GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[posthuman]

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God.

I have asked one thing from the LORD.
This I will seek:
to remain in the LORD's house all the days of my life
(Psalm 27:4)​

 

[Hizikyah]

How many days were set apart/holy by the Creator of all that is?

 

[posthuman]

How many days were set apart/holy by the Creator of all that is?

did He set apart the new moon days and all the days and weeks of the feasts, or did Moses?

 

[Hizikyah]

did He set apart the new moon days and all the days and weeks of the feasts, or did Moses?

YHWH set apart/made holy the 7th day Sabbath and the Feast Days:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.[/FONT]



Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times*. The sun knows its going down."

“appointed times”is word #H4150 - Original Word: מוֹעֵד, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: moed, Phonetic Spelling: (mo-ade'), Short Definition: meeting, Word Origin from yaad, Definition - appointed time, place, or meeting


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 23:2-4, “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and say to them, ‘The appointed times (#H4150) of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], which you are to proclaim as set-apart (#H6944) gatherings (#H4744), My appointed times (#H4150), are these: Six days work is done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath (#H7676) of rest (#H7677), a set-apart (#H6944) gathering (#H4744). You do no work, it is a Sabbath to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]in all your dwellings. These are the appointed times (#H4150) of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], set-apart (#H6944) gatherings (#H4744) which you are to proclaim at their appointed times (#H4150)."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"appointed times" is word #H4150 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]מוֹעֵד [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]mow`ed (mo-ade') n-m. 1. (properly) an appointment, i.e. a fixed time or season., 2. (specifically) a festival., 3. (conventionally) a year., 4. (by implication) an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose)., 5. (technically) the congregation., 6. (by extension) the place of meeting., 7. (also) a signal (as appointed beforehand)., [from H3259], KJV: appointed (sign, time), (place of, solemn) assembly, congregation, (set, solemn) feast, (appointed, due) season, solemn(-ity), synogogue, (set) time (appointed). , Root(s): H3259[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"set-apart" is word #H6944 [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]קֹדֶשׁ [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]qodesh (ko'-desh) n-m. 1. a holy thing., 2. (of location) a holy place., 3. (of event) a holy event (i.e. a memorial)., 4. (abstract, rarely) holiness., 5. (double emphasized) Holy of Holies (the holy place of holy places, the most holiest place)., 6. Holy (Spirit)., [from H6942][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]KJV: consecrated (thing), dedicated (thing), hallowed (thing), holiness, (X most) holy (X day, portion, thing), saint, sanctuary. , Root(s): H6942 , See also: H4720, G39[/FONT]

Let us not foget these are not "Jewish day" but for all Israyl, and those in Messiah ARE Israyl:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."[/FONT]



Leviticus 23
1, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
2, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, and say to them, ‘The appointed times of יהוה, which you are to proclaim as set-apart gatherings, My appointed times, are these:

Seventh Day Sabbath:
Leviticus 23:3, ‘Six days work is done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a set-apart gathering. You do no work, it is a Sabbath to יהוה in all your dwellings.

High Sabbaths:
Leviticus 23:4, ‘These are the appointed times of יהוה, set-apart gatherings which you are to proclaim at their appointed times.

Passover:
Leviticus 23:5, ‘In the first new moon, on the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Pĕsaḥa to יהוה.

Unleavened Bread/Firstfruits:
Leviticus 23:6, ‘And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Matzotb to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread.

Feast of Weeks:
Leviticus 23:15, ‘And from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, you shall count for yourselves: seven completed Sabbaths.
16, ‘Until the morrow after the seventh Sabbath you count fifty days, then you shall bring a new grain offering to יהוה.

Feast of Trumpets:
Leviticus 23:23, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
24, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, saying, ‘In the seventh new moon, on the first day of the new moon, you have a rest, a remembrance of Teru‛ah, a set-apart gathering.

Day of Atonement:
Leviticus 23:26, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
27, “On the tenth day of this seventh new moon is Yom haKippurim. It shall be a set-apart gathering for you.

Feast of Tabernacles and The Last Geart Day/Feast of YHWH:
Leviticus 23:33, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
34, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, saying, ‘On the fifteenth day of this seventh new moon is the Festival of Sukkot for seven days to יהוה.
35, ‘On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
36, ‘For seven days you bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. On the eighth day there shall be a set-apart gathering for you, and you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. It is a closing festival, you do no servile work.
37, ‘These are the appointed times of יהוה which you proclaim as set-apart gatherings, to bring an offering made by fire to יהוה, an ascending offering and a grain offering, a slaughtering and drink offerings, as commanded for every day –
38, besides the Sabbaths of יהוה, and besides your gifts, and besides all your vows, and besides all your voluntary offerings which you give to יהוה.
39, ‘On the fifteenth day of the seventh new moon, when you gather in the fruit of the land, celebrate the festival of יהוה for seven days. On the first day is a rest, and on the eighth day a rest.

 

[Hizikyah]

I have asked one thing from the LORD.
This I will seek:
to remain in the LORD's house all the days of my life
(Psalm 27:4)​

Also I want to say this is a beautiful verse, may Yah grant us access to Him and His house continuallt and eternally!

For His house is a house of prayer for all people!

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiyl 48:35, "The distance around the city will be eighteen thousand measures; and the name of the city from that day will be: YHWH SHAMMAH (YHWH Is There)."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 60:20, “No longer does your sun go down, nor your moon withdraw itself, for [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]shall be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning shall be ended.”[/FONT][/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:23, “And the city had no need of the sun, nor of the moon, to shine in it, for the esteem of Yah lightened it, and the Lamb is its lamp.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:34, “And no longer shall they teach, each one his neighbor, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif],’ for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. “For I shall forgive their crookedness, and remember their sin no more.”[/FONT][/FONT]

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[LoveGodForever]

YHWH set apart/made holy the 7th day Sabbath and the Feast Days:

Genesis 2:1-3, “Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their array. And in the seventh day the Mighty One completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And the Mighty One blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which the Mighty One in creating had made.

Psalm 104:19, "You appointed the moon for setting the appointed times*. The sun knows its going down."

“appointed times”is word #H4150 - Original Word: מוֹעֵד, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: moed, Phonetic Spelling: (mo-ade'), Short Definition: meeting, Word Origin from yaad, Definition - appointed time, place, or meeting

Leviticus 23:2-4, “Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and say to them, ‘The appointed times (#H4150) of יהוה, which you are to proclaim as set-apart (#H6944) gatherings (#H4744), My appointed times (#H4150), are these: Six days work is done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath (#H7676) of rest (#H7677), a set-apart (#H6944) gathering (#H4744). You do no work, it is a Sabbath to יהוה in all your dwellings. These are the appointed times (#H4150) of יהוה, set-apart (#H6944) gatherings (#H4744) which you are to proclaim at their appointed times (#H4150)."

"appointed times" is word #H4150 מוֹעֵד mow`ed (mo-ade') n-m. 1. (properly) an appointment, i.e. a fixed time or season., 2. (specifically) a festival., 3. (conventionally) a year., 4. (by implication) an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose)., 5. (technically) the congregation., 6. (by extension) the place of meeting., 7. (also) a signal (as appointed beforehand)., [from H3259], KJV: appointed (sign, time), (place of, solemn) assembly, congregation, (set, solemn) feast, (appointed, due) season, solemn(-ity), synogogue, (set) time (appointed). , Root(s): H3259

"set-apart" is word #H6944 קֹדֶשׁ qodesh (ko'-desh) n-m. 1. a holy thing., 2. (of location) a holy place., 3. (of event) a holy event (i.e. a memorial)., 4. (abstract, rarely) holiness., 5. (double emphasized) Holy of Holies (the holy place of holy places, the most holiest place)., 6. Holy (Spirit)., [from H6942]
KJV: consecrated (thing), dedicated (thing), hallowed (thing), holiness, (X most) holy (X day, portion, thing), saint, sanctuary. , Root(s): H6942 , See also: H4720, G39

Let us not foget these are not "Jewish day" but for all Israyl, and those in Messiah ARE Israyl:

Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."

Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."

Leviticus 23
1, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
2, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, and say to them, ‘The appointed times of יהוה, which you are to proclaim as set-apart gatherings, My appointed times, are these:

Seventh Day Sabbath:
Leviticus 23:3, ‘Six days work is done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a set-apart gathering. You do no work, it is a Sabbath to יהוה in all your dwellings.

High Sabbaths:
Leviticus 23:4, ‘These are the appointed times of יהוה, set-apart gatherings which you are to proclaim at their appointed times.

Passover:
Leviticus 23:5, ‘In the first new moon, on the fourteenth day of the new moon, between the evenings, is the Pĕsaḥa to יהוה.

Unleavened Bread/Firstfruits:
Leviticus 23:6, ‘And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Matzotb to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread.

Feast of Weeks:
Leviticus 23:15, ‘And from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, you shall count for yourselves: seven completed Sabbaths.
16, ‘Until the morrow after the seventh Sabbath you count fifty days, then you shall bring a new grain offering to יהוה.

Feast of Trumpets:
Leviticus 23:23, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
24, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, saying, ‘In the seventh new moon, on the first day of the new moon, you have a rest, a remembrance of Teru‛ah, a set-apart gathering.

Day of Atonement:
Leviticus 23:26, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
27, “On the tenth day of this seventh new moon is Yom haKippurim. It shall be a set-apart gathering for you.

Feast of Tabernacles and The Last Geart Day/Feast of YHWH:
Leviticus 23:33, And יהוה spoke to Mosheh, saying,
34, “Speak to the children of Yisra’yl, saying, ‘On the fifteenth day of this seventh new moon is the Festival of Sukkot for seven days to יהוה.
35, ‘On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.
36, ‘For seven days you bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. On the eighth day there shall be a set-apart gathering for you, and you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. It is a closing festival, you do no servile work.
37, ‘These are the appointed times of יהוה which you proclaim as set-apart gatherings, to bring an offering made by fire to יהוה, an ascending offering and a grain offering, a slaughtering and drink offerings, as commanded for every day –
38, besides the Sabbaths of יהוה, and besides your gifts, and besides all your vows, and besides all your voluntary offerings which you give to יהוה.
39, ‘On the fifteenth day of the seventh new moon, when you gather in the fruit of the land, celebrate the festival of יהוה for seven days. On the first day is a rest, and on the eighth day a rest.

Woops ..................don't post scripture Hiz it scares people away

 

[LoveGodForever]

the point is that accusing everyone who worships God in an assembly on a 'wrong' day of the week of violating or forgetting the sabbath is absolutely insupportable nonsense.

Now posthuman really?

Are you calling God's Word "insupportable nonsense"? It is God's Word my friend not mine I am no one neither did I accuse you or judge you. If you feel convicted from the scriptures posted then you should hear the voice of God and harden not your heart because God is calling you through His Word.

God's Word will judge everyone of us in the last days as it is written; If any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. (John 12:47-48)

What we have been talking about is SIN. You are free to worship God on any day of the week and we should worship him who loves us EVERY day of the week but if your traditions lead you to BREAK any one of the commandments of GOD just like the Jews did in the days of Jesus, SIN will keep you out of God's Kingdom. (Hebrews 10:26-27; Matthew 15:3-9)

IN times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and like any of the ten, if we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

 

[LoveGodForever]

break command of God guilty,

God command to kill sabbath violator

SDA not kill sabbath violator

so SDA guilty and not follow sabbath law

Jackson I have no idea what you are talking about. You may have to explain yourself a bit better.

 

[LoveGodForever]

God rest oN sabbath so SDA rest oN sabbath is SDA farming rest oN yearly sabbath?

134 Exodus 23:11 - On ownerless produce of the Sabbatical year (shemittah) .
But the seventh year thou shalt let it rest and lie still; that the poor of thy people may eat: and what they leave the beasts of the field shall eat. In like manner thou shalt deal with thy vineyard, and with thy oliveyard.
135 Leviticus 25:4 - On resting the land on the Sabbatical year.
But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard.

Now Jackson, Seems like you are getting all your laws mixed up again despite so may scriptures you have ignored to help you.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Your questions were mostly centered around Old Covenant scripture that applied only to the Jewish people. In the New Covenant, however, the "gentiles" have been grafted in. I am sure that I could respond to all those questions, but I don't think it's worth the effort, since you have already made up your mind, and no amount of scripture quoting or reasoning is likely to change your mind. Why don't you find a lamb and sacrifice it to the Lord in the evening twilight? But don't forget WHERE you are supposed to be LOCATED when you do such a thing!

What did Jesus mean by "a New Covenant" if the Old one was REMAINING IN EFFECT?

What is the OLD and the NEW Covenant mean to you?

What does it mean the Gentiles are now grafted in?

If you could respond to all the questions that were sent you I am sure you would have done so already.

If you have God's Word to share let's discuss it.

 

[LoveGodForever]

All 613 Commandments in the Old Testament Law of Moses
www.gods-word-first.org/bible-study/...▼
All 613 Commandments in the Old Testament Law. There are a whole lot more than only 10 Commandments found in the Old Testament, there are 613 Commandments! Below is a list of the 613 mitzvot commandments (mitzvot is plural, mitzvah is singular). There are both "positive" and "negative" mitzvot (do's and don'ts) ...

Really?

How many commandments are in the 10 commandments? (Exodus 34:28; Deuteronomy 4:13; 10:4)

What is the Old Covenant to you and do you know what makes up the Old Covenant?

 

[gb9]

Woops ..................don't post scripture Hiz it scares people away

yes it does. like this - 1st John 3- the commands we are to obey - believe in the name of the Son and love one another. nothing about Sabbath . the works of the flesh and the fruits of the Sprit- not keeping the Sabbath is not listed as a sin, and doing so is not listed as a fruit.

it would seem like that those 2 would have been a perfect place to command Sabbath, yet nothing. curious , huh ?

 

[Jackson123]

Jackson I have no idea what you are talking about. You may have to explain yourself a bit better.

common brother, It is simple deductive Logic

 

[Jackson123]

Now Jackson, Seems like you are getting all your laws mixed up again despite so may scriptures you have ignored to help you.

don't you Said breaking one command mean breaking all?

not only human must be rest, according to the law of resting, land must be rest every 7 years because God rest every sebentar day. And because SDA breaking this law than you accused me mixed the law?

 

[Deade]

Hello, I am a Christian author/missionary. I agree the weekly Sabbath should still be kept. The Nicean Creed is the result of the Roman Church hijacking Christianity under Emporer Constatine. Some the resurrection was on a Sunday, but it was actually on a Saturday evening. Christ was buried just before sundown: and 3 days/3 nights add up to a sundown resurrection. I keep the Saturday Sabbath. I am not a SDA as I don't agree with any of Ellen White's writings.

If your worship God through Christ, that is enough but do not judge me for keeping the true Sabbath and I won't judge you.

Dennis Eades

 

[Inquistor]

"to share in the Lord's Supper"
​

is indeed "something quite different"

Sharing in the Lord's Supper is USUALLY DONE within the confines of a Church Service! The "supper" itself is now commonly called COMMUNION, across MANY different denominations of Christianity!

 

[Inquistor]

don't you Said breaking one command mean breaking all?

not only human must be rest, according to the law of resting, land must be rest every 7 years because God rest every sebentar day. And because SDA breaking this law than you accused me mixed the law?

Yes, breaking ONE little part of THE LAW was considered as breaking ALL of the Law! So, when SACRIFICING an ANIMAL in the evening twilight, it was to be done in the presence of ALL OF ISRAEL!!! How many on this forum GO TO ISRAEL each time, which is the LAW?


James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

 

[Inquistor]

Hello, I am a Christian author/missionary. I agree the weekly Sabbath should still be kept. The Nicean Creed is the result of the Roman Church hijacking Christianity under Emporer Constatine. Some the resurrection was on a Sunday, but it was actually on a Saturday evening. Christ was buried just before sundown: and 3 days/3 nights add up to a sundown resurrection. I keep the Saturday Sabbath. I am not a SDA as I don't agree with any of Ellen White's writings.

If your worship God through Christ, that is enough but do not judge me for keeping the true Sabbath and I won't judge you.

Dennis Eades

What day of the week was Jesus crucified on, based or your proposed timeline?

 

[Inquistor]

Yes, breaking ONE little part of THE LAW was considered as breaking ALL of the Law! So, when SACRIFICING an ANIMAL in the evening twilight, it was to be done in the presence of ALL OF ISRAEL!!! How many on this forum GO TO ISRAEL each time, which is the LAW?


James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Exodus 12:6 Take care of them until the fourteenth day of the month, when all the members of the community of Israel must slaughter them at twilight.

 

[Deade]

He was crucified on a Wednesday. The Romans said it was Friday because of the sundown Sabbath was approaching. But it says in John 19:14 it was the preparation day (crucifixion day) which is the day before the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Ask any jew what the preparation day is. Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening. He had already risen by early Sunday (John 20:1).