FLAT EARTH

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tourist

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Some one already did this. It's on YouTube.

I am currently away from my pc but I will be back.
I watched a video of this on YouTube with the experiment being conducted in California. The laser was moving all over the place on the target. The laser was obviously not in a fixed position but stuck in the sand on a beach allowing it to sway all over the place. There was complaints of fog disrupting the experiment and that the light from the laser being a ball of light at the target instead of a concise beam of light. The whole thing was sloppy and amateurish. The mathematical calculation of curvature was also changed to suit their purpose. They were also worried about the local police arresting them. That doesn't surprise me.
 
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AuntieAnt

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Now don't say that the government has the area off limits becauces that's simply not true. I kow for a fact that Area 51 is in Nevada and not Utah. I saw this on X-Files.
That is true. I visited friends in Lincoln County, NV and Area 51 was a few hours drive east of us in the same county. :)
 
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toinena

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Have you noticed that when you go by airplane long distance e.g. from New York to Oslo, it takes an hour less than from Oslo to New York? Why? Because the Earth rotates "together" with the flight going west, and makes it longer. And it shortens the trip back.

So.... how would a flat earth theory explain that?
 
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Seedz

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Have you noticed that when you go by airplane long distance e.g. from New York to Oslo, it takes an hour less than from Oslo to New York? Why? Because the Earth rotates "together" with the flight going west, and makes it longer. And it shortens the trip back.

So.... how would a flat earth theory explain that?
an hour is marginal. A tailwind can save you almost 2 hours easy.

Again, you need to learn the basics and research from then on.

It is too much much info to learn in one sitting.
 

tourist

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Seedz

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The videos were a bunch of garbage, one of them showed a scene of a bunch of people playing volleyball. The experiments were not scientifically conducted using sloppy processes. I certainly hope that your belief in a flat earth is not based solely on trash presented.
You are missing the point.

I honestly don't know if I sent the right video. I don't have time right now to be looking because I got busy but I will review and follow up later.

i have presented far more examples to prove flat earth than just YouTube. In fact it is the first YouTube vid I reference and I just copied a quick link. As i mentioned I will check and follow up.

instead of fixating on absolute prove re read my posts and think about what I'm actually saying.
 

tourist

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You are missing the point.

I honestly don't know if I sent the right video. I don't have time right now to be looking because I got busy but I will review and follow up later.

i have presented far more examples to prove flat earth than just YouTube. In fact it is the first YouTube vid I reference and I just copied a quick link. As i mentioned I will check and follow up.

instead of fixating on absolute prove re read my posts and think about what I'm actually saying.
It's OK. You don't have to check up on anything. Flat earth or round earth God loves you. :)
 

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We often call friends in China, sometimes right around dusk when the sun is setting in the west. For them it's early morning and the sun is rising in the east. Sometimes we'll call a couple hours after the sun sets, and it will be morning in China. How can this be if the earth is flat? Have the Flat Earthers come up with a theory for this?
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(I asked a similar question above. Sorry if you answered it and I didn't see your answer.)
 
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When we look outside at the light and dark,and when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,we do not see any variances in the dark or the light,but as far as the eye can see it is the same shade of light,and the same shade of dark,however light or dark it is.

It is all the same light,and all the same dark,as far as the eye can see,and we see the sun as it comes up over the horizon,and goes down over the horizon,and it is the same shade of light,and the same shade of dark,all the way to seeing the sun.

There is no variances of light and dark as far as the eye can see,but it is the same light and dark as far as the eye can see at all times.

That would not be like that on a flat earth,and the sun always 3000 miles above earth,for the light of the sun could only go so far,and than have an end point,and then the dark,for there would have to be a dividing point that we can see between the light and the dark,and we would see a variance of light and dark,when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,and it would not be the same shade of light and dark as far as the eye could see.

We would see light coming our way for quite a while,while it is still dark in our area,and when the light passed our area,we would see the dark going in the distance for quite a while,and then be gone.

We would see the dark coming our way for quite a while,while it is still light in our area,and when the dark passed our area,we would see the light going in the distance for quite a while,and then be gone.

The light would chase the darkness,and the darkness would chase the light,for the light of the sun would have an ending point,and then dark.

It can be no other way.

For it is a flat earth,and the sun is always 3000 miles above earth,and the light can only go so far,and then have an end point and then be dark,and we would observe a dividing point between light and dark.

But on a globe earth it would make sense what we observe happening when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,for when the sun comes up over the horizon it is low,and when it appears then boom it gives light all at once,and it has enough light to go across the entire area of the earth,so there is no variance of light,but appears as if it is the same shade of light as far as the eye can see.

The same as when it goes from light to dark,for when the sun goes down,it is low but it has enough light to cover the area of the earth,and when it goes down then boom it is dark,and there is no variance in the dark,but it appears to be the same darkness as far as the eye can see.

On a flat earth,and the sun always 3000 miles above earth,we would see the dividing point between light and dark,and would see variances in light and dark at certain times.

But we do not observe that happening,but it is always the same shade of light and dark as far as the eye can see with no variances,for when the sun is coming up the light that is at the end where the sun is at is the same shade as the light in the opposite direction,and when the sun is going down it is the same shade of darkness as the darkness in the opposite direction.

Also mass attracts things to it.The force of attraction (gravity) between two objects depends on their mass and the distance between them.Gravity will pull toward the center of mass of the objects.To find the center of mass,you have to examine the object.

Consider a sphere.Since a sphere has a consistent shape,no matter where on it you stand,you have exactly the same amount of sphere under you.Imagine an ant walking around on a crystal ball.Assuming the crystal ball is polished,the ant’s only indication of movement would be the fact it’s moving its feet.The scenery (and shape of the surface) would not change at all.

Consider a flat plane.The center of mass of a flat plane is in its center,and the force of gravity will pull a person toward the middle of the plain.That means that if you stand on the edge of the plane, gravity will be pulling you toward the middle,not straight down like you experience.

What we observe between light and dark,and when it is going from dark to light,and light to dark,does not make sense on a flat earth with the sun always 3000 miles above the earth.

And how we experience gravity does not make sense on a flat earth.

But it makes sense on a globe earth.
 
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Yes I am familiar with Principia Mathematica.

Are you familiar with The incompleteness Theorem?? LOL

If you were, then using PM to entrap me wasn't the brightest idea.


Einstein is another sham.... You guys are not ready for any of this.
I wonder if anyone would bother to do a bit of research on Einstein. Maybe that would be a good starting point. Honestly, there are so many loose bricks in this wall of deception...if just 1 could be ripped out.

It really unravels easily once one get over the fact that they have been deceived. The fear of discovery melts away, along with the fear of having to change your life/lifestyle.
 
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Seedz

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how did Archimedes find whether Hiero's crown was pure gold or not? he measured displacement.

Ok let's dunk the whole earth in a tub.

Gold has a known density. The displacement experiment works once you have the weight and volume.
 
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Seedz

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no, it was actually exactly the predicted size, and was observed at exactly the predicted places at exactly the predicted time.

zetetic models on the other hand either predict no such thing as eclipses, solar or lunar, at all, or predict them several times per day at every location on earth -- depending on details that you guys never seem to actually fill in ((y'all tend to just change the subject when the question comes up, because frankly anything you say becomes obviously contradictory))

have you heard of the black sun in ancient cultures? Look into it.

The globe model is good at obscuring and twisting Facts. Who's to say that the elite that implemented the model actually use parts of the true model to fit their math and predictions?

The true information has been hidden for centuries.

there is a reason why every ancient culture taught that the world was flat.


Im not denying that science does show us many things. I'm denying that the globe is scientific.
 
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Seedz

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supernatural?

so you're saying sunsets, sunrises, seasons, coriolis effects, inertia, eclipses, phases of the moon & the inner planets, magnetic fields etc. are caused by trolls and goblins and angels and demons? and that's why there's no such thing as a consistent & coherent zetetic physical model that is useful in any way for any kind of prediction?

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vast technical and engineering knowledge" you say?

hmm.
You believe in Christ, that he was born of a virgin birth, but yet you try to rationalize everything else in creation?

You probably also also believe that the nephilim were just a bad people right.
 

posthuman

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Ok let's dunk the whole earth in a tub.

Gold has a known density. The displacement experiment works once you have the weight and volume.
Everything in free-fall is being displaced, in particular things we know the density of. Including bowling balls and masses on strings ((re: the well-known experiment you're ignoring)).

Didn't you say you had vast knowledge?
 

posthuman

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You believe in Christ, that he was born of a virgin birth, but yet you try to rationalize everything else in creation?

You probably also also believe that the nephilim were just a bad people right.
That's a deflection, not an answer.

Are you presenting an argument and justifiable conclusion or are you playing some kind of imaginary game where you try to amass 'cool points'?
 
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Karraster

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That's a deflection, not an answer.

Are you presenting an argument and justifiable conclusion or are you playing some kind of imaginary game where you try to amass 'cool points'?
I give "cool points" for humility, and for not dragging the debate down by personal attacks.
 

MichaelOwen

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When we look outside at the light and dark,and when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,we do not see any variances in the dark or the light,but as far as the eye can see it is the same shade of light,and the same shade of dark,however light or dark it is.

It is all the same light,and all the same dark,as far as the eye can see,and we see the sun as it comes up over the horizon,and goes down over the horizon,and it is the same shade of light,and the same shade of dark,all the way to seeing the sun.

There is no variances of light and dark as far as the eye can see,but it is the same light and dark as far as the eye can see at all times.

That would not be like that on a flat earth,and the sun always 3000 miles above earth,for the light of the sun could only go so far,and than have an end point,and then the dark,for there would have to be a dividing point that we can see between the light and the dark,and we would see a variance of light and dark,when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,and it would not be the same shade of light and dark as far as the eye could see.

We would see light coming our way for quite a while,while it is still dark in our area,and when the light passed our area,we would see the dark going in the distance for quite a while,and then be gone.

We would see the dark coming our way for quite a while,while it is still light in our area,and when the dark passed our area,we would see the light going in the distance for quite a while,and then be gone.

The light would chase the darkness,and the darkness would chase the light,for the light of the sun would have an ending point,and then dark.

It can be no other way.

For it is a flat earth,and the sun is always 3000 miles above earth,and the light can only go so far,and then have an end point and then be dark,and we would observe a dividing point between light and dark.

But on a globe earth it would make sense what we observe happening when it goes from dark to light,and light to dark,for when the sun comes up over the horizon it is low,and when it appears then boom it gives light all at once,and it has enough light to go across the entire area of the earth,so there is no variance of light,but appears as if it is the same shade of light as far as the eye can see.

The same as when it goes from light to dark,for when the sun goes down,it is low but it has enough light to cover the area of the earth,and when it goes down then boom it is dark,and there is no variance in the dark,but it appears to be the same darkness as far as the eye can see.

On a flat earth,and the sun always 3000 miles above earth,we would see the dividing point between light and dark,and would see variances in light and dark at certain times.

But we do not observe that happening,but it is always the same shade of light and dark as far as the eye can see with no variances,for when the sun is coming up the light that is at the end where the sun is at is the same shade as the light in the opposite direction,and when the sun is going down it is the same shade of darkness as the darkness in the opposite direction.

Also mass attracts things to it.The force of attraction (gravity) between two objects depends on their mass and the distance between them.Gravity will pull toward the center of mass of the objects.To find the center of mass,you have to examine the object.

Consider a sphere.Since a sphere has a consistent shape,no matter where on it you stand,you have exactly the same amount of sphere under you.Imagine an ant walking around on a crystal ball.Assuming the crystal ball is polished,the ant’s only indication of movement would be the fact it’s moving its feet.The scenery (and shape of the surface) would not change at all.

Consider a flat plane.The center of mass of a flat plane is in its center,and the force of gravity will pull a person toward the middle of the plain.That means that if you stand on the edge of the plane, gravity will be pulling you toward the middle,not straight down like you experience.

What we observe between light and dark,and when it is going from dark to light,and light to dark,does not make sense on a flat earth with the sun always 3000 miles above the earth.

And how we experience gravity does not make sense on a flat earth.

But it makes sense on a globe earth.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This makes complete sense