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It is not that it is beyond the Creator's wisdom. It's that what modern science tells us about the earth, does not line up with what we see and verify here on earth. Therefore the NASA claim goes against the facts as to what God's creation truly is. It is not an accident of the universe. God describes the creation process as organized and instantaneous. He speaks things into existence. The big bang is the opposite.
Even if you want to say that God made the big bang, then where are the 7 days of creation?
Even if one thousand years is 1 day to God, that still is only 7,000 years.
Big bang process during the aftermath of it took Billions?
I implore you to do some testing and researching of your own.
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It can be overwhelming sometimes, the depths of deception, and you realize this world has such evil the average man cannot conceive of it. You used to think the world was a certain way and the Bible says exactly what your preacher said it says, all the "elected" officials were out for the good of the people...
But hey, all those lies on their best day does not even come close to comparing to the truth, and I'm glad the rose colored glasses have slipped a bit from my eyes. Oh yeah, I know I am still deceived in some ways. I don't expect to have all the truth in this life I doubt I could handle it!
I remember as a child, trying to imagine where God's dwelling/throne room was. It would have to be a bazillion miles away, couldn't think of Him spinning around with us above our spinning globe. Now I know, the Bible tells us where He is, and He is right up there, close. It's peaceful here and it's beautiful and it's special, the center of His creation. Up is up, down is down, and He has removed our transgressions as far as the east from the west. On a ball that last sentence makes no sense to me.
But hey, all those lies on their best day does not even come close to comparing to the truth, and I'm glad the rose colored glasses have slipped a bit from my eyes. Oh yeah, I know I am still deceived in some ways. I don't expect to have all the truth in this life I doubt I could handle it!
I remember as a child, trying to imagine where God's dwelling/throne room was. It would have to be a bazillion miles away, couldn't think of Him spinning around with us above our spinning globe. Now I know, the Bible tells us where He is, and He is right up there, close. It's peaceful here and it's beautiful and it's special, the center of His creation. Up is up, down is down, and He has removed our transgressions as far as the east from the west. On a ball that last sentence makes no sense to me.
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You assume I forget the nature of God because I don't believe what the world says. I do not see the logic. Just because you believe in the globe, I do not assume you forget how powerful our Creator is. I think He could have created anything He wanted to. I just don't believe he created it the way I've been taught in school. Big bang. Spinnin globe. Yep, that's what we were taught all those years ago. That was about, well in the 60s.
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When I was a child I rejected The Bible because it says the earth was flat, even then I didn't believe in the concept of taking "figurative" interpretations with God's word. I accepted evolution because man presented me with this complex evidence "good" men found, tested, and verified for me. I believed in outer space travel because it was pretty awesome men walked on the moon and lived in weightless environments aboard the tin can in the sky.
When one of the "protective layers" of my glasses fell off, I was filled with a deep regret and shame with myself for rejecting God. The deception was also overwhelming at first, but after repenting, trying to get right with Christ, and coming to terms with the evil in the world, I found some of that peace and beauty you experience knowing The Truth.
When one of the "protective layers" of my glasses fell off, I was filled with a deep regret and shame with myself for rejecting God. The deception was also overwhelming at first, but after repenting, trying to get right with Christ, and coming to terms with the evil in the world, I found some of that peace and beauty you experience knowing The Truth.
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Revelation 20:9-10 “And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
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They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.Read more at Top 7 Bible Verses About Armageddon
And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them.
And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them,
And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
They came up over the surface of the earth and surrounded the encampment of the saints, the beloved city. Then fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
They marched over the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. Fire came from God out of heaven and burned them up,
They went up on the broad plain of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and devoured them completely.
They went up over the breadth of the earth, and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city, and fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.
And they went to war upon an open place of The Earth and surrounded the city of the camp of The Holy People and of The Beloved City, and fire descended from Heaven from God and consumed them.
[I saw that] they spread over the broad
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You found peace and beauty~You found God ~It's shows. It's reflected in your words. It's great to see young people here who are passionate about truth.
Truth, the more faithful you are to it, the more truth you will get. You got a little truth and satisfied it's enough? Good. That's probably all you're gonna get. See how that works? We get what we ask for/pursue. Once you accept that gift of, love of the truth, you cannot get enough.
Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you.
Truth, the more faithful you are to it, the more truth you will get. You got a little truth and satisfied it's enough? Good. That's probably all you're gonna get. See how that works? We get what we ask for/pursue. Once you accept that gift of, love of the truth, you cannot get enough.
Do not forsake wisdom, and she will protect you; love her, and she will watch over you.
I'm sorry for your loss. I guess there really are people who are somehow led to believe in improbable things such as this. I probably shouldn't mock the flat earthers since there are some who genuinely, yet wrongly, believe these things. I guess it's just that I have a hard time understanding how rational adults could be led down this path. It's a bit scary in a way that people could be led to these absurd beliefs. Again, I'm sorry for your loss.
The devil and his angels are very very crafty at leading people down a road like this. All you have to do is open that door just the tiniest bit to let Satan and his demons usher in. 1 Corinthians 14 :33 tells us that God is not the author or confusion, and that goes with fear and paranoia, and that's exactly what the Flat Earth society is aimed for, conspiracy and questionability. It breaks my heart to hear someone bought into that and let it consume them. And what really gripes me is people saying organizations that can truly put a satellite or a person into space are liars and hoaxers, when SO MANY people who work for these organizations believe and follow the same God you and I do, are labeled liars. You're essentially bearing false witness against your brother/sister in Christ. That ain't right.
What's really interesting to me about flat earth society is they have yet to come up with ONE model that they all can agree on. They constantly bicker and gripe and fuss with each other about this model is accurate, this one, NO this one. They disagree on their measurements, and they have YET to give us ANY proof that the Earth is flat, when all they do is point to Youtube videos of amateurs and novices proving what we already know about the Earth. But everyone who believes in the globe has a model EVERYONE can agree on, and back it up with sound fundamental physics and science.....you don't think our God is capable of that?
Evolution and other stupid theories like that, I do NOT agree with because the Word teaches against it, and most of us who believe in a round Earth AND ARE SAVED, know this and laugh at it. But the Bible clearly does not say that the Earth is flat in shape. Period! You cannot dispute that. I've yet to see a verse of scripture that provides that info. Bear in mind, this was translated from the original Greek so meanings can take a very different measure.
Everything we have discovered doesn't hide God, and the scientists and leaders of the world know that. Deep down, they know it. They just choose to deny it. But we have every shred of proof to show that Earth is round, but with the flat earth society, it never ends, there is ALWAYS some form of answer (or in my opinion excuse) to try and rebut what people who TRULY work hard and spend their entire lives devoting themselves to a field of exploration and discovery. I work in this field everyday, I know these people work hard to do things only God allows us to do.
Let's not forget where the Flat Earth falls into.....CONSPIRACY THEORIES....and you and I know very well conspiracy theories are NOT proven. AuntieAnt, I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother, and I will definitely keep you and your family in my prayers. God bless you sister, and God love you!
What's really interesting to me about flat earth society is they have yet to come up with ONE model that they all can agree on. They constantly bicker and gripe and fuss with each other about this model is accurate, this one, NO this one. They disagree on their measurements, and they have YET to give us ANY proof that the Earth is flat, when all they do is point to Youtube videos of amateurs and novices proving what we already know about the Earth. But everyone who believes in the globe has a model EVERYONE can agree on, and back it up with sound fundamental physics and science.....you don't think our God is capable of that?
Evolution and other stupid theories like that, I do NOT agree with because the Word teaches against it, and most of us who believe in a round Earth AND ARE SAVED, know this and laugh at it. But the Bible clearly does not say that the Earth is flat in shape. Period! You cannot dispute that. I've yet to see a verse of scripture that provides that info. Bear in mind, this was translated from the original Greek so meanings can take a very different measure.
Everything we have discovered doesn't hide God, and the scientists and leaders of the world know that. Deep down, they know it. They just choose to deny it. But we have every shred of proof to show that Earth is round, but with the flat earth society, it never ends, there is ALWAYS some form of answer (or in my opinion excuse) to try and rebut what people who TRULY work hard and spend their entire lives devoting themselves to a field of exploration and discovery. I work in this field everyday, I know these people work hard to do things only God allows us to do.
Let's not forget where the Flat Earth falls into.....CONSPIRACY THEORIES....and you and I know very well conspiracy theories are NOT proven. AuntieAnt, I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother, and I will definitely keep you and your family in my prayers. God bless you sister, and God love you!
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Well you said it yourself. The argument that flat earth causes fear so it's not true isn't valid.
I'm going to stop engaging with you very soon, because I've already told you like 1 or 2 pages ago, all of the Christians aren't "liars", they are your fellow deceived. If you don't seem to retain what I tell you and continue to repeat your same dialogue, that will be for "us".
They are unknowingly bearing false witness, because they ain't right.
Most of this bickering is going on between the people in your imagination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection
That's the "map", a stand in. Still more accurate than the globe though.
The scientific community "bickers" all the time. It's called "peer-review", how many times has your globe model been changed, altered, and added to throughout the years? Does that make it less valid? You don't believe in evolution thankfully, but the same can be said about that. How many times has the "atom" been changed? Einstein's theories are also challenged. Pretty much any theory will have "bickering", that's healthy and how theories become "laws".
Here is such a weak and pathetic argument. Neither does The Bible say it is a "globe" with an "outer space" revolution anything like that. It's more closely resembles the flat earth model, yet you use this argument that it "doesn't blatantly say its flat" against it. It doesn't blatantly say it's a spinning ball contained in a giant "outer space" either.
You use figurative interpretations to explain away all the verses that support The Globe and disprove flat, which is every single verse referencing cosmology or topography. Hey it says stars are crashing into the earth, oh no, those are just asteroids or shooting stars. References someone seeing everything on earth from a high position, oh that's well don't worry about that. 4 corners and immovable foundation, pffff figurative, now go back to sleep and don't worry about any of it.
I agree deep down they know it too, and they choose to deny it because they are evil.
You live in some fantasy child world where "scientists and leaders of the world TRULY work hard and spend their entire lives devoting themselves to a field of extrapolation or discovery", yet deny the existence of God (the real one).
You think these people are "truly" pursuing the truth, yet do not come to a consensus and choose to acknowledge Christ and The Bible as divine and teach it in science. You have beliefs that are very conflicting and not accurately represented in the world you live in. Why is that?
They are truth seekers! Devote their life to the truth! Deep down they know the existence of God! Oh but they "just" choose to deny it. "just choose to". So ridiculous, that belief is more ridiculous than anything you have ever said.
Do you know what a theory is? All theories are "NOT proven" by definition, regardless if conspiracy is involved in their name. This is your very flawed logic at work again, trying to prove a point but really exposing yourself.
When false evidence enters the equation, what is a theory, accepted fact, or "law", becomes subjective.
If I see you repeat any of this diatribe in like two pages I won't be acknowledging it anymore.
I'm going to stop engaging with you very soon, because I've already told you like 1 or 2 pages ago, all of the Christians aren't "liars", they are your fellow deceived. If you don't seem to retain what I tell you and continue to repeat your same dialogue, that will be for "us".
They are unknowingly bearing false witness, because they ain't right.
Most of this bickering is going on between the people in your imagination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection
That's the "map", a stand in. Still more accurate than the globe though.
The scientific community "bickers" all the time. It's called "peer-review", how many times has your globe model been changed, altered, and added to throughout the years? Does that make it less valid? You don't believe in evolution thankfully, but the same can be said about that. How many times has the "atom" been changed? Einstein's theories are also challenged. Pretty much any theory will have "bickering", that's healthy and how theories become "laws".
Here is such a weak and pathetic argument. Neither does The Bible say it is a "globe" with an "outer space" revolution anything like that. It's more closely resembles the flat earth model, yet you use this argument that it "doesn't blatantly say its flat" against it. It doesn't blatantly say it's a spinning ball contained in a giant "outer space" either.
You use figurative interpretations to explain away all the verses that support The Globe and disprove flat, which is every single verse referencing cosmology or topography. Hey it says stars are crashing into the earth, oh no, those are just asteroids or shooting stars. References someone seeing everything on earth from a high position, oh that's well don't worry about that. 4 corners and immovable foundation, pffff figurative, now go back to sleep and don't worry about any of it.
I agree deep down they know it too, and they choose to deny it because they are evil.
You live in some fantasy child world where "scientists and leaders of the world TRULY work hard and spend their entire lives devoting themselves to a field of extrapolation or discovery", yet deny the existence of God (the real one).
You think these people are "truly" pursuing the truth, yet do not come to a consensus and choose to acknowledge Christ and The Bible as divine and teach it in science. You have beliefs that are very conflicting and not accurately represented in the world you live in. Why is that?
They are truth seekers! Devote their life to the truth! Deep down they know the existence of God! Oh but they "just" choose to deny it. "just choose to". So ridiculous, that belief is more ridiculous than anything you have ever said.
Do you know what a theory is? All theories are "NOT proven" by definition, regardless if conspiracy is involved in their name. This is your very flawed logic at work again, trying to prove a point but really exposing yourself.
When false evidence enters the equation, what is a theory, accepted fact, or "law", becomes subjective.
If I see you repeat any of this diatribe in like two pages I won't be acknowledging it anymore.
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Right and there wasn't any judgements in your post.
Don't acknowledge anything I said, just act above it. And you need to get over yourself and learn how to respect people "younger" than you. Tell Karraster she needs to grow up too. It's clear why you have adopted the globe, you have very narrow logic and can't see yourself accurately.
Don't acknowledge anything I said, just act above it. And you need to get over yourself and learn how to respect people "younger" than you. Tell Karraster she needs to grow up too. It's clear why you have adopted the globe, you have very narrow logic and can't see yourself accurately.
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Right and there wasn't any judgements in your post.
Don't acknowledge anything I said, just act above it.
Don't acknowledge anything I said, just act above it.
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Well I addressed this in your post. Saying anything that is confusing, causes anxiety, or fear isn't the truth, is flawed and pathetic logic.
When evidence is presented to disprove evolution, some may consider that dedicated to confusion of "real science". Or maybe you just think just anything you don't believe is true is from the author of confusion. More flawed logic.
And you need to get over yourself and learn how to respect people "younger" than you. Tell Karraster she needs to grow up too. It's clear why you have adopted the globe, you are narrow minded and can't see yourself accurately.
When evidence is presented to disprove evolution, some may consider that dedicated to confusion of "real science". Or maybe you just think just anything you don't believe is true is from the author of confusion. More flawed logic.
And you need to get over yourself and learn how to respect people "younger" than you. Tell Karraster she needs to grow up too. It's clear why you have adopted the globe, you are narrow minded and can't see yourself accurately.
I believe it because God has allowed me to work and see it, and I've done my best to be faithful to him. God has blessed me to be where I am, and enjoy what I do, and that's build and support the people and systems that allow to have the technology we have today. I stand with Christ, and He has opened my eyes, in more ways than one. And I can tell you....the Earth is not flat.