GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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any theology that does allow direct questions to be answered is a fake theology.
Absolutely, now answer the last 13 posts of scripture that refute you and your friends word of website using God's Word :)
 

gb9

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Absolutely, now answer the last 13 posts of scripture that refute you and your friends word of website using God's Word :)
I have never looked at that website, I do not care what any website says. you were asked a question about a belief, you have yet to give a straight answer. at my church, we have a Q and A where anyone is free to ask any question, and get an answer. a straight answer . you have yet to do so.

I need no website to see Hebrew roots/ sda agendas. I have been around here a long time. you are not the first judaizer I have interacted with. and, all of them, you included, want to use Scripture to refute Scripture. Scripture does not contradict, it complements. your "refute " thing is a refute in itself. it shows you only want to push an agenda, not have an actual discussion.
 

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I have never looked at that website, I do not care what any website says. you were asked a question about a belief, you have yet to give a straight answer. at my church, we have a Q and A where anyone is free to ask any question, and get an answer. a straight answer . you have yet to do so.

I need no website to see Hebrew roots/ sda agendas. I have been around here a long time. you are not the first judaizer I have interacted with. and, all of them, you included, want to use Scripture to refute Scripture. Scripture does not contradict, it complements. your "refute " thing is a refute in itself. it shows you only want to push an agenda, not have an actual discussion.
What church do you attend?
 

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at my church, we have a Q and A where anyone is free to ask any question, and get an answer. a straight answer
WOW! We do that where I attend. I never knew anyone else who did that. <Shakes your hand!>
 

gotime

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There is a big difference between asking a question out of a genuine willingness to learn and understand to asking in order to trip someone up like the pharisees did.

And sometimes a question takes more to explain than the one who asks realises. Anyone who thinks questions can only have a simple quick answer is impatient and unreasonable.

Like the one on here who asks about the scapegoat Its not a quick simple answer because there are a whole lot of things that come together on the day of atonement and it is connected to the other feasts also.

If we started to get into it in the bible they would say something like, that was long winded and ignore it.

If we keep it short by not putting it all into context they will not understand the biblical reasoning and claim it is unsound.

Its a lose lose situation because the asker is not really asking to understand they are simple doing what the enemy of God has always done:

Mat_12:10 And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
 

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Let us examine these things , perhaps some will see a view that has not yet been discuss on these boards.

In thee book of Acts 13:14-15 Paul & his party , enter the synagogue on the Sabbath in Antioch in Pisidia , they took a seat then , after a reading of the Law & The Prophets , were given the moment to address the Jews & Gentiles of Antioch.


Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Interesting that the Gentiles belivers , decided to hear Paul preach the Good News the following Sabbath. What is even more fascinating , that Paul concur with them.

Acts 13:44
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

This was not a little sect of Gentiles , let us go back a few verse in chapter 13
Did you catch that , almost the whole city Acts 13:14 Antioch in Pisidia , came to hear the word of God, But why let us search the scripture shall we.

In the book of acts there is a recorded account upon , the synagogue of the Jews in Berea . Received The Word with all readiness , many of them believed & also the Greeks that were present.

Acts 17

Paul and Silas at Berea

10And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few

Interesting

Another account , in the book of Acts concerning not only the Jews but those in Corinthians. Crispus the ruler of the synagogue , believed on the Lord with all his household. Paul continue with them a year & six months teaching.

Paul's Ministry in Corinth

Acts 18:8-11

8And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.

In all these trails , persecutions , and works of God. Paul did not speak one word against the Sabbath , neither to the Gentiles , Jews or to the Greeks that believe.

It was paul custom to keep the sabbath Acts 17:2 ,but he did not force the Gentile to observe the day romans 14:5 , due that the Gentiles believers that seek God , already having prior knowledge of the law. They Honor The Lord.

Remind yourself of the Gentiles in Antioch in Pisidia Acts 13:14-15 , they have knowledge upon The Law & Prophets.


If this was not so , examine the scriptures , how did Cornelius the centurion become a devout man that fear God.

Acts 10

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

Who taught him to fear God , he must have been seeking the Lord & His Word.

These are just a few things to carefully examine , perhaps you may have overlooked them. Be wise and examine these things , don't just go with the flow of the majority.

History has proven that the majority never had it right.

Shalom









 
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Let us examine these things , perhaps some will see a view that has not yet been discuss on these boards.

In thee book of Acts 13:14-15 Paul & his party , enter the synagogue on the Sabbath in Antioch in Pisidia , they took a seat then , after a reading of the Law & The Prophets , were given the moment to address the Jews & Gentiles of Antioch.


Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue,the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.

Interesting that the Gentiles belivers , decided to hear Paul preach the Good News the following Sabbath. What is even more fascinating , that Paul concur with them.

Acts 13:44
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

This was not a little sect of Gentiles , let us go back a few verse in chapter 13
Did you catch that , almost the whole city Acts 13:14 Antioch in Pisidia , came to hear the word of God, But why let us search the scripture shall we.

In the book of acts there is a recorded account upon , the synagogue of the Jews in Berea . Received The Word with all readiness , many of them believed & also the Greeks that were present.

Acts 17

Paul and Silas at Berea

10And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

12Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few

Interesting

Another account , in the book of Acts concerning not only the Jews but those in Corinthians. Crispus the ruler of the synagogue , believed on the Lord with all his household. Paul continue with them a year & six months teaching.

Paul's Ministry in Corinth

Acts 18:8-11

8And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.
11 And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.

In all these trails , persecutions , and works of God. Paul did not speak one word against the Sabbath , neither to the Gentiles , Jews or to the Greeks that believe.

It was paul custom to keep the sabbath Acts 17:2 ,but he did not force the Gentile to observe the day romans 14:5 , due that the Gentiles believers that seek God , already having prior knowledge of the law. They Honor The Lord.

Remind yourself of the Gentiles in Antioch in Pisidia Acts 13:14-15 , they have knowledge upon The Law & Prophets.


If this was not so , examine the scriptures , how did Cornelius the centurion become a devout man that fear God.

Acts 10

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

Who taught him to fear God , he must have been seeking the Lord & His Word.

These are just a few things to carefully examine , perhaps you may have overlooked them. Be wise and examine these things , don't just go with the flow of the majority.

History has proven that the majority never had it right.

Shalom

Hi Vic,

Thanks for sharing. It is true God's people have always been a remnant and there is nothing new under the sun it will be the same just before Jesus returns.........

Revelations 12
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And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

May God bless you as you continue in His Word.
 

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Hi Vic,

Thanks for sharing. It is true God's people have always been a remnant and there is nothing new under the sun it will be the same just before Jesus returns.........


May God bless you as you continue in His Word.

Hi LGF,

And we all know what you man by remnant church, it is the SDA only.

13. I accept that the Seventh-day Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy, and that people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted into its fellowship. I desire to be a member in this local congregation of the world church.


And of course you only believe the teachings of scripture as prescribed 'only' by SDA/Sabbatarians (baptismal vows of SDA):

11. I know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church. It is my purpose, by the grace of God, to order my life in harmony with these principles



And of course we know that the SDA have many false and failed prophecies and yet:


8.I accept the Biblical teaching of spiritual gifts, and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church. (The remnant church being SDA and the prophecy includes Ellen G whites lies)


Your Scripture use can not be trusted LGF..







(http://www.gatewaysda.org/ResourcesFiles/OFFICIAL_SDA_BAPTISMAL_VOWS.pdf)
 
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take it down guys. just join christians and stop the hebrew roots confusion.
imagine how the Lord could use u to win souls with that type of energy.

this flu or whatever this is is killing me i tried to write the word enthusiastic but i dont know if thats right
 

gb9

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Hi LGF,

And we all know what you man by remnant church, it is the SDA only.

13. I accept that the Seventh-day Church is the remnant church of Bible prophecy, and that people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted into its fellowship. I desire to be a member in this local congregation of the world church.


And of course you only believe the teachings of scripture as prescribed 'only' by SDA/Sabbatarians (baptismal vows of SDA):

11. I know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church. It is my purpose, by the grace of God, to order my life in harmony with these principles



And of course we know that the SDA have many false and failed prophecies and yet:


8.I accept the Biblical teaching of spiritual gifts, and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church. (The remnant church being SDA and the prophecy includes Ellen G whites lies)


Your Scripture use can not be trusted LGF..







(http://www.gatewaysda.org/ResourcesFiles/OFFICIAL_SDA_BAPTISMAL_VOWS.pdf)
the silence on the straight forward question you have asked multiple times speaks volumes.
 

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Does SDA Truth stand up to the Biblical test?

Brother Anderson was a member of the SDA Church for 33 years. He was taught the SDA Church was the "remnant church" and was the one church entrusted with the "truth" for the last days. To his utter astonishment and amazement, when he began studying the Bible instead of Ellen White's books, he made the shocking discovery that SDA truth is different from Biblical truth. He found that some SDA teachings are not based upon Scripture at all but upon tradition, conjecture of the early pioneers, and statements made by the prophetess Ellen White.

Don't take his word for it. Get our your Bibles and take the SDA Truth Challenge below for yourself and decide if SDA truth is Bible truth. Praise God for brother Anderson who studied his way out of the Seventh-day Adventist Church! :)

The Truth about the Seventh-day Adventist Church
 
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I have never looked at that website, I do not care what any website says. you were asked a question about a belief, you have yet to give a straight answer. at my church, we have a Q and A where anyone is free to ask any question, and get an answer. a straight answer . you have yet to do so. I need no website to see Hebrew roots/ sda agendas. I have been around here a long time. you are not the first judaizer I have interacted with. and, all of them, you included, want to use Scripture to refute Scripture. Scripture does not contradict, it complements. your "refute " thing is a refute in itself. it shows you only want to push an agenda, not have an actual discussion.
Now gb9,

There is no need to be upset. There is no agenda, there is only God's Word. You stand on it or you fall. If you fall all you need to do is seek God in prayer and ask him to be your teacher. That is my agenda to only point all to God's WORD because it is ONLY in God's Word that we any of us can find Him who LOVES all. Without LOVE we are nothing. If you find your scripture contradicts your interpretation of it then it should be a WARNING sign to you that what you BELIEVE is not inline with God's Word.

Seek the Lord while he may be found through His Word. Tomorrow may be too late.

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
 
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ONLY GOD'S WORD IS TRUE, DO YOU KNOW THE SCRIPTURES?

If you deny him who loves you how can you say you know him? If you do not BELIEVE His WORD how will you find your way when the gate is narrow?

The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself but the Father that dwells in me, shares His Word with all and none should seek to hide it. It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life because they are His Words and not my own.

The word of website or the Word of God, who will be your guide? No one answers to the word of website on judgement day and the word of website will not judge you.

If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejects me, and receiveth not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Here on the WORD of God we stand or we fall. Where will you make your stand?

Behold I stand at the door and knock. Do you know the scriptures?

Those that have ears to hear let them hear....... God's sheep hear His Voice because it is the Word of God. Many are called but few are chosen because narrow is the way and men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil.
 

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ONLY GOD'S WORD IS TRUE, DO YOU KNOW THE SCRIPTURES?


Yes thoroughly, do you?


If you deny him who loves you how can you say you know him? If you do not BELIEVE His WORD how will you find your way when the gate is narrow?
It is not His word we are disputing. It is YOUR word
The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself but the Father that dwells in me, shares His Word with all and none should seek to hide it. It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life because they are His Words and not my own.
And we follow His word.

The word of website or the Word of God, who will be your guide?
we follow the word of God rather than your word or your websites word
 
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Hi DD,
This might also be a good topic to discuss when you have some time and if you can read the OP here. What are the OLD and New Covenants and what is the difference between the OLD and NEW Covenants mean to you? Look forward to your reply :)
Old Covenant; what was on man to do in making themselves good in redeeming themselves and to do good for God.

New Covenant; now it is God's turn that by believing in Him as their Saviour, they are good, and by believing in Him as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow Him, we live by faith in Him so we can rest in Him since we got saved.

Since scripture cannot go against scripture, you need to address Matthew 12:1-7 on why Jesus said that His disciples were blameless for profaning the sabbath day. You are failing to know Him in this regard for why He is Lord of the sabbath.

You cannot be representing Him fully when you are all about being a Seventh Day Adventist, therefore how can you say you are not preaching yourselves?
 
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OT and NT, same:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]2 Timothy 2:19, "However, the solid foundation of Yah stands firm, having this seal*, “ [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]knows those who are His, Let everyone who names the Name of Messiah turn away from unrighteousness.”

Strong's Concordance *"seal"is word #G4973 - sphragis: a seal, a signet, Original Word: σφραγίς, ῖδος, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: sphragis, Phonetic Spelling: (sfrag-ece'), Short Definition: a signet-ring, impression of a seal, the proof, Definition: a seal, signet ring, the impression of a seal, that which the seal attests, the proof.

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 13:9, “And it shall be as a *sign to you on your hand and as a reminder between your eyes, that the Torah (Instructions/Law) of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]is to be in your mouth, for with a strong hand [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has brought you out of Mitsrayim.”

The word *Sign is word #H226 – owth from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, Hebrew Dictionary: meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]H226 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]אוֹת [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]'owth (oth), a signal (literally or figuratively), as a flag, beacon, monument, omen, prodigy, evidence, etc., [probably from H225 (in the sense of appearing)], KJV: mark, miracle, (en-)sign, token.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The word “unrighteousness” is word #G93 ἀδικία – adikia, ad-ee-kee'-ah, (legal) injustice (properly the quality, by implication the act); moral wrongfulness (of charter, life or act):—iniquity, unjust, unrighteousness, wrong.[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]
 
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Well this is not true at all. The Sabbath WAS given for ALL mankind to keep let’s look at the scriptures from Genesis, Exodus and what Jesus say in the New Testament…..
Yes to keep as in “guard closely” or walk by faith "the unseen". Sabbath is a non-time sensitive word. Any time we hear his voice and harden not our hearts we have entered His Sabbath rest. Can’t keep a shadow as a ceremonial law that was designed for ceremonies and not to govern as a moral law. We keep then by observing them. It will find its complete fulfillment in the new heavens and earth .

In that way Peter Pan chased after a shadow

Why do the Judaizes want to worship shadows and make the ceremonials laws without effect?

It would appear it has to do with the fleshly mind of unconverted men . They refuse to walk by faith the unseen eternal.

Why puff up one’s mind above that which is written?

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col 2:16
 
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ONLY GOD'S WORD IS TRUE, DO YOU KNOW THE SCRIPTURES?

If you deny him who loves you how can you say you know him? If you do not BELIEVE His WORD how will you find your way when the gate is narrow?

The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself but the Father that dwells in me, shares His Word with all and none should seek to hide it. It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life because they are His Words and not my own.

The word of website or the Word of God, who will be your guide? No one answers to the word of website on judgement day and the word of website will not judge you.

If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejects me, and receiveth not my words, has one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Here on the WORD of God we stand or we fall. Where will you make your stand?

Behold I stand at the door and knock. Do you know the scriptures?

Those that have ears to hear let them hear....... God's sheep hear His Voice because it is the Word of God. Many are called but few are chosen because narrow is the way and men loved darkness rather then light because their deeds were evil.

I would agree . The time of refomation has come the veil is rent, the shadow had become sight .

Will you define what a cerimoinal law is and what it is designed to do? Or will it make the shadows disappear?
 

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I will say this the Gentlemen from the SDA church have never pushed membership and I’m quite sure I have read that there are Believers in all churches from someone over the last few months..

None of us know all things.. we all have our given measure.. all should be contending for the Faith through our Lord and Saviour by our Gracious GOD.

take no man’s word for it.. always search the Scriptures to see if it is True..

we all consider what the mark of the beast is or will be.. and just as Scripture was fulfilled and many did not perceive even though they knew Prophecies of the coming Messiah..

John even sent a message to ask if the Lord was the one they waited for... most likely because expectation of how things would come to pass was not happening... we Believe the end will come and our Lord will return.. we have the not if but when mind.. and some details to stay guarded with.. but I don’t think it will be exactly how we perceive at this time but as it comes to pass we will understand... if we are the people chosen to live through..

Anyhow.. we all can have our theory on the end time and mark of the Beast but without Faith in the Lord we will fall... so the common Salvation by Grace through Faith should be uniting us always..
 

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Yes to keep as in “guard closely” or walk by faith "the unseen". Sabbath is a non-time sensitive word. Any time we hear his voice and harden not our hearts we have entered His Sabbath rest. Can’t keep a shadow as a ceremonial law that was designed for ceremonies and not to govern as a moral law. We keep then by observing them. It will find its complete fulfillment in the new heavens and earth .

In that way Peter Pan chased after a shadow

Why do the Judaizes want to worship shadows and make the ceremonials laws without effect?

It would appear it has to do with the fleshly mind of unconverted men . They refuse to walk by faith the unseen eternal.

Why puff up one’s mind above that which is written?

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Col 2:16
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:20, “If, then, you died with Messiah from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to it’s ordinances.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:8, “See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world, and not according to Messiah.”
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2 is commonly used as a witness against Yah’s Sabbaths, however, Yah’s Sabbath are 100% bout the Messiah and have origins from Yah, not the world or paganism...

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when
[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

Fulfilled already- To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice(Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits – presenting Himself to YHWH)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The blessing Holy Spirit of YHWH, coming into our lives stronger than ever

4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return and gathering of the Saints
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years teaching truth and righteousness
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever


To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]so we can see the Sabbaths all 100% about the Messiah and all of them have not yet been fulfilled.

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