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how bout y'all give us one of those answers yourself and tell us where you got the idea we cannot tell whether something is of God or not?
and don't pass Gamaliel on a plate because he was not a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit He was a Pharisee and a teacher of the law
how about some answers addressing these scriptures?
why do you state we cannot know what is and what is not of God and instead state we should just watch and see just in case?
Hosea 14:9New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Who is wise?
Let him understand these things.
Who is prudent?
Let him know them.
For the ways of the Lord are right;
The righteous walk in them,
But transgressors stumble in them.
Romans 12:2New King James Version (NKJV)
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Philippians 1:9-11New King James Version (NKJV)
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment, 10 that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ, 11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
James 1:5New King James Version (NKJV)
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
II Corinthians
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
1 John 4:1King James Version (KJV)
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I, for one, would like a straight, simple honest answer why you seem to choose to bypass scripture and give the opposite advice
and don't pass Gamaliel on a plate because he was not a Christian filled with the Holy Spirit He was a Pharisee and a teacher of the law
how about some answers addressing these scriptures?
why do you state we cannot know what is and what is not of God and instead state we should just watch and see just in case?
Hosea 14:9New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Who is wise?
Let him understand these things.
Who is prudent?
Let him know them.
For the ways of the Lord are right;
The righteous walk in them,
But transgressors stumble in them.
Romans 12:2New King James Version (NKJV)
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Philippians 1:9-11New King James Version (NKJV)
9 And this I pray, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge and all discernment, 10 that you may approve the things that are excellent, that you may be sincere and without offense till the day of Christ, 11 being filled with the fruits of righteousness which are by Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God.
James 1:5New King James Version (NKJV)
5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
II Corinthians
12 But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.
1 John 4:1King James Version (KJV)
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I, for one, would like a straight, simple honest answer why you seem to choose to bypass scripture and give the opposite advice
Well, Ok, we see you cannot give a straight, simple, honest answer to that straight-forward question.
I find it commendable that Shrume could do it with one word. (I happen to agree with him) I wonder if anyone else can?
I'm off to church in a few minutes, but I am looking forward to reading when I get back.
I find it commendable that Shrume could do it with one word. (I happen to agree with him) I wonder if anyone else can?
I'm off to church in a few minutes, but I am looking forward to reading when I get back.
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I love my husband! 
I just presented this whole thing to him and asked his opinion if this could be God.
And he said, " I think they are just being all things to all people. Yes!
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak I became weak in order to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some of them.
1 Corinthians 9:23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel in order to have a share in its blessings.
I just presented this whole thing to him and asked his opinion if this could be God.
And he said, " I think they are just being all things to all people. Yes!
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak I became weak in order to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some of them.
1 Corinthians 9:23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel in order to have a share in its blessings.
I love my husband!
I just presented this whole thing to him and asked his opinion if this could be God.
And he said, " I think they are just being all things to all people. Yes!
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak I became weak in order to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some of them.
1 Corinthians 9:23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel in order to have a share in its blessings.
I just presented this whole thing to him and asked his opinion if this could be God.
And he said, " I think they are just being all things to all people. Yes!
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak I became weak in order to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some of them.
1 Corinthians 9:23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel in order to have a share in its blessings.
We don’t use tarot cards, or “Christian Destiny Cards” to win spiritualists.
There’s no biblical way to justify what that church in the OP is doing. They don’t know what they’re messing with.
You know Shrume, I don't drink, have never drank alcohol before I was saved, never did any illegal drugs, was raising babies while finishing high school. Married young.
But...when visiting the mother of a friend of my husbands, she offered me a glass of wine. I would of said no, but Holy Spirit spoke to me and said take it, she will be offended if you don't. So I did.
Wish I had remembered this earlier.
But...when visiting the mother of a friend of my husbands, she offered me a glass of wine. I would of said no, but Holy Spirit spoke to me and said take it, she will be offended if you don't. So I did.
Wish I had remembered this earlier.
You know Shrume, I don't drink, have never drank alcohol before I was saved, never did any illegal drugs, was raising babies while finishing high school. Married young.
But...when visiting the mother of a friend of my husbands, she offered me a glass of wine. I would of said no, but Holy Spirit spoke to me and said take it, she will be offended if you don't. So I did.
Wish I had remembered this earlier.
But...when visiting the mother of a friend of my husbands, she offered me a glass of wine. I would of said no, but Holy Spirit spoke to me and said take it, she will be offended if you don't. So I did.
Wish I had remembered this earlier.
There’s a lot wrong with using things of the occult.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with drinking. Christians are not to get drunk. I bet you didn’t get drunk, right?
There’s a lot wrong with using things of the occult.
There’s a lot wrong with using things of the occult.
I can't say about these cards. I haven't been there to see. All I know is what they say Shrume.
They say they are tools to use to prophesy over the people. I don't understand it. And I've never had anything to do with tarot cards. Don't know how they work.
Would you stand on your head just out of the blue, just because Holy Spirit told you too? Or would you rebuke the voice as the devil?
One was tested on this. She obeyed, and it resulted in a girl getting saved, because she had said, she would believe if someone is standing on their head. She goes through a door, and there she is.
Ive told this before so if you heard, forgive my repetition.
If they are using cards for anything it is wrong,for all power and benefits come from the Spirit.
The Holy Spirit guides us in to all truth,and shows us things to come.
God gives us peace,love,and joy.
We do not use physical objects thinking there is power there,for there is not.That is what people do of the occult,because they are in to nature worship.
And the thing with cards is you can do them over,and it would have a different outcome,but if it is truth the outcome will be the same every time.
Like tarot cards lay them out,get a prediction,shuffle them,lay them out,a different prediction,but if it is truth then it would be the same every time.
Cards are no better than a magic eight ball they shake and get an answer.
The new age movement interpretation of the Bible that is based on the occult,nature worship,exalts people,spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher(1 Timothy 4:1-5),and the new age movement is the future for this sinful world,and the time they will not want to listen to the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts.
With the cards it has to start some time when people who claim Christianity start looking at things from an occult point of view,and one thing leads to another,and the Bible says they some will depart from the faith,and will turn to an occult viewpoint of the Bible,until it is standard procedure in all the world as a unified religious system.
We would use cards for nothing that has to do with Christianity,and there is no benefit,or power,or truth there,but a waste of time,unless they want to use cards to play Euchre,or Spades,or Hearts,or a card game like that.
The Holy Spirit guides us in to all truth,and shows us things to come.
God gives us peace,love,and joy.
We do not use physical objects thinking there is power there,for there is not.That is what people do of the occult,because they are in to nature worship.
And the thing with cards is you can do them over,and it would have a different outcome,but if it is truth the outcome will be the same every time.
Like tarot cards lay them out,get a prediction,shuffle them,lay them out,a different prediction,but if it is truth then it would be the same every time.
Cards are no better than a magic eight ball they shake and get an answer.
The new age movement interpretation of the Bible that is based on the occult,nature worship,exalts people,spiritual evolution through nature,and Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher(1 Timothy 4:1-5),and the new age movement is the future for this sinful world,and the time they will not want to listen to the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts.
With the cards it has to start some time when people who claim Christianity start looking at things from an occult point of view,and one thing leads to another,and the Bible says they some will depart from the faith,and will turn to an occult viewpoint of the Bible,until it is standard procedure in all the world as a unified religious system.
We would use cards for nothing that has to do with Christianity,and there is no benefit,or power,or truth there,but a waste of time,unless they want to use cards to play Euchre,or Spades,or Hearts,or a card game like that.