“Christalignment" heard of this?

[posthuman]

btw i thought someone said the cards this thread is kind of about were "artistic" .. ?

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the pictures getting posted ((i assume these are the cards in question?)) sure don't make them seem that way to me. they're just text on a blank background, like cards against humanity or something.

*shrug* "artistic" can mean a lot of different things. i guess maybe whoever described them that way ((maybe i really ought to scour the thread for the quote)) meant they considered the font to be aesthetic.

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lol i post too soon, often.



i'll have my crow with catsup, plz.

still, though, this is like having a deck of marked cards - ain't it? if you have a different backing for each suit?
who knows. i don't even want to know whatever 'rules' there are for 'divining' with these things. 'technical objections' are probably fairly worthless to point out.

 

[posthuman]

No could about it.
I was exposed to ouji board as a youngster.
Very dangerous.

oh dude. i have been 'exposed' to far more evil than these things. but the One who lives in me has more power in one puff of breath from His nostril than all of the universe and every strange spirit combined. in His hand, i was never any danger at all. three were cast into the fire, but a fourth walked with them in it.

no worries

 

[stonesoffire]

i don't agree that we all get the same 'measure' -- and i can support that:

There is one body and one Spirit — just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call — one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift. Therefore it says,
“When he ascended on high he led a host of captives,
and he gave gifts to men.”[SUP]
(Ephesians 4:4-8)
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Yes, I must agree. I confused faith with Spirit in quoting that scripture. And thinking about it, of course the giftings are distributed according to the will of God. Thanks for the correction.
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this is just before, in this letter, he makes the oft-quoted remark that God gave apostles, evangelists, shepherds, teachers etc. there is of course the parallel here to 1 Cor. 12, about being of one body, each with different gifts. there, Paul does warn about envy & dissatisfaction, & that such envy should be overcome by the unity we share in the body, having one head, Christ - which relates back to the parable of the workers in the vineyard.

some people are given, by the Spirit, a measure of discernment or of understanding for example, that others spend years and years working to achieve. insofar as that sort of thing relates to however you happen to be using the word 'anointing' i do think that this parable applies. if we're talking about the same things here

The anointing is Holy Spirit. That I heard from the Lord after asking.

i could give examples from my own life and from scripture, and couldn't you think of examples too?

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Yes, but I don't think I will post any examples here. Or anywhere in the forum.. Will stick to doctrine. lol

 

[stonesoffire]

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lol i post too soon, often.

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i'll have my crow with catsup, plz.

still, though, this is like having a deck of marked cards - ain't it? if you have a different backing for each suit?
who knows. i don't even want to know whatever 'rules' there are for 'divining' with these things. 'technical objections' are probably fairly worthless to point out.

Am not entirely sure but I thought that the cards had some kind of characteristics that people would identify with and then the workers would give some kind of encouragement as to their destiny.

Not endorsing!

 

[BillG]

oh dude. i have been 'exposed' to far more evil than these things. but the One who lives in me has more power in one puff of breath from His nostril than all of the universe and every strange spirit combined. in His hand, i was never any danger at all. three were cast into the fire, but a fourth walked with them in it.

no worries

Amen, he who is in us is greater than all things.
We all need to realise it and walk in it.
A spiritual battle is going on

 

[preacher4truth]

Most of the heresy hunter energy originates from Hank hanegraff.

A extortioner and plagerist.

Fitting how poetic justice finds its mark.

So the Scriptural position to expose error came from Hank. Gotcha. It's amazing how you all justify your false teachings, defend wolves in the flock by calling those who expose you and them "heresy hunters." In fact it's even a bit funny how lame that worn out excuse is.

 

[stonesoffire]

Hi Stones.

If cards are used then they are endorsed, would you not say so?
I think for me the third realm is in us and it's not a place we have to go to.
That's why do not have to use anything as you say. Just rely on the Holy Spirit to bring revelation.

What concerns me with this thread is that this can lead to believers just relying on the faith of someone else for God to speak to them.
I was one who was like that.

So potentially what can happen is that people do the same.


Given the thread then people can seek out others for their faith in the hope that God answers and this is answered by a turn off a card.

Then this builds up, go again, what card is going to be turned over today.

Jesus is sat next to the Father, Jesus is in us.

It's a bit like believing, open the Bible, put your finger on a verse and that's what God wants you to hear.

So we see the verse and it doesn't seem to apply so we do it again.

Funny to me is the following example, yet sad at the same time.

Open the Bible and read about Judas

Matthew 27:5


5 Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.

Close and open again

Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”

I just do not want brothers to stand on someone elses feet but stand on their own two feet.


My thoughts also are that christenlightenmemt is not biblical, if it's not what is it?

I was always taught in Pentecostal churches that you hear from the Lord first and the prophetic is for confirmation.

It's a bit like believing, open the Bible, put your finger on a verse and that's what God wants you to hear.

Yeah, well we do strange things in our infancy. *not confessing nothin*

 

[posthuman]

Amen, he who is in us is greater than all things.
We all need to realise it and walk in it.
A spiritual battle is going on

yes
we should learn how to properly wield The Sword

 

[BillG]

I was always taught in Pentecostal churches that you hear from the Lord first and the prophetic is for confirmation.



Yeah, well we do strange things in our infancy. *not confessing nothin*

Yeah we all do strange things as infants. Mind you also as adults. Well at least I do.

 

[stonesoffire]

When a ministry allows this to go on in their church, and Bethel has, then it just endorsed it. Playing like they're not responsible won't line up with Scripture or before God. The pretense they aren't responsible is leftist ideology. The excuses for it on here aren't surprising in the least.

What exactly goes on in Bethel church preacher? I've never been there but I've seen a few pictures of the meetings. I've also heard teachings by Bill Johnson. Thrilled my little heart they did.

 

[stonesoffire]

Will they be doing christa-wheel-balancing next?

get in line then!

 

[BillG]

yes
we should learn how to properly wield The Sword

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I think too much theology is taught to the determent of practicality.

 

[stonesoffire]

yes
we should learn how to properly wield The Sword

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the one on the left is the devil I hope?

 

[preacher4truth]

What exactly goes on in Bethel church preacher? I've never been there but I've seen a few pictures of the meetings. I've also heard teachings by Bill Johnson. Thrilled my little heart they did.

You mean tickled your ears. I'm sure his false teachings match yours pretty closely. Saddening to be honest.

 

[stonesoffire]

Am I wrong but it seems a bit New Age to me

But, they are ministering to new agers...

 

[stonesoffire]

I'm sure his false teachings match yours pretty closely. Saddening to be honest.

Like what preacher?

 

[posthuman]

I think too much theology is taught to the determent of practicality.

in the swordfighting circles, much is said about focusing too much on technique & too little on things like situational awareness & tactics, and how that can lead to 'skilled' fighters losing matches sometimes quite embarrassingly to relatively untrained fighters who are more aggressive or who have a better knack for seeing openings and attacking them at just the right time. strength can overcome skill, and speed can overcome strength, and wits can overcome all three. a wise swordsman will grow in all those attributes

it's no accident He calls us "sheep" right??

 

[Locutus]

get in line then!

I gotta pick up some christatires before that.

 

[stonesoffire]

But "they're seeking it from God in the third heaven. It's just the Spirit of their gift of prophecy that is allowing Him to work through them. Its sitting down in his work. It's knowing your position with Christ. " Sincerity is all that matters, right?

Pfffft. It's utter nonsense and definitely not of God.

Eph 2:4　 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of his great love for us　


Eph 2:5　 even when we were dead because of our offenses, made us alive together with the Messiah (by grace you have been saved),　


Eph 2:6　 raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavenly realm in the Messiah Jesus,　


Eph 2:7　 so that in the coming ages he might display the limitless riches of his grace that comes to us through his kindness in the Messiah Jesus.
　
Eph 2:8　 For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God　


Eph 2:9　 and not the result of actions, to put a stop to all boasting.
　
Eph 2:10　 For we are God's masterpiece, created in the Messiah Jesus to perform good actions that God prepared long ago to be our way of life.　

 

[posthuman]

the one on the left is the devil I hope?

or the one who represents him

that's an illustration from Fiore; in his manuals he always painted a gold adornment on the 'king' or 'master' i.e. the person who holds the advantage in whatever encounter, or is showing the wise stance or guard. IMO there is a rich typology in this stuff