King James Bible ONLY? Or NOT?

[Jackson123]

I watched a video recently that changed my mind on the type of Bible I should keep as the over-riding bible authority. I have an NIV, ESV, Gideon's new testament, NKJV, KJV and am picking up a n Amplified Holy Bible tomorrow. I will probably use one of the most accurate to the King James, for quick reading, but highlight thereof area's and swap back to KJV. But will try to stick with the old English in the KJV until I get confused.

I watched Pastor Steven L Anderson's, New World Order movie. Just under 2 hours long, very interesting. Puts potentially the NIV, ESV, NKJV and more to shame, depending on version's and errors of course.

So, (1) Have you watched the video? If not,
watch it first, please.

(1b) Did the video change your mind?

(2) What Bible do you support?

(3) Why do you support it?

At the bottom of your post, please put final Bible choice in caps, alone, so it can be seen as a tally. Thanks.

KJV

I never wacth that video, but I notice some version are not Acurate.

 

[Sagart]

All of the following are found either 37 times in KJB or in 37 verses or both.

Saviour; ark of God; ark of the Lord; churches; his word; the cup; ministered; crucified; corner; branch; miracle(s); authority; shall hear; shall rise; wine (NT); grapes; manifest; treasure; the apostles;

Counting from Mark 1:1 to Revelation.

"the beginning" found in 37 verses
"the gospel" found in 74 (37x2) verses
"Jesus Christ" found in 185 (37x5) verses
"the Son" (case sensitive) found in 111 (37x3) verses
"Son of God" (case sensitive0 found in 37 verses

Anyone want to calculate the chance of this being random? This is one verse and I can tell you that the entire King James Bible exhibits a pattern of 7's and 37's. Try the same thing with Matthew 1:1; John 1:1; John 18:37; 1 John 5:7; 3 John 1:12 (the 222nd occurrence of the word "truth" in the KJB.

The bottom line is whether the King James Translation of the Bible was translated accurately enough to make it a suitable translation for studying the Bible in an era when precise accuracy is demanded by careful readers of the Bible—and the answer to that question is definitively, “No!”

 

[Nehemiah6]

The bottom line is whether the King James Translation of the Bible was translated accurately enough to make it a suitable translation for studying the Bible in an era when precise accuracy is demanded by careful readers of the Bible—and the answer to that question is definitively, “No!”

The answer should have been "YES!"

Do you really believe that the King James translators were inept and incapable of discerning the true Scriptures from the false?

And if you want "precise accuracy" you will note (if your remove your biased spectacles) that only the KJB has the inserted words of the translators clearly separated from the actual words in the text, which are provide with a word-for-word translation (unlike dynamic equivalence in the NIV and other paraphrases).

What you and others of similar persuasion also seem to forget is that a deliberate HOAX was perpetrated on the Christian world. It was like removing the correct label of POISON from a bottle of medicine and replacing it with a label saying ELIXER --drink it all up.

 

[trofimus]

Do you really believe that the King James translators were inept and incapable of discerning the true Scriptures from the false?

Yes. They were not geniuses over all history. They had very limited sources, medieval knowledge and lived on isolated islands.
They also worked for English king, i.e. for the world.

The center of biblical manuscripts was in the East. The center of education was in continental Europe. England was not the top of the world.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yes. They were not geniuses over all history.

This remark shows that you know absolutely nothing about the genius and the outstanding scholarship of the King James translators. Yes, they were legitimately subject to their king (as the Scripture commands) but even more importantly they were in total subjection to the King of kings, and their piety and devotion is second to none. Not to mention their impeccable scholarship and command of all the necessary languages of the original Scriptures.

It might be time to do some serious unbiased research into this matter, instead of reiterating negative propaganda.

 

[trofimus]

This remark shows that you know absolutely nothing about the genius and the outstanding scholarship of the King James translators. Yes, they were legitimately subject to their king (as the Scripture commands) but even more importantly they were in total subjection to the King of kings, and their piety and devotion is second to none. Not to mention their impeccable scholarship and command of all the necessary languages of the original Scriptures.

It might be time to do some serious unbiased research into this matter, instead of reiterating negative propaganda.

Its good that you know them personally and not from the KJV only propaganda.

Did they even know that Earth is rotating around the sun and not the opposite? You should not overestimate the knowledge and formal education of those days.

 

[Sagart]

The answer should have been "YES!"

Do you really believe that the King James translators were inept and incapable of discerning the true Scriptures from the false?

In the early 1600’s, translators of the Bible had virtually nothing to work with except the biblical texts themselves. That is, they had no Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek concordances—and not even anything close to an exhaustive concordance to other translations of the Bible into English, German, French, Dutch—or any other language! They had no Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek lexicons—and only exceedingly poor Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek grammars. Many of the Hebrew words in the Masoretic text of the Old Testament that they translated from were found only once in that text—and, therefore, they had nearly no contextual information to use to determine the meaning of the words—and therefore, they guessed! NONE of them had any formal education in Koine Greek, and in the early 1600’s the study of ancient Greek grammar was in its infancy! During the past 400 plus years, huge strides have been made in the study of the biblical languages—especially in Greek now that we have thousands of writings in Koine Greek to study and analyze. The translators of the KJV had none except for the New Testament—and they were not even aware that the New Testament was written in Koine Greek—a Greek dialect that they did not even know existed! (They mistakenly believed that the New Testament was written in what they called, ‘Holy Ghost Greek’).

And if you want "precise accuracy" you will note (if your remove your biased spectacles) that only the KJB has the inserted words of the translators clearly separated from the actual words in the text, which are provide with a word-for-word translation (unlike dynamic equivalence in the NIV and other paraphrases).

The ASV and the NASB place such words in italic type, as does the KJV.

What you and others of similar persuasion also seem to forget is that a deliberate HOAX was perpetrated on the Christian world. It was like removing the correct label of POISON from a bottle of medicine and replacing it with a label saying ELIXER --drink it all up.

Everyone, and there are millions of us, who reads the Bible itself rather than relying on translations of it knows for an incontrovertible fact that KJOism is a hoax perpetuated by gullible and ridiculously ignorant persons who place so little value on the Bible that they have never bothered to learn how to read it!

 

[James37]

“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:19




“And” 12848 (73x176) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“And” 3031 (7x433) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“And if” 210 (3x7x10) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“And if” 84 (3x7x4) times in the NT. (any case)


“if any” 42 (3x7x2) verses in the NT. (case sensitive)


“if any” 74 (37x2) chapters in the Bible.


“if any man” 35 (7x5) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“any man” 137 verses of the Bible.


“shall” 1414th (7x202) time this word occurs NT.


“shall” 9758th (7x17x82) time this word occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“shall take” this is the 6th occurrence of the phrase in NT (man)


“shall take” found in 66 chapters of the Bible (think about it!!!)


“take” 714th (7x3x34) occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“away” 210 (3x7x10) times in the NT.


“from the” 137th chapter in the NT containing this phrase.


“the” 62049 (37x3x559) occurrence in the Bible (1st “the” and case sensitive)


“words” 546th (3x7x26) time this word occurs in the Bible.


“word(s)” 287th (7x41) time in the NT.


“the word(s)” 377th chapter containing the phrase “the word” or “the words”


“the word(s)” 623rd (7x89) time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 157th (157 is the 37th prime and we will see this number again in 1 John 5:7) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 665th (7x19x5) verse in the Bible containing this phrase.


“words of the” 66th occurrence (66 books of the Bible) of this phrase in the Bible.


“book” 186th (7 x 25) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (1st occurrence)


“book” 39th occurrence in the NT (39 books of the OT) (1st occurence)


“of this” 198 (66 x 3) time this phrase occurs in the Bible (66 books of the Bible)


“of this” (case sensitive) 196 (7x7x4) occurrence in the Bible (Jesus Christ 196 times in KJB)


“of this” 74 (37x2) verses containing this phrase in the NT.


“of this” 73 verses NT (case sensitive)


“prophecy” 21 (3x7) times in the Bible.


“God” 1184th (37x32) verse in the NT containing this word (case sensitive)


“God*” 4110 (137x30) occurrence in the Bible (case sensitive)


“shall” 1001 (77x13) final occurrence in the NT.


“shall” 6013 (7x859) times in the Bible and final occurrence. (case sensitive)


“take” 161st (7x23) and final occurrence in the NT in the 157th verse containing this word.


“take” 119th (7x17) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“shall take” 7th time in the NT and final occurrence in the Bible. (God)


“take* away” 35 (7x5) time in the NT. (final occurence)


“his” 5968 (373 x 16) verses in the Bible containing this word.


“his” 8386th (7x1198) and final occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“part” 175th (7x25) and final verse in Bible containing this word.


“part” this is the 37th chapter in the NT that contains this word.


“out” 2774th (73x38) occurrence of this word in the Bible.


“out of” 245th (7x7x5) occurrence in the NT (1st occurrence in the verse)


“the book” 133rd (7x19) final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the book” 27 times in the NT (1 for each of the 27 books of the New Testament)


“the book(s)” 140th (7x20) and final occurrence of the phrases “the book” or “the books”


“the book of life” found exactly 7 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 70 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 37 times in the NT of the KJB


“life” found in 49 (7x7) books of the Bible and 270 (27 x 10) chapters of the Bible.


“and out” 74 (37x2) verses in the Bible contain this phrase.


“out of” 1337th (7x91) verse in the Bible that contains this phrase


“out of” 1477th (7x211) and final time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 148th (37x4) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 280th (7x40) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible, (any case)


“city” 777th (37x3x7) final verse of the Bible that contains this word.


“city” 868th (7x31x4) this is the final occurrence of the word city in the Bible.


“and” 51695 (7x7x1055) times in the Bible (3rd and final occurrence in this verse)


“from the” 224th (7x32) and final occurrence of this phrase in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the” (case sensitive) 10696 (7x191x8) final occurrence of this word in the Bible


“things” 1022nd (7x73x3) verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“things which” 137th verse in the Bible that contains this phrase.


“things which” 111th (37x3) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible.


“things which are” this phrase occurs exactly 37 times in the KJB


“which” 1484th (7x212) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“which” 3782nd verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“which are” 119th (7x17) and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“which are written” 7 times in the NT of the KJB.


“in this” 148th (37x4) occurrence and 146th (2x73) verse in Bible containing this phrase.


“book” this is the 37th and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“book” 42nd (3x7x2) and final occurrence of this word in the NT.




The King James Bible contains 783137 words.


Jesus in Greek gematria = 888 = (37x24)


Jesus in popular English gematria = 444 = (37x12)


Jesus in simple English gematria = 74 = (37x2)


[FONT=&quot]“Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,” (Psalm 40:7) and THE 111TH (37 X 3) VERSE IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE that contains the word “book.”[/FONT]
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[Sagart]

“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:19




“And” 12848 (73x176) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“And” 3031 (7x433) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“And if” 210 (3x7x10) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“And if” 84 (3x7x4) times in the NT. (any case)


“if any” 42 (3x7x2) verses in the NT. (case sensitive)


“if any” 74 (37x2) chapters in the Bible.


“if any man” 35 (7x5) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“any man” 137 verses of the Bible.


“shall” 1414th (7x202) time this word occurs NT.


“shall” 9758th (7x17x82) time this word occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“shall take” this is the 6th occurrence of the phrase in NT (man)


“shall take” found in 66 chapters of the Bible (think about it!!!)


“take” 714th (7x3x34) occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“away” 210 (3x7x10) times in the NT.


“from the” 137th chapter in the NT containing this phrase.


“the” 62049 (37x3x559) occurrence in the Bible (1st “the” and case sensitive)


“words” 546th (3x7x26) time this word occurs in the Bible.


“word(s)” 287th (7x41) time in the NT.


“the word(s)” 377th chapter containing the phrase “the word” or “the words”


“the word(s)” 623rd (7x89) time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 157th (157 is the 37th prime and we will see this number again in 1 John 5:7) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 665th (7x19x5) verse in the Bible containing this phrase.


“words of the” 66th occurrence (66 books of the Bible) of this phrase in the Bible.


“book” 186th (7 x 25) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (1st occurrence)


“book” 39th occurrence in the NT (39 books of the OT) (1st occurence)


“of this” 198 (66 x 3) time this phrase occurs in the Bible (66 books of the Bible)


“of this” (case sensitive) 196 (7x7x4) occurrence in the Bible (Jesus Christ 196 times in KJB)


“of this” 74 (37x2) verses containing this phrase in the NT.


“of this” 73 verses NT (case sensitive)


“prophecy” 21 (3x7) times in the Bible.


“God” 1184th (37x32) verse in the NT containing this word (case sensitive)


“God*” 4110 (137x30) occurrence in the Bible (case sensitive)


“shall” 1001 (77x13) final occurrence in the NT.


“shall” 6013 (7x859) times in the Bible and final occurrence. (case sensitive)


“take” 161st (7x23) and final occurrence in the NT in the 157th verse containing this word.


“take” 119th (7x17) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“shall take” 7th time in the NT and final occurrence in the Bible. (God)


“take* away” 35 (7x5) time in the NT. (final occurence)


“his” 5968 (373 x 16) verses in the Bible containing this word.


“his” 8386th (7x1198) and final occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“part” 175th (7x25) and final verse in Bible containing this word.


“part” this is the 37th chapter in the NT that contains this word.


“out” 2774th (73x38) occurrence of this word in the Bible.


“out of” 245th (7x7x5) occurrence in the NT (1st occurrence in the verse)


“the book” 133rd (7x19) final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the book” 27 times in the NT (1 for each of the 27 books of the New Testament)


“the book(s)” 140th (7x20) and final occurrence of the phrases “the book” or “the books”


“the book of life” found exactly 7 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 70 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 37 times in the NT of the KJB


“life” found in 49 (7x7) books of the Bible and 270 (27 x 10) chapters of the Bible.


“and out” 74 (37x2) verses in the Bible contain this phrase.


“out of” 1337th (7x91) verse in the Bible that contains this phrase


“out of” 1477th (7x211) and final time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 148th (37x4) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 280th (7x40) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible, (any case)


“city” 777th (37x3x7) final verse of the Bible that contains this word.


“city” 868th (7x31x4) this is the final occurrence of the word city in the Bible.


“and” 51695 (7x7x1055) times in the Bible (3rd and final occurrence in this verse)


“from the” 224th (7x32) and final occurrence of this phrase in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the” (case sensitive) 10696 (7x191x8) final occurrence of this word in the Bible


“things” 1022nd (7x73x3) verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“things which” 137th verse in the Bible that contains this phrase.


“things which” 111th (37x3) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible.


“things which are” this phrase occurs exactly 37 times in the KJB


“which” 1484th (7x212) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“which” 3782nd verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“which are” 119th (7x17) and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“which are written” 7 times in the NT of the KJB.


“in this” 148th (37x4) occurrence and 146th (2x73) verse in Bible containing this phrase.


“book” this is the 37th and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“book” 42nd (3x7x2) and final occurrence of this word in the NT.




The King James Bible contains 783137 words.


Jesus in Greek gematria = 888 = (37x24)


Jesus in popular English gematria = 444 = (37x12)


Jesus in simple English gematria = 74 = (37x2)


“Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,” (Psalm 40:7) and THE 111TH (37 X 3) VERSE IN THE KING JAMES BIBLE that contains the word “book.”

[FONT=&quot]The bottom line is whether the King James Translation of the Bible was translated accurately enough to make it a suitable translation for studying the Bible in an era when precise accuracy is demanded by careful readers of the Bible—and the answer to that question is definitively, “No!”[/FONT]

 

[Sagart]

God has promised to preserve His pure words for all generations.

Why are you lying about God and what He has promised?