How did Giants, the offspring of corrupt angels, survive the flood?

[trofimus]

There is no proof in Scripture that angels can produce offspring. Why do people insist that the "sons of God" refers to angels?

Because "sons of God" is term used for angels, in the OT.

 

[Blain]

I know that the general interpretation of the sons of God is that it was angels making giants but I don't know if that is actually correct, I mean the bible speaks of how man is able to have a seed and make children but never once has it ever spoken of angels having the ability to do that angels are rarely spoken of in general in the bible let alone the ability to make children.

It is obvious that men being huge like Goliath is not normal for humans but neither is being able to live as long as they did back then

 

[NayborBear]

Nowhere is Scripture that I am aware of explain this. I suppose it can only be one of to possibilities. !. They somehow did survive (I find this unlikley) 2. They did similar things post flood (I find this likley, as even Yahshua/Jesus said in the end times would be like the days of noah) However neither of these are 100% provable and are speculation, but Scripture does show they did exist.

Their evil spirit/s did not die. Although, the flesh that they "inhabited" DID!

That being said? That doesn't stop them from their relentless "petitioning" of mankind, both Godly, and "normal", although, more so Godly men, as the others pose no threat to their "collective DEMISE!"
And, perhaps, how these "giants" of yesteryear, are making their "comeback", is more attuned to this "beast" that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, and we should focus more towards "exo-skelatol" "Giants?" And how this, may come to be about?
Just something to ponder on.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Genesis 6:1-4 (NIV) tells us how giants came into existence before the flood, but how did they survive the flood?

Who says that they "survived"? According to both the OT and the NT, only eight human beings survived the flood. As to how giants appeared again on earth, we can only speculate, since the "angels which kept not their first estate" (before the Flood) were imprisoned in Tartarus.

 

[CS1]

There is no proof in Scripture that angels can produce offspring. Why do people insist that the "sons of God" refers to angels?
While the word giant does refer to men of great height, it also refers to men who are just brutal and mean.
Personally I do not believe that these giants are the offspring of angels but just big brutal men with earthly fathers.
Saul was considered a giant by some because he was so much taller than the average Jew.
Every generation has had giants, even today.

it makes good sifi movies

 

[posthuman]

I'm thinkin' that Ham's wife had the blood line of Nephilim. Ham didn't conceive on his own.

yeah we don't really know much about the wives of Noah's sons. so if you want to trace pre-flood bloodlines, they are the 'unknowns' upon which speculation naturally falls.

 

[garee]

it makes good sifi movies

Exactly . The invasion of the body snatchers part 11

 

[Zmouth]

it makes good sifi movies

Like Revenge of the Zamzummims. The six fingered half man/half man hermaphrodites that live on the planet Zamzum which is located directly on the other side of the Sun. Since Zamzum and Earth rotate around the sun at the same speed it has never been seen.

 

[unobtrusive]

I don't think they did. I believe that the ones after the flood were a re-occurrence of the same perversion. The fallen angels survived the flood.

I don't think it was a "re-occurrence according to Peter and Jude.

“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly” 2 Pet 2:4-6

“And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” Jude 1:6-7

 

[unobtrusive]

Their evil spirit/s did not die. Although, the flesh that they "inhabited" DID!

That being said? That doesn't stop them from their relentless "petitioning" of mankind, both Godly, and "normal", although, more so Godly men, as the others pose no threat to their "collective DEMISE!"
And, perhaps, how these "giants" of yesteryear, are making their "comeback", is more attuned to this "beast" that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, and we should focus more towards "exo-skelatol" "Giants?" And how this, may come to be about?
Just something to ponder on.

Ya. I know that people can be "demon possessed" even today, and that is proven by the casting out of Legion into the pigs. As I understand it, demons are the spirits of the once living, and now dead nephilim.

 

[unobtrusive]

I know that the general interpretation of the sons of God is that it was angels making giants but I don't know if that is actually correct, I mean the bible speaks of how man is able to have a seed and make children but never once has it ever spoken of angels having the ability to do that angels are rarely spoken of in general in the bible let alone the ability to make children.

It is obvious that men being huge like Goliath is not normal for humans but neither is being able to live as long as they did back then

In many instances angels appeared in human form in the OT.

 

[unobtrusive]

Since when did angels have DNA and begatting tackle?

Whose DNA would be in the "blood of Christ?"

 

[prove-all]

“Sons of God”
The phrase can be used three different ways in the Bible.

Genesis 6:2 says that the “sons of God” took wives.
Since they married women, they could not be angels.

3“The Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man.”

Here the sons of God are called man. Because these sons of God sinned,
God continues in verse 7, “I will destroy man whom I have created
from the face of the earth .…”

So far, not one word about angels!

With the flood, “all flesh died … and every man. … Noah only remained
alive, and they that were with him in the ark” (Genesis 7:21-23).

Angels are spirits and could not be destroyed by water.
If Angels and woman sinned in this, why punish man?

 

[Magenta]

In many instances angels appeared in human form in the OT.

Can you give even ONE instance where an angel appeared in human form in the OT, that was NOT at the behest of God?

 

[beastslayer1970]

There is no proof in Scripture that angels can produce offspring. Why do people insist that the "sons of God" refers to angels?
While the word giant does refer to men of great height, it also refers to men who are just brutal and mean.
Personally I do not believe that these giants are the offspring of angels but just big brutal men with earthly fathers.
Saul was considered a giant by some because he was so much taller than the average Jew.
Every generation has had giants, even today.

Job 1:6-

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

Job 2:1-
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.

What is your take on these scriptures? No human man can see God and live, can he?

 

[unobtrusive]

Can you give even ONE instance where an angel appeared in human form in the OT, that was NOT at the behest of God?

Read 2 Chronicles 18:21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the Lord said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

Logic. We all know that there were angels that fell from glory. There were angels with God, Adam, and Eve before the fall.

Rhetorical questions then... What was the fallen angels' purpose except to possess the earth and God's creation of humans? God walked with Adam the same way He did with Enoch. Adam and Eve were very well acquainted with the spiritual realm. The deception had to take another form...human.

Who wanted to be higher than God Himself, and who did he/they want us humans to worship? What are idols for? What is the good and evil knowledge we possess today, and where did it come from? Certainly, not God Almighty. The tree of good and evil was for the angels, not for humans. The tree of life was meant for humans.

 

[unobtrusive]

Who wanted to be higher than God Himself, and who did he/they want us humans to worship? What are idols for? What is the good and evil knowledge we possess today, and where did it come from? Certainly, not God Almighty. The tree of good and evil was for the angels, not for humans. The tree of life was meant for humans.

For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:5)

Who were these gods if they weren't angels?

 

[Magenta]

Read 2 Chronicles 18:21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And the Lord said, Thou shalt entice him, and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.

Logic. We all know that there were angels that fell from glory. There were angels with God, Adam, and Eve before the fall.

Rhetorical questions then... What was the fallen angels' purpose except to possess the earth and God's creation of humans? God walked with Adam the same way He did with Enoch. Adam and Eve were very well acquainted with the spiritual realm. The deception had to take another form...human.

Who wanted to be higher than God Himself, and who did he/they want us humans to worship? What are idols for? What is the good and evil knowledge we possess today, and where did it come from? Certainly, not God Almighty. The tree of good and evil was for the angels, not for humans. The tree of life was meant for humans.

In other words, not even one instance. Why can you not just say so?

 

[unobtrusive]

In other words, not even one instance. Why can you not just say so?

I'm not saying God didn't know they were involved with humans. I'm not saying that God restricted their (the angels) free will either, both for the angelic council and the human council. After all, if God hadn’t allowed, there would have been no reason for the plan of salvation to be engineered before the world was created.

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. (John 17:5)

I would suggest you read 1 Enoch. It is very enlightening concerning this subject. Foreknowledge doens't necessarily demand predestination.

 

[Depleted]

Genesis 6:1-4 (NIV) tells us how giants came into existence before the flood, but how did they survive the flood?

“When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the LORD said, My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years. The Nephilim (Giants) were on the earth in those days—*and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

*One of Ham’s sons was Cush, who became the father of Nimrod. Another was Canaan who was the father of the Jebusite, Amorite, Girgasite, Hivite, and seven other “-ites” as the KJV says, “and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.”

“For mine Angel (see John 1:1) shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.” (Exodus 23:23 KJV)

Israel was to conquer “Canaan Land” which was permeated with giants. Israel looked like **grasshoppers to them when the 12 spies were spying out the land before Israel’s infiltration according to God’s instructions.

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We know there were giants in the time of Joshua for sure because it is written in Numbers 13:30-35 (NIV)

Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, “We should go up and take possession of the land, for we can certainly do it."
But the men who had gone up with him said, “We can’t attack those people; they are stronger than we are."
And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. We saw the Nephilim (giants) there. We seemed like **grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.”
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Who, pray tell, carried the gene of the giants’ bloodline on the ark?

I don’t think it was Ham, even though he showed himself as being quite nasty to his father Noah.

Stop assuming something about "corrupted angels," since there is no biblical proof for that one. Just some new urban myth being accepted in the christian religion.