FLAT EARTH

[Karraster]

@ Michael Owen, there is so much false/ assuming/repetitive/switch and baiting going on in your posts I can't address for lack of time. There is however 1 thing that needs to be said, in rebut to your claim (that we are of FES):

For anyone reading here and honestly considering, the Flat Earth Society is not a reliable source. They have some good information mixed with such nonsense that most people will quickly turn away from the whole idea. That's the idea. Good day.

 

[pckts]

I believe it because God has allowed me to work and see it, and I've done my best to be faithful to him. God has blessed me to be where I am, and enjoy what I do, and that's build and support the people and systems that allow to have the technology we have today. I stand with Christ, and He has opened my eyes, in more ways than one. And I can tell you....the Earth is not flat.

Alright I'm adding you to my "do not engage list", because you have ignored two of my posts now, and when you do acknowledge them you act as though you speak and think on higher authority. Some people believe God has allowed them to "see" evolution.

I spent so much time addressing every point of your first post today, and you blew it off. I'm done wasting time on you.

 

[MichaelOwen]

Alright I'm adding you to my "do not engage list", because you have ignored two of my posts now, and when you do acknowledge them you act as though you speak and think on higher authority. Some people believe God have allowed them to "see" evolution.

I spent so much time addressing every point of your first post today, and you blew it off. I'm done wasting time on you.

Your fruit continues to bear out. I hope and pray you notice this brother

 

[pckts]

Your fruit continues to bear out. I hope and pray you notice this brother

There you go again not acknowledging the content of my post and acting above it. If you truly wanted me to notice you would point it out yourself, but you have no ground to stand on in that argument.

 

[MichaelOwen]

There you go again not acknowledging the content of my post and acting above it. If you truly wanted me to notice you would point it out yourself, but you have no ground to stand on in that argument.

I have ground, I have plenty of ground to stand on. I just prefer not to argue. Your posts are contradictory and honestly that bugs me. But I'm not gonna contest it with you. It's not worth it.

 

[pckts]

I have ground, I have plenty of ground to stand on. I just prefer not to argue. Your posts are contradictory and honestly that bugs me. But I'm not gonna contest it with you. It's not worth it.

If it's not worth it, don't post here expecting no rebuttal to what you claim. Don't criticize my posts on your own authority without being specific at all, and ignore my defense and anything that says otherwise.

You are the definition of self-righteous and close-minded. Criticize and accuse me, and then act above justifying your claims because I'm not "worth it". An elevated sense of self worth and inflated ego that does not respect or treat others equally.

Please put me on your ignore list, and I'll do the same I promise.

 

[MichaelOwen]

If it's not worth it, don't post here expecting no rebuttal to what you claim. Don't criticize my posts on your own authority without being specific at all, and ignore my defense and anything that says otherwise.

You are the definition of self-righteous and close-minded. Criticize and accuse me, and then act above justifying your claims because I'm not "worth it". An elevated sense of self worth and inflated ego that does not respect or treat others equally.

Please put me on your ignore list and I'll do the same I promise.

You do the same accusations accusing me and the people I work with and the organizations I support of being deceived and liars. Don't point the finger when 3 point right back at you. I'll be glad to put you on ignore, because I'm sure MANY of people have already done that

 

[Prov910]

Revelation 20:9-10 “And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Read more at Top 7 Bible Verses About Armageddon​

They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

New Living Translation​

And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them.

English Standard Version​

And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them,

Berean Study Bible​

And they marched across the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

Berean Literal Bible​

And they marched up over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the city having been beloved. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.

New American Standard Bible ​

And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

King James Bible​

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Holman Christian Standard Bible​

They came up over the surface of the earth and surrounded the encampment of the saints, the beloved city. Then fire came down from heaven and consumed them.

International Standard Version​

They marched over the broad expanse of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. Fire came from God out of heaven and burned them up,

NET Bible​

They went up on the broad plain of the earth and encircled the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and devoured them completely.

New Heart English Bible​

They went up over the breadth of the earth, and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city, and fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English​

And they went to war upon an open place of The Earth and surrounded the city of the camp of The Holy People and of The Beloved City, and fire descended from Heaven from God and consumed them.

GOD'S WORD® Translation​

[I saw that] they spread over the broad

So where in these passages do you find biblical support for a flat earth? I see where it says the earth has broad plains. And I know that's true because I've seen broad plains. Everyone has. But no where in this, or elsewhere, does the bible say that the earth is flat. How are you interpreting it as such?

 

[pckts]

You do the same accusations accusing me and the people I work with and the organizations I support of being deceived and liars. Don't point the finger when 3 point right back at you. I'll be glad to put you on ignore, because I'm sure MANY of people have already done that

Yes and then I justify and defend my claims without claiming divine revelation or unspecific generalizations.

Here is another unspecific general accusation with no bearing, hopefully the last one I have to deal with

Not enough.

Ok I'm gonna put you on ignore, my first person ever, because normally my detractors are more specific in their criticism, far less self-righteous, do not use divine revelation as an argument, and more respectful.

 

[MichaelOwen]

Yes and then I justify and defend my claims without claiming divine revelation or unspecific generalizations.

Here is another unspecific general accusation with no bearing, hopefully the last one I have to deal with

Not enough.

Ok I'm gonna put you on ignore, my first person ever, because normally my detractors are more specific in their criticism, far less self-righteous, do not use divine revelation as an argument, and more respectful.

No offense, but you kinda sound like a kid just out of high school. That stuff needs to be left at the door brother.

 

[pckts]

No offense, but you kinda sound like a kid just out of high school. That stuff needs to be left at the door brother.

I consider those that pull age cards and believe 4 years makes a difference in the elder hierarchy childish and offensive.

Please ignore me.

 

[Seedz]

You can't seem to consider the premise that you have already been confused and lied to. So going forward when the Truth is presented to you and contradicts your lie, you believe the confusing nature of this proves its not the Truth.

Doesn't the bible talk of great deception?

Doesn't the bible talk that even the elect will be deceived?

Your argument about God not being a God of confusion in regards to the revealing of the flat earth is irrelevant.

If anything, God is revealing these truths in these times because he wants his people to wake up and to take off the rose colored glasses.

You world is a lie, the air you breath is toxic, and the food you eat is killing you.

 

[Seedz]

No offense, but you kinda sound like a kid just out of high school. That stuff needs to be left at the door brother.

pckts is one of the more intelligent and articulate people i have come across on this site.

You truly don't know him enough to make such low blows.

 

[Seedz]

So where in these passages do you find biblical support for a flat earth? I see where it says the earth has broad plains. And I know that's true because I've seen broad plains. Everyone has. But no where in this, or elsewhere, does the bible say that the earth is flat. How are you interpreting it as such?

It says broad PLAIN. Singular, meaning the whole earth is a plain.

If that is not sufficient prove then I dont know what is.

 

[MichaelOwen]

Sorry, but I don't believe I am deceived. I know Jesus saved my soul from eternal damnation, and I know God allows me to see things and to experience things, and I'm blessed to be able to work in this field, and it's insulting to me when someone says my work is invalid or is false.

Get the plank out of your own eye before you try to remove the splinter from your brothers eye

 

[MichaelOwen]

It says broad PLAIN. Singular, meaning the whole earth is a plain.

If that is not sufficient prove then I dont know what is.

That's talking about the broad plain which is the plain of a field, it doesn't say whole Earth, completely out of context

 

[Prov910]

It says broad PLAIN. Singular, meaning the whole earth is a plain.

If that is not sufficient prove then I dont know what is.

Oh, okay. So for you to believe the earth is round the bible should have been written to say: "one of many broad plains on earth". Because that's how people write, right? LOL /shakes head

 

[Stranger36147]

Imagine two guys talking about this.

Guy 1: Dude, what if the world really is flat?

Guy 2: You mean like your girlfriend's chest? Zing!

 

[pckts]

Doesn't the bible talk of great deception?

Doesn't the bible talk that even the elect will be deceived?

Your argument about God not being a God of confusion in regards to the revealing of the flat earth is irrelevant.

If anything, God is revealing these truths in these times because he wants his people to wake up and to take off the rose colored glasses.

You world is a lie, the air you breath is toxic, and the food you eat is killing you.

He lives in a comfortable world where he has a meaningful important job and isn't being manipulated into simple labor. Could you imagine working at a "satellite" company or for NASA, and coming to the realization everything you do is not what is seems and your employer is lying to you and the entire world, possibly under the guidance of satan himself?

All those nut-jobs on the internet were actually right, even though you criticized them and said God has showed you otherwise? You never considered what they said and talked down to them because they and their opinions weren't worth acknowledging?

People don't want to let that possibility in and completely threaten their personal security and self-worth. No one likes being wrong, acknowledging opponents are right, and being ashamed of behaving self-righteous and justifying your beliefs with God under a deception.

It would take a humble, brave, and wise person.

 

[MichaelOwen]

He lives in a comfortable world where he has a meaningful important job and isn't being manipulated into simple labor. Could you imagine working at a "satellite" company or for NASA, and coming to the realization everything you do is not what is seems and your employer is lying to you and the entire world, possibly under the guidance of satan himself?

All those nut-jobs on the internet were actually right, even though you criticized them and said God has showed you otherwise? You never considered what they said and talked down to them because they and their opinions weren't worth acknowledging?

People don't want to let that possibility in and completely threaten their personal security and self-worth. No one likes being wrong, acknowledging opponents are right, and being ashamed of behaving self-righteous and justifying your beliefs with God under a deception.

It would take a humble, brave, and wise person.

You think we don't labor?.........boy what a judgmental person you're portraying yourself to be