The King James Bible

[James37]

I live in the four corners area of the United States. Notice that the borders of Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico form a cross. At one time there was a highway that ran up this "cross" as a serpent. It was US 666 aka the devils highway until the name was eventually changed to US 491. As you probably know 666 = 37 x 18. It just so happens that the Arizona Utah border and the New Mexico Colorado border lies right on the 37th parallel. When I was a child I remember seeing the 666 signs and wondered why the would name the highway after such a sinister number. Anyways here are some things to consider.


Jesus = 888 (37 x 24) in Greek gematria; 444 (37 x 12) in English gematria; 74 (37 x 2) simple English gematria

“crucified” = 37 times in the KJB

“the passover” = 37 verses in the Old Testament

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:" (John 3:14)

“lifted up” = 137 times in the KJB (137 is the 33rd prime)

“lift up” or “lifted up” = 222 (37 x 6) times in the Old Testament/

(1 Corinthians 11:25) "After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me." (37 x 29th or 1073rd chapter of the Bible)

“the cup” = 37 times in the KJB

“wine” = 37 times in the New Testament

“And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.” (Mark 2:22 and 222 = 37 x 6; think about it! 137 x 7th chapter of the Bible.

And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish. (Luke 5:37) are you an “old bottle”

“Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.” (Genesis 4:8) (1st occurrence)

“And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.” (Matthew 21:39)

“slew him” = 37 times in the KJB

“And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.” (Matthew 20:19; 73 x 13 chapter of the Bible)

“shall rise” = 37 times in the KJB

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (Revelation 22:16)

“churches” = 37th and final occurrence of this word in the King James Bible


Some of you are literally about to burst! This book is right!

 

[posthuman]

Not at all!

"This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." (2 Corinthians 13:1)

established = 74 (37 x 2) times in KJB

Hebrew, Greek and English. It is biblical.

First of all, Hebrew, Aramaic, then Greek.

Then Latin.
Then German.

Later, English.

Several English versions later, KJV.


So. boom.

 

[James37]

This rather undermines the idea that the number patterns "prove" that the KJV is God's perfect translation in English.

Not at all!

"This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." (2 Corinthians 13:1)

established = 74 (37 x 2) times in KJB

Hebrew, Greek and English. It is biblical.

There is a video on youtube (15 minute long or so) titled "Numeric Patterns of 37 and 73" in the Bible. It discusses Hebrew and Greek. It is worth checking out if you haven't already.

The context was numerical patterns in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and Dino suggested that this was evidence against. The King James Bible has the numerical patterns of 37 and 73 just as the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. Do you have such evidence for all the Bibles you listed? I think you just blew up a straw man posthuman!

 

[James37]

I can tell you that this person these people are wise. The picked up on the significance of the number 37 and 73 without any computer software. They aren't some King James Bible only folks. I wonder if they know how right they are? My hats off to them

Bible's patterns, number and symbolism guide interpretation...(not numerology)


Sunday, October 03, 2010

God's Number 37 - theme tells of perfection/sanctification/being saved...



When you see anything related to number 37 (and its reverse 73) think about number 777, perfection, sanctification, consecration, truth and Jesus. Thirty-seven can bee seen like three sevens - 777 - which has similar meeting. Examples speak for themselves and should make you wonder about this impossible claim...The 3700th verse of the Bible finds the Lord selecting the Levites to be the tribe of Priests who are to be holy and set apart for serving God - not coincidentally, this is also the 3rd chapter and 7th verse (37) of the book of Numbers.This is just one of the Bible's many examples showing how number 37 is related to being saved/raised up or being holy or perfect. Like all God's numbers, opposite meanings can also be found associated with them, so with #37 so you will find themes of not being saved or being defeated/destroyed.

One very compelling example of the consistent theme association with number 37 are the contents of the seven chapter thirty-sevens of the Bible. Each of these chapters speak of being saved, made perfect, lifted up or opposite themes such as being thrown down or not being saved. It seems no coincidence there happen to be seven chapter thirty-sevens:

Gen 37 -- Joseph thrown into a pit but is lifted out of it (saved)

Exo 37 -- Perfection of furniture in tabernacle - things of Pure Gold, made perfect, annointing oil....

Job 37 -- God comes down, we cannot comprehend a perfect God - the 13,777th Bible verse is Job 37:7 he seals the hand of every man....

Psa 37 -- The Lord will save his people - Psalm 37:37 says "Mark the blameless man" (saved)

Isa 37 -- God will save Jerusalem - the 733rd verse of Isaiah - Isa 37:35 'For I will defend this city to save it for My own sake and for My servant David's sake.' "

Jer 37 -- Jerusalem was saved when the siege was lifted and Jerimiah was also saved from death - Jer 37:21 King Zedekiah commanded - they commit1 Jeremiah to the court of the guardhouse and gave him a loaf of bread daily (interesting c37 x v21 = 777 and both numbers reflect 3 sevens).

Eze 37 -- The dry bones vision of Israel who will be saved - Eze 37:28 "And the nations will know that I am the LORD who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever."


I know how impossible this all sounds but consider in the 777th Bible chapter Jerimiah 32:27 says "Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh; is anything too difficult for Me?", and the 37th verse of Luke (1:37) says "For nothing will be impossible with God.". Don't be surprised when you see that God has done the impossible - Like God, his numbers and the Bible's perfection are beyond our comprehension.

Amazing Word Home

 

[trofimus]

Gen 37 -- Joseph thrown into a pit but is lifted out of it (saved)

Exo 37 -- Perfection of furniture in tabernacle - things of Pure Gold, made perfect, annointing oil....

Job 37 -- God comes down, we cannot comprehend a perfect God - the 13,777th Bible verse is Job 37:7 he seals the hand of every man....

Psa 37 -- The Lord will save his people - Psalm 37:37 says "Mark the blameless man" (saved)

Isa 37 -- God will save Jerusalem - the 733rd verse of Isaiah - Isa 37:35 'For I will defend this city to save it for My own sake and for My servant David's sake.' "

Jer 37 -- Jerusalem was saved when the siege was lifted and Jerimiah was also saved from death - Jer 37:21 King Zedekiah commanded - they commit1 Jeremiah to the court of the guardhouse and gave him a loaf of bread daily (interesting c37 x v21 = 777 and both numbers reflect 3 sevens).

Eze 37 -- The dry bones vision of Israel who will be saved - Eze 37:28 "And the nations will know that I am the LORD who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever."

The try to connect at least some 37th chapters and to make them all say the same thing is so desperate that I had to smile while reading it...

A useless desire to see patterns where there are none.

If you invest half of this time to learning Greek, you will get a deeper insight (and real one, not just numbers fiction) for several verses, at least.

 

[SovereignGrace]

The try to connect at least some 37th chapters and to make them all say the same thing is so desperate that I had to smile while reading it...

A useless desire to see patterns where there are none.

If you invest half of this time to learning Greek, you will get a deeper insight (and real one, not just numbers fiction) for several verses, at least.

"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later." Blah, blah, blah, yakkety smackity...

 

[trofimus]

"You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later." Blah, blah, blah, yakkety smackity...

Yeah, because of this restriction I cannot give rep to several people anymore, I would have to rep people I do not agree with, to get out of this limitation...

 

[posthuman]

The context was numerical patterns in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts and Dino suggested that this was evidence against. The King James Bible has the numerical patterns of 37 and 73 just as the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. Do you have such evidence for all the Bibles you listed? I think you just blew up a straw man posthuman!

consider A = {a[SUB]1[/SUB], a[SUB]2[/SUB], a[SUB]3[/SUB], ... } and B = {b[SUB]1[/SUB], b[SUB]2[/SUB], b[SUB]3[/SUB], ...}
such that b[SUB]i[/SUB] = o[SUP]i[/SUP](a[SUB]i[/SUB]), i = 1..|A|,
for bounded operators {o[SUP]1[/SUP], o[SUP]2[/SUP], o[SUP]3[/SUP], ...}

suppose F is a continuous, bounded function F: B → C
then ∀i, F(b[SUB]i[/SUB]) = F(o[SUP]i[/SUP](a[SUB]i[/SUB]))
therefore there exists a continuous, bounded function G: A → C, G = F∘ω,
where ω is defined by {o[SUP]i[/SUP]}, ∀i



((if that makes sense))



which is to say ((though the math is saying more)), if there's a definable algebraic relationship between elements of the scripture in its given languages that can be mapped to the natural numbers, then of course there is also a relationship between elements of the same scripture in any translation into any language that is made in a continuous way!

some things you want to know is if G is bijective, if it's unique, and what measures are preserved under it.

 

[SovereignGrace]

consider A = {a[SUB]1[/SUB], a[SUB]2[/SUB], a[SUB]3[/SUB], ... } and B = {b[SUB]1[/SUB], b[SUB]2[/SUB], b[SUB]3[/SUB], ...}
such that b[SUB]i[/SUB] = o[SUP]i[/SUP](a[SUB]i[/SUB]), i = 1..|A|,
for bounded operators {o[SUP]1[/SUP], o[SUP]2[/SUP], o[SUP]3[/SUP], ...}

suppose F is a continuous, bounded function F: B → C
then ∀i, F(b[SUB]i[/SUB]) = F(o[SUP]i[/SUP](a[SUB]i[/SUB]))
therefore there exists a continuous, bounded function G: A → C, G = F∘ω,
where ω is defined by {o[SUP]i[/SUP]}, ∀i



((if that makes sense))



which is to say ((though the math is saying more)), if there's a definable algebraic relationship between elements of the scripture in its given languages that can be mapped to the natural numbers, then of course there is also a relationship between elements of the same scripture in any translation into any language that is made in a continuous way!

some things you want to know is if G is bijective, if it's unique, and what measures are preserved under it.

Uhhhhh...you a Pentecostal math teacher? This looks like tongues.

 

[posthuman]

Uhhhhh...you a Pentecostal math teacher? This looks like tongues.

no, but this guy actually is . .

[video=youtube;5vPJBOtSIsM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vPJBOtSIsM[/video]

click ►, it's not difficult to understand ♥

 

[posthuman]

“the passover” = 37 verses in the Old Testament

i don't trust your software.

1. Exodus 12:11
2. Exodus 12:21
3. Exodus 12:27
4. Exodus 12:43
5. Exodus 12:48
6. Exodus 34:25
7. Leviticus 23:5
8. Numbers 9:2
9. Numbers 9:4
10. Numbers 9:5
11. Numbers 9:6
12. Numbers 9:10
13. Numbers 9:12
14. Numbers 9:13
15. Numbers 9:14
16. Numbers 28:16
17. Numbers 33:3
18. Deuteronomy 16:1
19. Deuteronomy 16:2
20. Deuteronomy 16:5
21. Deuteronomy 16:6
22. Joshua 5:10
23. Joshua 5:11
24. 2 Kings 23:21
25. 2 Kings 23:22
26. 2 Kings 23:23
27. 2 Chronicles 30:1
28. 2 Chronicles 30:2
29. 2 Chronicles 30:5
30. 2 Chronicles 30:15
31. 2 Chronicles 30:17
32. 2 Chronicles 30:18
33. 2 Chronicles 35:1
34. 2 Chronicles 35:6
35. 2 Chronicles 35:7
36. 2 Chronicles 35:8
37. 2 Chronicles 35:9
38. 2 Chronicles 35:11
39. 2 Chronicles 35:13
40. 2 Chronicles 35:16
41. 2 Chronicles 35:17
42. 2 Chronicles 35:18
43. 2 Chronicles 35:19
44. Ezra 6:19
45. Ezra 6:20
46. Ezekiel 45:21

 

[posthuman]

established = 74 (37 x 2) times in KJB

i don't trust your software at all.

1. Genesis 9:17
2. Genesis 41:32
3. Exodus 6:4
4. Exodus 15:17
5. Leviticus 25:30
6. Deuteronomy 19:15
7. Deuteronomy 32:6
8. 1 Samuel 3:20
9. 1 Samuel 13:13
10. 1 Samuel 20:31
11. 1 Samuel 24:20
12. 2 Samuel 5:12
13. 2 Samuel 7:16
14. 2 Samuel 7:26
15. 1 Kings 2:12
16. 1 Kings 2:24
17. 1 Kings 2:45
18. 1 Kings 2:46
19. 1 Chronicles 17:14
20. 1 Chronicles 17:23
21. 1 Chronicles 17:24
22. 2 Chronicles 1:9
23. 2 Chronicles 12:1
24. 2 Chronicles 20:20
25. 2 Chronicles 25:3
26. 2 Chronicles 30:5
27. Job 21:8
28. Job 22:28
29. Psalm 24:2
30. Psalm 40:2
31. Psalm 78:5
32. Psalm 78:69
33. Psalm 89:21
34. Psalm 89:37
35. Psalm 93:2
36. Psalm 96:10
37. Psalm 102:28
38. Psalm 112:8
39. Psalm 119:90
40. Psalm 140:11
41. Proverbs 3:19
42. Proverbs 4:26
43. Proverbs 8:28
44. Proverbs 12:3
45. Proverbs 12:19
46. Proverbs 15:22
47. Proverbs 16:3
48. Proverbs 16:12
49. Proverbs 20:18
50. Proverbs 24:3
51. Proverbs 25:5
52. Proverbs 29:14
53. Proverbs 30:4
54. Isaiah 2:2
55. Isaiah 7:9
56. Isaiah 16:5
57. Isaiah 45:18
58. Isaiah 54:14
59. Jeremiah 10:12
60. Jeremiah 30:20
61. Jeremiah 51:15
62. Daniel 4:36
63. Micah 4:1
64. Habakkuk 1:12
65. Zechariah 5:11
66. Matthew 18:16
67. Acts 16:5
68. Romans 1:11
69. 2 Corinthians 13:1
70. Hebrews 8:6
71. Hebrews 13:9
72. 2 Peter 1:12

 

[tanakh]

The KJV is written in English. But which English? Its not that of the 21st Century.

Here are some of the words used at the time of King James and included in the Bible. How many do you recognise and use in everyday speech?

amerce = Fine, impose a penalty

beeves = Cattle Oxen Bulls

besom = Broom

bewrayeth = Betrays Reveals

Chode = Complains

Collops = lumps

Descry = Spy Out, make Search

Felloes = Curved section of a Wheel Rim

Gazingstock = something to stare at in wonder

Gier Eagle = Vulture

There are many more but this small sample reveals one reason that we have modern English translations and Publishers have to provide a translation with the KJV so that people can understand what they are reading.

 

[posthuman]

“lift up” or “lifted up” = 222 (37 x 6) times in the Old Testament

let me put it this way:

He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness:
but a false witness deceit.
(Proverbs 12:17)


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239 total searching both "lift up" or "lifted up"
((polling for "lift up" will return "lifted up" results as well))


28 of those are in the NT:

1. Matthew 17:8
2. Luke 6:20
3. Luke 11:27
4. Luke 13:11
5. Luke 16:23
6. Luke 17:13
7. Luke 18:13
8. Luke 21:28
9. Luke 24:50
10. John 3:14
11. John 4:35
12. John 6:5
13. John 8:7
14. John 8:10
15. John 8:28
16. John 11:41
17. John 12:32
18. John 12:34
19. John 13:18
20. John 17:1
21. Acts 2:14
22. Acts 4:24
23. Acts 14:11
24. Acts 22:22
25. 1 Timothy 2:8
26. 1 Timothy 3:6
27. Hebrews 12:12
28. Revelation 10:5

239 - 28 = 211 ≠ 222

 

[Snoozy]

posthuman u must be posthuman intelligence i got no idea what ur talking about. then again i dont have any idea what anyone is talking about.

im still busy dying to this flu.

are u a mathematician?

 

[hornetguy]

Make no mistake it about it though. I would never correct the King James Bible with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.

and there you have it.

Finally admitted that he worships the KJV instead of the words of God.

By all means, don't confuse him with the facts... with reality... his mind is made up.

This is very sad.

 

[John146]

and there you have it.

Finally admitted that he worships the KJV instead of the words of God.

By all means, don't confuse him with the facts... with reality... his mind is made up.

This is very sad.

Do you worship the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts?

When we exalt the word of God, we exalt the Savior of the word. The two cannot be separated.

 

[trofimus]

Do you worship the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts?

When we exalt the word of God, we exalt the Savior of the word. The two cannot be separated.

When you exalt specific medieval translation over any other from any era, its not exalting the Saviour.

 

[John146]

When you exalt specific medieval translation over any other from any era, its not exalting the Saviour.

You're entitled to your opinion. Remember, that's your free will to think that.

 

[trofimus]

You're entitled to your opinion. Remember, that's your free will to think that.

Do you know that there were people like you who protested against new English translation, because they were used to Latin Vulgate?

Latin Vulgate was used for 11 centuries in western Europe (eastern Europe used Septuagint) and they had very similar arguments why to stay with Vulgate as you have for KJV.

So, you would be a "modernist", corrupting the word of God, in those days.

"Who does not know history is condemned to repeat it."