2016 | Joyce Meyer Ministries
PS: you know you can download this off her website for yourselves.
http://annualreport.joycemeyer.org/downloads/Joyce_Meyer_Annual_Report_2016_Financials.pdf
Annual Report 2016 | Joyce Meyer Ministries
Now might I add to my last post that the original transcripts are inerrant. The KJV has several translated and transliterated errors within it pages. This is caused by the English language cannot keep up with Hebrew and/ Greek (Koinia).
But in our today's society, one can take a computer and read the exact words that were spoken from GOD to those who wrote His book for HIM.
I suggest everyone with questions study the originals more closely.
But in our today's society, one can take a computer and read the exact words that were spoken from GOD to those who wrote His book for HIM.
I suggest everyone with questions study the originals more closely.
And you seem to have decided to alter the words to say that everything we find in our Bibles is a command.
I saw the word "SCRIPTURE", but are you aware that many of the books we see as "scripture" were not in existence when those words were written? They weren't even going to be written until years and years later. AND the early fathers did not even consider them to be in the canon for a time period that was about as long as our own nation has been in existence.
I saw the word "SCRIPTURE", but are you aware that many of the books we see as "scripture" were not in existence when those words were written? They weren't even going to be written until years and years later. AND the early fathers did not even consider them to be in the canon for a time period that was about as long as our own nation has been in existence.
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Regarding the discussion on whether everything Paul wrote is "Scripture"...
I recommend the book "How to Read the Bible For All It's Worth" by Fee and Stuart. It discusses, among other things, the different genres of Scripture and how to go about interpreting them. It's worth the few bucks and hours.
I recommend the book "How to Read the Bible For All It's Worth" by Fee and Stuart. It discusses, among other things, the different genres of Scripture and how to go about interpreting them. It's worth the few bucks and hours.
u keep talking abuot 2 timothy 3:16 but what about peter saying paul's writings are considered scripture?
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
i wont answer until u answer my question.
why does peter include paul's writings as scriptures??? how do u pick and choose? u throw away timothy as u do because its written to just timothy. (short lived letter) u have to throw out philemon too, worthless book.
but then u gotta deal with 1 corinthians 14:34-37 which is written to an entire church. or do we throw that away too since that church doesnt exist anymore?
lets just take paul out the bible. all those churches are long gone. lets take away the gospels they werent for u, only for the disciples of Jesus at that time.
with the way u read it nothing matters. no wonder u are mixed up in so much false doctrine. what kind of new age nonsense is this
why does peter include paul's writings as scriptures??? how do u pick and choose? u throw away timothy as u do because its written to just timothy. (short lived letter) u have to throw out philemon too, worthless book.
but then u gotta deal with 1 corinthians 14:34-37 which is written to an entire church. or do we throw that away too since that church doesnt exist anymore?
lets just take paul out the bible. all those churches are long gone. lets take away the gospels they werent for u, only for the disciples of Jesus at that time.
with the way u read it nothing matters. no wonder u are mixed up in so much false doctrine. what kind of new age nonsense is this