Not to correct that is for sure. That is how we look at it on earth. Not so in the Scriptures. I am happy to be proven wrong on this however.What is the goal of punishment?
Well I dont believe hell is eternal cause our father is just and loving there will be punishment but it won't be eternal and you know every atheist I've met is turned off of God and religion because of the thought of hell being eternal they think God is evil because he's going to punish people by burning them for all of eternity it doesn't even make since that God loving us as much as he does would punish us to that extent
Satisfaction of Gods justice. Gods wrath is upon sin. If man will not forsake his sin then he is bound to it for all eternity.What is the goal of punishment?
Satisfaction of Gods justice. Gods wrath is upon sin. If man will not forsake his sin then he is bound to it for all eternity.
Hell was not created for man but for the devil and his angels.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
What is the goal of punishment?
If people wish to follow satan in this life, then they shall reap what they sow where they are tortured and damned for eternity to hell.
Bring out the verses bro! I got my notepadAnd, I believe we are told in the Bible that God's justice is making wrong things, right?
I believe that people that go to hell suffer a second death and cease to exist in the eyes of God. They are certainly not going to be tortured in hell burning for all eternity. Only a cruel god would do such a thing but God is Love and has a more merciful solution.
Bring out the verses bro! I got my notepad
Too many to list. Each time God punished a People Group or a Prophet declared something, it was for one purpose... to provoke the people to righteousness. His wrath was shown to correct and to turn people. Sometimes the wrath was on Gentiles..... then it would be on Israel... then the Gentiles again... then back on Israel. (Where it seems to be today.)
What makes you think your sense of right and wrong is superior to that of God?And, I believe we are told in the Bible that God's justice is making wrong things, right?
What makes you think your sense of right and wrong is superior to that of God?
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I cannot remember even one. The babylonian captivity for example, how was that corrective? Let alone destruction of Jerusalem in 70A.D. where most did not even survive.
Noah's flood, no correction.
As I have stated before: God is God. He does what He wants to do. Living in Europe I hear God always made out to be a monster for taking out the animals with the humans during the flood, but that is how He operates. God does not care about animals too much. Fact. Clear from both old and new testaments (I am referring to Jesus sending the devils to the pigs and the pigs drowned)
So hell certainly does match the character of God throughout the O.T and N.T. I doubt anyone would even contest O.T who has read it. But even in the N.T we got verses like Revelation 2:22-23, not much correction.
To quote brother PreacherForTruth he always talks about the Romans 9:20 man. Great point I think. I am not accusing you of being that guy btw Willie, just speaking in general![]()
Souls in eternal condemnation will experience a complete absence of Gods presence. Terror even worse than the torment of the flames. Utter despair and complete loss of hope.I can answer things only if I made the statements.......... I can't answer what you have contrived as being my words.
I have long seen that men seek, and usually find, the god they worship and hold in their hearts. You and I seem to worship different ones.
Well I asked for verses or examples, you provided none. Then you make statements about worshiping a different god. Hmm.
Atleast the God I have can be seen and found on the pages of Scriptures. You have made up a god of your own? Perhaps after this post it is safe to say you indeed are the Romans 9:20 man.
You took a friendly conversation and turned it on its head. Nice job sister.
yes this is true. another example is in jeremiah 18.Just a question for thought.
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God manytimes in Scriptures declared a punishment and then He changed His mind, because the goal was reached without it.
For example the destruction Niniveh in the book of Jonah.
Could it be that even though God tells us about this punishment (hell), He will change His mind?
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P.S. "to change a mind" is, of course, only a human language. God does not change, in reality, and all is His plan from the beginning.