Verse for "once saved always saved"?

[DJ2]

No. You're not.

Honestly I've not once witnessed you being right on this forum even once. And you're still batting .000.

Congrats, at least you're consistent.

No. You're not.

What?

Are you not a sheep? Are we not just goats, hogs and dogs who think we are sheep?

Do you happen to be one of the lucky hand picked sheep and the rest of us are just poor dogs hopelessly trying to be sheep?

Its okay to be honest. You can call us what you think we are. We have thick skin, we are rather used to the names. After all its not your fault that we were not picked to be sheep. Just let us dogs and hogs enjoy our salvation fantasy for a little longer before we are cast in the lake of fire with the rest of the goats.

 

[DJ2]

There cannot be another this time.

One time is one time.

I think this is pretty simple math one corresponds to one.

I think its pretty simple you don't understand the question.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

How many times can you think you are saved but not be? How do you know when you really, really are saved this time?

I think scripture makes it clear. Whoever calls on the name of the lord will be saved, Whoever entrusts their eternity to him (has faith) will never perish, never die, live forever. Has eternal life and will be raised not he last day.

People who entrusts their lives to christ know when they were saved, I was saved over 40 years ago. Band I can remember the event like it was yesterday.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I think its pretty simple you don't understand the question.

She asked a question first. Why Is it you people (and yes I say you people, it seems to be a habit with people who teach and believe as you do) never answering questions, but trying to change the question to a question you feel you can answer.

 

[mailmandan]

I think scripture makes it clear. Whoever calls on the name of the lord will be saved, Whoever entrusts their eternity to him (has faith) will never perish, never die, live forever. Has eternal life and will be raised not he last day.

People who entrusts their lives to christ know when they were saved, I was saved over 40 years ago. Band I can remember the event like it was yesterday.

Amen! I can remember the night that I placed my faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Christ for salvation several years ago and was saved like it was yesterday as well.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Amen! I can remember the night that I placed my faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Christ for salvation several years ago and was saved like it was yesterday as well.

I worry about people who do not understand this or know this, it makes you wonder If they have actually ever experienced what we have?

 

[DJ2]

I worry about people who do not understand this or know this, it makes you wonder If they have actually ever experienced what we have?

Of course, since experience is what determines salvation.

If you don't experience salvation you don't have salvation. Am I correct or am I not understanding this?

 

[DJ2]

Amen! I can remember the night that I placed my faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Christ for salvation several years ago and was saved like it was yesterday as well.

Did you ever believe you were saved before that night?

 

[mailmandan]

Did you ever believe you were saved before that night?

I had no absolute assurance of salvation before that night. At best, I hoped "with fingers crossed" that I would make it to heaven.

 

[notuptome]

I had no absolute assurance of salvation before that night. At best, I hoped "with fingers crossed" that I would make it to heaven.

What a wonderful truth that in the presence of the gospel our righteousness is revealed as filthy rags.

I submit that we cannot become saved until we see how truly lost we are in the first place.

Far better to hope in Christ than to trust in self.

Oh what a wonderful change has been wrought sine Jesus came into my heart.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[DJ2]

I had no absolute assurance of salvation before that night. At best, I hoped "with fingers crossed" that I would make it to heaven.

But did you believe you were saved? Not unquestionable personal beyond any doubt unrevocable assurance but just believed you were saved?

 

[mailmandan]

But did you believe you were saved? Not unquestionable personal beyond any doubt unrevocable assurance but just believed you were saved?

Prior to that night? At best it was just a maybe at that time. Looking back from today, prior to that night, I know that I was not saved.

 

[mailmandan]

What a wonderful truth that in the presence of the gospel our righteousness is revealed as filthy rags.

I submit that we cannot become saved until we see how truly lost we are in the first place.

Far better to hope in Christ than to trust in self.

Oh what a wonderful change has been wrought sine Jesus came into my heart.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Amen! Until we get to the end of the creature we will not get to the beginning of the Creator.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course, since experience is what determines salvation.

If you don't experience salvation you don't have salvation. Am I correct or am I not understanding this?

Like I said, if you do not know. I can’t much help you. I can just ask what you did to think you are saved

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Did you ever believe you were saved before that night?

I spent weeks nightly asking God to forgive me, and save me, But never felt saved until that night. Mostly because I did not know what I was asking for. I needed more understanding.

 

[DJ2]

Like I said, if you do not know. I can’t much help you. I can just ask what you did to think you are saved

I thought you could not "do" anything to be saved?

 

[DJ2]

Prior to that night? At best it was just a maybe at that time. Looking back from today, prior to that night, I know that I was not saved.

But now you are sure your salvation is unquestionable personal beyond any doubt irrevocable assured? What is the difference this time?

 

[mailmandan]

But now you are sure your salvation is unquestionable personal beyond any doubt irrevocable assured? What is the difference this time?

Yes. This time I know that I believe in the name of the Son of God and I know that I have eternal life (1 John 5:13). Praise God!

Prior to that night, I was still trusting in works for salvation and not in CHRIST ALONE.

 

[Issachar92]

I thought you could not "do" anything to be saved?

Faith in itself is a work [of God]

Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Acts 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Acts 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

Acts 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.



The last chapter of the last book in the Bible states:

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Clearly the value of deeds cannot be underestimated. Its nice to see that the calvinists agree with me on this, atleast Tim Conway does.
Dont know how they mix it up with eternal security but i dont care, as long as the right thing is preached im cool.

 

[valiant]

I thought you could not "do" anything to be saved?

You can't. You can just cry out to the Saviour to save you.

HE does the saving