Genesis 6:4 "There were GIANTS in the earth in those days"

[lastofall]

[for me anyway] many are deceived by this: it is actually defined in the verse itself "men of renown" as we may refer to in modern time "giants among men" or a "giant of industry" or a "giant in shipping" and so on. Flesh is flesh, and that is all it is, no matter how much men try to manipulate and corrupt it; it is still and always will be mere flesh.

 

[Zmouth]

It's funny, I have never read any books, that are outside of the Bible, but, one must seek the truth, and understanding from every book. I have read the book of Enoch, it's.....very detailed, leaving nothing out. Thank you all for sharing, I must pray now to see what He reveals to me.

God Bless

What is funny how you have never read any book outside of the Bible but yet have read the Book of Enoch---

The Book of Enoch, if one denies that the LORD taught the Israelites how to communicate using the written spoken word then look up what language that the Book of Enoch was supposely written in.

But since there are many that claim that cuneiform (Sumerians) and hieroglyphics (Egyptians) were the earliest use of written language then one has to be able to distinguish between symbolic drawings and the written spoken word.

• It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Ex 31:17-18
• And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables. Ex 32:16
• And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book. Ex 32:33
• And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. Ex 34:1

Historians can't even begin to speculate the tongue (language) actually spoken by the Sumerians or Egyptians, and the use of windtalkers in WWII serve to demonstrate that fact. [Using the tribal language of native Americans the American forces in the Pacific were able to produce code talkers whose message could not be deciphered by the enemy.]

 

[Muzungu256]

I'd beg to differ because Jude quote from Enoch (Ethiopic Enoch):

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints."

By the way, Enoch was originally apart of the scriptures up to the third century.

its not in our bibles tho......
its still in the ethiopian orthodox canon u see

 

[OneFaith]

God did things physically in the Old Testament that He now does spiritually in the New Testament. Therefore, God had to physically show that being unequally yoked creates a big problem.

The sons of God are not angels. Angels are His servants, humans are His children. I am a child of God. And if you look in the geneology it says “Seth the son of Adam, and Adam the son of God. What was meant by this is that the offspring of Seth (God’s people) married out-landish wives (offspring of Cain- not God’s people). This is like if today a Christian man married an evil woman just because she was physically attractive. “What fellowship can light have with darkness?”

 

[garee]

Angels as messengers of God have no DNA. They cannot multiply.They are not subject to judgment as those created in His image, the church, male and female, as one creation. they are of another creation another kind . God creates things in kinds.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Not mighty angels, angels of renown.

There were still giants after the flood and people like who Joshua sent out .They seemed like grasshopper to them because they were not a walking by the faith that alone comes from hearing God but were being unevenly yoked with unbelievers..(daughters of men)

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.Gen 6:5

He did not repent that he made angels. Protecting the spiritual seed (one) Christ as to the generation of Christ (the new creatures) he cleaned the slate.

Gen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Sons of God are those who follow after the Spirit of God. The angels that left their first place of habitation are not considered sons of god. The sons of God are the believers who walk by faith( the unseen) Daughters of men represent those who do not walk by the faith of Christ that comes from hearing God .

The portion of scripture is pointing to the fact they were not to be unevenly yoked with unbelievers.

Satan remains without form (DNA) .He has no seed by which he could create taller men. We can see that by the use of Peter who blasphemed the name of God to help us understand the working of the antichrists.

Some are stilling waiting for him to appear as part of his deception. .

It helps us distinguish from the things of men (dna) the temporal as that seen, and things of God, the eternal not seen .We walk by faith. Not by a fear of giants.(things seen)

Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this "shall not" be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the "things that be of God", but "those that be of men".

 

[garee]

Hello Hizikyah,

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I like Enoch's version which says, "Now the angels, the sons of heaven, saw that the daughters of men were beautiful." This leaves no doubt that the phrase "sons of God" is referring to angels as those who took wives from the progeny of mankind, the result being giants.

And regarding these giants, Goliath would be a poor representation of them, for the prophesies of Enoch said that the offspring of the sons of God were 350 cubits tall, which would be over 400 ft.

Enoch said? It sounds more like Aesop's fables

It’s a parable that as hidden manna conceals the spiritual understanding from those who do walk by faith .The unseen eternal. But rather chase after a signs and wonders gospel by not applying the instruction for searching out the spiritual understanding hid in parables(without parables Christ the Holy Spirit of God spoke not) and the account in Genesis is no different signifying the things not seen . (do not be unevenly yoked)

Men who do walk by sight should feel like grasshoppers when thy do not walk by faith (the unseen)

We need the right prescription if we are to see clearing the things not seen with our eye or hear with our literal ears.

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

It’s a parable that as hidden manna conceals the spiritual understanding with those who do walk by faith .the unseen

Not searching for the spiritual understanding in parables make good Hollywood stuff. Like men over 400 ft tall.

Where do we find those bones that would not even fit in a football stadium??

 

[Hizikyah]

Angels as messengers of God have no DNA.

So you did a NDA DNA test on them? How do you know this? This is impossible for anyone to know...

They cannot multiply.

Among themselves, maybe with the genetic manipulation of humans by some means they can, either way all we know is what is written.

They are not subject to judgment as those created in His image, the church, male and female, as one creation. they are of another creation another kind . God creates things in kinds.

This is not true:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 6:1-6, “Should any of you, holding a matter against another, go to be judged before the unrighteous, and not before the set-apart ones? Do you not know that the set-apart ones shall judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge messengers (angels/fallen angels)? How much more, matters of this life? If then you truly have judgments of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are least esteemed by the assembly? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise one among you, not even one, who shall be able to judge between his brothers? But brother against brother goes to be judged and that before unbelievers!”[/FONT]​

 

[Ahwatukee]

Enoch said? It sounds more like Aesop's fables

Garee. Garee. always looking for the spiritual and missing the literal! Does the following which is found in Jude 14 sound like Aesops fables?

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints,"

If something interferes with your thinking you just turn it into a parable so that it doesn't mean what it says.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Angels as messengers of God have no DNA. They cannot multiply.They are not subject to judgment as those created in His image, the church, male and female, as one creation

Angels are not subject to judgment? What are you even doing on this site??

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment"

"And the angels who did not stay within their own domain, but abandoned their proper dwelling, He keeps under darkness, in eternal chains for judgment on that great day. [/quote]


So as you and everyone can plainly see, angels will be judged at the last judgment. Unless of course you think that the scriptures above are parables, which would be par for your course.

 

[Alertandawake]

One word that describes the mixing of 2 different species - Hybrid.

And the ability to do this exists today.

Have a read up on vaccines and their ingredients.

And the way I see it today, people are becoming hybrids and don't even know it.

At times it makes me think that with all the changes we see that is happening, tampering with all sorts of foods we eat, the water we drink (or any other drink for that matter), all this genetic modified crap that is happening with foods. My opinion, we are being prepared, like a jigsaw puzzle, all the pieces are being put into place to prepare the people, and like a jigsaw puzzle, there is one last piece that is needed to complete. And I often wonder if "the mark of the beast" is that final piece to complete the process.

We see people changing before our eyes today, their attitudes, their way of thinking. We notice today that many of these young generation cannot be reasoned with unless one caves in and agrees with the brainwashing doctrines they have been taught.

 

[heartofdavid]

One word that describes the mixing of 2 different species - Hybrid.

And the ability to do this exists today.

Have a read up on vaccines and their ingredients.

And the way I see it today, people are becoming hybrids and don't even know it.

At times it makes me think that with all the changes we see that is happening, tampering with all sorts of foods we eat, the water we drink (or any other drink for that matter), all this genetic modified crap that is happening with foods. My opinion, we are being prepared, like a jigsaw puzzle, all the pieces are being put into place to prepare the people, and like a jigsaw puzzle, there is one last piece that is needed to complete. And I often wonder if "the mark of the beast" is that final piece to complete the process.

We see people changing before our eyes today, their attitudes, their way of thinking. We notice today that many of these young generation cannot be reasoned with unless one caves in and agrees with the brainwashing doctrines they have been taught.

............BINGO.................

 

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FEE-FAI-FO-FUM is this where the Giants from what we know today, come from? Giants, sons of God, came onto the daughters of man, and bare children. Angels? Half-lings? or Demons? what exactly were these beings. All I know is, this one confused me. Many theories. All I know is the Bible said it, "Giants". They existed back then. Let me hear your thoughts on this one, were they Angles, or something else. I'm confused.

Thank You and God Bless​

No... The giants where not the sons of God that came into the daughters of men... The giants where the offspring of the union between the daughters of men and the sons of God... The sons of God where angels that left their first estate ( heaven)

Genesis 6: KJV
2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. {3} And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. {4} There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."


Lucifer is a fallen angel now called satan or the devil.. The book of Job reveals that Lucifer was also among the ones called the sons of God..


Job 1: KJV
6 "¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. {7} And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."


The Angels who joined satan will also share his eternal destination as it is revealed in Jude::


Jude 1: KJV
6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

 

[garee]

So you did a NDA DNA test on them? How do you know this? This is impossible for anyone to know...

If they had no form in respect to DNA in the garden it remains the same. Angels were not made in the likeness of God .God creates after kinds .That kind is not subject to salvation.

Among themselves, maybe with the genetic manipulation of humans by some means they can, either way all we know is what is written.

Who performs the work of that kind of new creature called genetic manipulation?

The only way is through the DNA of one seen like Peter. If we would check his DNA it would prove he is created in the image of God... one entity represented by two. I would think the those messengers are without mother or father who do have
DNA.

This is not true:

1 Corinthians 6:1-6, “Should any of you, holding a matter against another, go to be judged before the unrighteous, and not before the set-apart ones? Do you not know that the set-apart ones shall judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge messengers (angels/fallen angels)? How much more, matters of this life? If then you truly have judgments of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are least esteemed by the assembly? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise one among you, not even one, who shall be able to judge between his brothers? But brother against brother goes to be judged and that before unbelievers!”

The original (before the fall) pecking order of authority will be performed .Mankind (two as one) created in the image of God had authority over all things created before he gave it over to one without DNA.

When we receive our new bodies not made after the rudiments of this world we will be neither male nor female, jew nor gentile but like the angels in heaven that do not have DNA no way to procreate.. We walk by faith .The un-dna

Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Why would you even desire to give them form(DNA) seeing we walk by faith the unseen and not by sight as that seen?
What’s the hope in that?

Do we pray for deliverance when we a person taller than us? Like my wife.

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

 

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Angels taking corpral ( physical ) form..

Hebrews 13: KJV
1 "Let brotherly love continue. {2} Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares."

The story of sodom and galmorah shows angels coming into sodom to visit

Genesis 19: KJV
1 "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;"

Later in the account the men of Sodom call the angels men... Why because they had mens bodies..


Genesis 19: KJV
4 "¶ But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: {5} And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."

Now Lot stood at the door trying to prevent the men of sodom gaining access to the angels that where inside.. But the angels physically reached out of the door and physically pulled Lot into his house..


Genesis 19: KJV
9 "And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. {10} But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. {11} And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door."

So Angels can take human form and physically interact with them..

 

[garee]

Angels are not subject to judgment? What are you even doing on this site??

Sorry I meant not subject to salvation.

Not subject to salvation does not mean they are not subject to judgment. The gospel has nothing to do with that kind of creation.

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment"

Yes they were not subject to salvation.

"And the angels who did not stay within their own domain, but abandoned their proper dwelling, He keeps under darkness, in eternal chains for judgment on that great day.

Yes they were not subject to salvation.

So as you and everyone can plainly see, angels will be judged at the last judgment. Unless of course you think that the scriptures above are parables, which would be par for your course.

If the language is signified according to the prescription found in 2 Corinthians 4:18 Why would we not see it as a parable. Literal chains cannot hold a creature that has no DNA. Eternal chains are not subject to rust and corruption.

Without parables Christ the Holy Spirit of God spoke not to the multitude(believers and unbelievers “no faith”) ,hiding the spiritual understanding from those who walk by sight after that literally seen .It’s what the apostate Jews did they required that they walk by sight before they would believe. they stumbled over the cross making it without effect. To them the parables remained parables without the spiritual understanding of God.

It’s the signified language God uses to convey His spiritual understanding also called the hidden mana. Which ,when defined means “what is it” or “what does it mean” ? What kind of bread is it? Is it our necessary bread needed to sustain these bodies of death or supernatural bread as the daily will of God not seen?

 

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FEE-FAI-FO-FUM is this where the Giants from what we know today, come from? Giants, sons of God, came onto the daughters of man, and bare children. Angels? Half-lings? or Demons? what exactly were these beings. All I know is, this one confused me. Many theories. All I know is the Bible said it, "Giants". They existed back then. Let me hear your thoughts on this one, were they Angles, or something else. I'm confused.

Thank You and God Bless​

If you think "giants" meant some other-worldly creatures before the flood, then how do you deal with giants after the flood? When God wiped out the earth, he missed the giants?

Gen_6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Num_13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deu_2:11 Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
Deu_2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deu_3:11 For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Deu_3:13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Jos_12:4 And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Jos_13:12 All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Jos_15:8 And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Jos_17:15 And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.
Jos_18:16 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,

 

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You know how mankind is dabbling with genetic engineering? All in the search for cures... well consider if they were attempting hybrids.. all those myths and legends..

Who is feeding mankind information? The Truth is stranger than fiction.

All I saw was fiction though. And you're the one doing the feeding. (I'm merely not eating what you're serving.)

 

[Depleted]

One word that describes the mixing of 2 different species - Hybrid.

And the ability to do this exists today.

Have a read up on vaccines and their ingredients.

And the way I see it today, people are becoming hybrids and don't even know it.

At times it makes me think that with all the changes we see that is happening, tampering with all sorts of foods we eat, the water we drink (or any other drink for that matter), all this genetic modified crap that is happening with foods. My opinion, we are being prepared, like a jigsaw puzzle, all the pieces are being put into place to prepare the people, and like a jigsaw puzzle, there is one last piece that is needed to complete. And I often wonder if "the mark of the beast" is that final piece to complete the process.

We see people changing before our eyes today, their attitudes, their way of thinking. We notice today that many of these young generation cannot be reasoned with unless one caves in and agrees with the brainwashing doctrines they have been taught.

The "secret" to reasoning with young people is the same secret as reasoning with anyone. First start with something reasonable. You started with conspiracy-theory mumbo-jumbo and finished with it.

 

[Mercy4u]

what exactly was so wicked that was going on in Sodom?
God wiped them all out - just like He did with the flood.

later in Judges 19 we see very strong allusions to the same thing going on among 'the sons of Belial' who were desperately trying to get a Levite who visited the city -- it's said such evil had not been seen in all the land since before the Exodus! so when was such evil seen before? at Sodom? what were they trying to do there? what's so important about angels, or a Levite, that the wicked men were so desperate to get them?

all of Israel wiped out the city, and almost the whole tribe of Benjamin, over this. what was going on?
was it the same thing, in all three cases?
before the flood, at Sodom, and at Gibeah?

Christ said it will be as in the days of Noah, and as in the days of Lot, at the end of the age.


makes ya think, yes.

Seems to me satan would do all he could do to mess with the seed of the woman. Stop that womans( true/pure humanity) seed for a divine headache is surely coming!
Gen 3:15
New American Standard Bible
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

Gen 6:4
New American Standard Bible
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

FEE-FAI-FO-FUM is this where the Giants from what we know today, come from? Giants, sons of God, came onto the daughters of man, and bare children. Angels? Half-lings? or Demons? what exactly were these beings. All I know is, this one confused me. Many theories. All I know is the Bible said it, "Giants". They existed back then. Let me hear your thoughts on this one, were they Angles, or something else. I'm confused.

Thank You and God Bless​

Other names for nephilim:

Anakim (sons of Anak) – Num 13:33, Deut 2:11
Rephaim – in Deut 2:20, the word "giants" is the Hebrew word rapha'.
Zuzims – Gen 14:5
Emim – Deut 2:10-11
Horim – Deut 2:12
Zamzummim – Deut 2:20
Avim – Deut 2:23