A Study of Torah from Gen. - Rev.

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Gen 7:12 And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.

Even for one that doesn't follow the meanings of numbers and letters, the number 40 simply can't be anything other than significant. This one number shows up some 7 or 8 times just in Torah. This tels us something about the number 40.
First it rained 40 days
Then Isaac was 40 years old when he took Rebekah as his wife,
Esau was 40 when he took Judith and Basemathas wives
40 cows were given to Esau by Isaac
400 years in Egypt
40 year in the wilderness
40 days to spy out the land
forty sockets of silver for the Tabinacle
That is just what comes to mind. So why is 40 so prominent? What does it mean?
40 generally symbolizes a period of testing, trial or probation. As this can be seen almost every time the number shows up. we will look at them all as they come to light, however, as can be seen here 40 days and nights of rain was not any that are named. It was however a sentence handed down, after man was tried for their sin. .

Exo 34:28-29 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water
Deu 10:10 Now I had stayed on the mountain forty days and nights, as I did the first time, and the LORD listened to me at this time also. It was not his will to destroy you.
Num 13:25 And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.
Then Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness, one year for each day they explored the Promised Land
1 Sam 17:16 For forty days, twice a day, morning and evening, the Philistine giant strutted in front of the Israelite army.
1 Ki 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
Jonah 3:4 and 10 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
Mat 4:1-2 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. {2} And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungered.
Acts 1:3 After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God
Genesis 7:13 went in as God had commanded him; and the Lord shut him in. what mercy and compassion God showed Noah by closing the door for him
 

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The Hebrew words used for light in Genesis 1:4 and Genesis 1:14 are two different words. In Genesis 1:4 the word ore is used. This is a different light than sun light. The same word is used to describe the light God gave the Israelites when it was dark in Egypt (part of the 10 miracles). So the light used in G1:4 was a supernatural light. It is almost like the presence of God created light.
Is this light the creation of Jesus
 

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As we move on, we find that in chapter 3 of Gen, It opens with the first sin of man kind. I have seen that some say it was sex. When asked how that can bee as HaShem told them to multiply? I got the strangest answer. it was something like this. Keep in mind this has been some time ago, so it is not a direct quote.
Eve had sex with the serpent, and that was where Cain from. Now just nut's is that? There are a lot of people that follow this teaching however. It has been used for years to show that just because a man tells us something, it needs to be studied in it's context, from Gen. to Rev.
21 The LORD God, made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. He showed them the first animal sacrifice. In Genesis 2:25 we are told they were naked and not ashamed. Then they sinned and knew they lost some kind of a covering so they try and make their own from fig leafs. God showed them this would not work by the sacrifice. God did not only make the garment for them to have but he clothed (covered) them himself. We must let God do the covering and summit to his will.

Hebrews 9:22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
Isaiah 61:10 I will rejoice greatly in the LORD, My soul will exult in my God; For He has clothed me with garments of salvation, He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness, As a bridegroom decks himself with a garland, And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.
In Gen 2:25 The word עֲרוּמִּם tramslated naked is a plural form because it applies to both Adam and Eve. It has the sense of nude. In Gen 3:10, & 3:11, we see the word עֵירֹם translated naked. Here the sense is exposed. Note the insertion of the י and the absent וּ with the ר resh now pointed with a רֹ cholem.
 

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The Hebrew words used for light in Genesis 1:4 and Genesis 1:14 are two different words. In Genesis 1:4 the word ore is used. This is a different light than sun light. The same word is used to describe the light God gave the Israelites when it was dark in Egypt (part of the 10 miracles). So the light used in G1:4 was a supernatural light. It is almost like the presence of God created light.
In Gen 1:4 The Hebrew word used is הַא֖וֺר translated ' the light'

In Gen 1:14, The Hebrew word used is translated מְאֹרֹת֙ lights. The addition of רֹת֙ Cholem thav to the ר resh in verse 4, simply makes it plural. In verse 4, the light itself is spoken of. In verse 14, what were created were light sources.
This is signified by prefixing the preposition מִן meen meaning 'from'. However the preposition is contracted to מְ and attached.
Even though Hebrew orthography requires that the preposition be attached; it is still a separate word.

The same word א֖וֺר is used in both verses. The only difference is that verse 14 uses the plural form.
 

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I believe the animal scorns that covered Adam-and-Eve were revelation 13:8 The lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If you believe in the types and shadows in the animal that covered Adam-and-Eve would have to be a shadow of what was to come
Scripture appears to agree with you.

Ge 22:8
8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
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There is an intentional double take here:

God will provide by Himself a lamb


Ge 22:13
13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.
KJV


God will provide of Himself a lamb

Jesus on the cross.

also:

Lev 17:11
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
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Gen 9:1 So God blessed Noah and his sons, and said to them: “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth.
Gen 9:2 “And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and on all the fish of the sea. They are given into your hand.
Gen 9:3 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
Gen 9:4 “But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.



As we see in verse 3, HaShem gave all things as food. There simply no way to change this, and I will not try to. Yet as we will see in Lev. when we get there, this was changed. At lest to some extent. .

God did not give Noah everything to eat, this was a test. When Noah put the animals in the Ark there were a pair of unclean animals and 7 clean animals of each type. Noah knew the clean animals from the unclean. If Noah ate the unclean animals they would no longer be on the earth. God showed he wanted to save the unclean animals or they would not have been on the Ark. Noah is being tested.
 

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Gen 12:1 ¶Now the LORD had said to Abram: “Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you.
Gen 12:2 I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing

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Terah (delay) Abraham’s father is interesting to me because he set out like Abraham to find the promise land but could not get passed the death of his son Haran. It looks from like he came to a land he named after his dead son and could go no further very sad. I know in my own life that great disappointments or sorrows can do this to many a people like Terah or the Israelites they keep going over the same ground or pain over and over and never make it to the place God called them. The LORD in both these cases Terah and the Israelites raised up the next generation to fulfill the call that could have been their fathers. This reminds me of Esther 4:14 For if you remain silent at this time, relief and deliverance for the Jews will arise from another place, but you and your father's family will perish. And who knows but that you have come to your royal position for such a time as this?" Terah was only 145 when Abraham set out for the land God would show him. Terah lived to be 205 why could he not go forward in life and move on with his living son, so sad.
 

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Gen 13:1 Then Abram went up from Egypt, he and his wife and all that he had, and Lot with him, to the South
Gen 13:2 Abram was very rich in livestock, in silver, and in gold. They separated from each other.

Genesis 13
2 things Abraham picked up in Egypt was Hagar and great earthly riches. What he had revived in Egypt became a snare to him. Hagar became a problem in the family with her son and Lot with the wealth between them.
 

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why does it matter if we call God HaShem?

for me, it would be breaking with the inspired tradition of the apostles

and replacing it with a Jewish tradition.


for me, that would be a dangerous path to start on.
I read some where that the Hebrew people started doing this because they did not want non Hebrew people to try and defile the name of God. Blessings
 

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Is this light the creation of Jesus


Jn 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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There is no such thing as the creation of Jesus; unless you are speaking of what He created.

It is all His creation!
 

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Jn 1:1-3
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
KJV


There is no such thing as the creation of Jesus; unless you are speaking of what He created.

It is all His creation!
Revelation 22: 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The Alef and the TAV
 

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Genesis 15
Genesis 15
I find it a wonder of God that Abraham who was given the land covenant was born in 1948 on the Jewish calendar.
Then Abram replied, "O Sovereign LORD, how can I be sure that I will actually possess it? In Genesis 15:8
Then Abram brought animals to the Lord to seal the covenant. When birds of prey came down on the carcasses, ( nations came against the covenant) Abram drove them away.
12 Now when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram ; and behold, horror and great darkness fell upon him.( Abram looked at what would bring his children into their land and it horrified him 13 Then He said to Abram: “Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, ( for a time they will be out of the land)
17 And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven (Holocaust ) and a burning torch that passed between those pieces. 18 On the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying: “To your descendants I have given this land.
Isaiah 66
Hear the word of the Lord, You who tremble at His word:
“Your brethren who hated you ( Many Christians did not help the Jews but called them Christ killers), Who cast you out for My name’s sake, said, ( nations did not taken them in for Yeshua’s name sake)
‘Let the Lord be glorified, That we may see your joy ( They Got their home land).’ But they shall be ashamed.”( other nations had shame when they could see the truth of what not helping The Jews did)
6 The sound of noise from the city! A voice from the temple! The voice of the Lord,
Who fully repays His enemies! ( Germany Judged ) 7 “Before she was in labor, she gave birth;
Before her pain came, She delivered a male child. 8 Who has heard such a thing?
Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day?
Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor,
She gave birth to her children. 9 Shall I bring to the time of birth, and not
cause delivery?” says the Lord.
Ezekiel 37
11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried ( WWII The Jew looked like skeletons) up and our hope is gone; we are cut off ( all hope look to be gone for them). 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them;( They did survive it was as if their grave was closed but hope came where there was no hope) I will bring you back to the land of Israel.( He gave them back their land) 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord ( they praised the Lord for this),
 

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Gen 9:3 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
God did not give Noah everything to eat, this was a test. When Noah put the animals in the Ark there were a pair of unclean animals and 7 clean animals of each type. Noah knew the clean animals from the unclean. If Noah ate the unclean animals they would no longer be on the earth. God showed he wanted to save the unclean animals or they would not have been on the Ark. Noah is being tested.
So what God spoke to Noah in Gen 9:3 was a lie?

I don’t think so...
 

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Gen 9:3 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
So what God spoke to Noah in Gen 9:3 was a lie?

I don’t think so...
Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the one to come. 22And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church.

1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

God did not give Noah everything to eat; this was a test. When Noah put the animals in the Ark, there was a pair of unclean animals and seven clean animals of each type. Noah knew the clean animals from the unclean. If Noah ate the unclean animals, they would no longer be on the earth. God showed he wanted to save the unclean animals or they would not have been on the Ark. Noah is being tested.
Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 2: 3 For if you cry for discernment, Lift your voice for understanding; 4If you seek her as silver And search for her as for hidden treasures; 5Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God.

God does not lie but also wants us to seek out the truth. I will not argue the truth is there for those who want to seek and think
 

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Gen 19:1 ¶Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground.

Is it made clear here that Lot understood he was seeing mortal men? Or was this just how a person greeted others in his day? I have heard this thought both ways. Yet neither teaching answered what in my mind was the key question to answer.
You see, in one teaching, they say that Lot know one of them was Yeshua. Yet they never answer what came of the one Abraham spoke with. It is after all clear that that was HaShem, or Yeshua, (being as they are one in the same). If Abraham was seeking to HaShem, and He is not found here, why? That answer is not given to us, so to answer it would be to assume, not something I would say is a good idea.
The other, can't give good reason for Lot to bow down before other men. Through out the Word, bowing denotes worship, Yet as we will see, Lot was still found righteous, and removed from the city.



Gen 19:2
And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.” And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.”

Some may say that it was Lots action that saved him. Yet as we seen, action was not it took to be found righteous, it was faith. Yet faith as we have also seen must be followed by obedience.
There are some that teach Lot was simply acting out of Love for his fellow man, and that it was love a lone that saved him. Yet they fail to show this concept in any of the Torah.
Gen 19:6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him,
Gen 19:7 and said, “Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly!
Gen 19:8 “See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

Take my kids. Like that's going to be something a truly righteous man would offer up. Most men back then, and even today would fight to the death for their kids. Yet lot was faced with a town, not just one or 2 men. He know he had no chance of winning a fight, yet at the same time, he may have also understood he had in his house 2 angles. So he was willing to do anything to save them. If the latter is true, then Lot didn't have a full understanding of what angles can do. This lack of understanding, may have lead to his willingness to give his 2 daughters up.
Gen 19:10 But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door.
Gen 19:11 And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

Do we find it sad that depravity ran so deep in the souls of this place, that even blinded they tried to find the door, so they could carry out their evil plain? This as we will see through out the Torah, seems to be recurring theme. Once the heart is set against HaShem and His laws, nothing short of the intervention of the Holy Spirit, will change them.

Gen 19:14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who had married his daughters, and said, “Get up, get out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city!” But to his sons-in-law he seemed to be joking.

It seems that his daughters were marred, so how is he said they had not known men? Some say Lot know that his kids had not known men, as the men they married were gay, and only married to gain Lots wealth. Yet others say Lot knowing the men were gay, picked them, so as to save his daughters for himself. Then there is the chance that Lot married them off to the men, to protect them. The answer is never told to us, what we do know is that the men found Lots story to strange to be true. I am sure that at some point Lot gave up. After all once a person starts the road of mocking another, there is no hope hope left of serious discussion, as every attempt to make ones point is turned aside with contempt.
An action I am sure we have all seen, or may have even taken part in.

Gen 19:17 So it came to pass, when they had brought them outside, that he said, “Escape for your life! Do not look behind you nor stay anywhere in the plain. Escape to the mountains, lest you be destroyed.”
Gen 19:18 Then Lot said to them, “Please, no, my lords!
Gen 19:19 “Indeed now, your servant has found favor in your sight, and you have increased your mercy which you have shown me by saving my life; but I cannot escape to the mountains, lest some evil overtake me and I die.

Knowing that bandits roamed the hills, Lot was scared for his life.
Gen 19:20 “See now, this city is near enough to flee to, and it is a little one; please let me escape there (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.”
Gen 19:22 “Hurry, escape there. For I cannot do anything until you arrive there.” Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

One may find that in the the Word, a truly righteous person is saved through miracles. Like Daniel, Sahdrak, Meshack, and Abendigo. Yet less righteous people are given the chance to save themselves. If that is the case, some as we know fail by turning back. To turn back, shows that ones heart is not in salvation, rather in own life, want's and hopes.

Gen 19:24 Then the LORD rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD out of the heavens.

The text reads as though Lot and his family had made it to Zoar before HaShem started the destruction. Yet as we see, Lots wife looked back.
Gen 19:26 But his wife looked back behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

At what point this came to be, we are not told. Yet there is one thing that we must see before going further.
Gen 19:27 And Abraham went early in the morning to the place where he had stood before the LORD.
Gen 19:28 Then he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain; and he saw, and behold, the smoke of the land which went up like the smoke of a furnace.

Some look at this and say that it was location. Lots wife could see the city, and Abraham could only see the smoke.
On the other hand, the sages teach us, Lot's wife was not worthy enough to see others being destroyed. Where as Abraham was. This they say was due to Abraham's willingness to plead for the lives of the righteous. As for Lot's wife, she was not due to her willingness to live in a sin filled city, and lack of resolve to leave it.

Gen 19:30 Then Lot went up out of Zoar and dwelt in the mountains, and his two daughters were with him; for he was afraid to dwell in Zoar. And he and his two daughters dwelt in a cave.
Gen 19:31 Now the firstborn said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man on the earth to come in to us as is the custom of all the earth.
Gen 19:33 So they made their father drink wine that night. And the firstborn went in and lay with her father, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.
Gen 19:35 Then they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose.

The carnal mind works in what it wants, thinking only of self, and not thinking of HaShem, or His power to do the things we see as impossible. True as it may be, they had not seen HaShem at work in their lives, they had seen His power at work, and had seen things, and lived through things that would turn the hearts of most people. Yet it seems that Lot had not passed on the faith Abraham had shown to him, through Abraham's willing to follow with out question, all that HaShem asked of him.

Gen 19:37 The firstborn bore a son and called his name Moab; he is the father of the Moabites to this day.
Gen 19:38 And the younger, she also bore a son and called his name Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the people of Ammon to this day.

As so little is said of their way of life, it is best we don't jump in say one way or the other. Then try to show it as fact. One thing is clear to us, They were related to Israel, and they did end up fighting with them. This fighting was most likely due to dispute over land.

Some say, and they may well be right, that both worshiped Baal. It is clear that war with them was a fact, and that neither won. They may have won a battle here and there, yet they never won the war.

One thing that we must note, is that Ruth was a Moabite. It seems odd to some that Yeshua would come from a mixed blood line. It also seems just as add to some that don't understand Torah, that Boaz would marry out side of the blood line of Israel. After all to do was against the Law. Yet every thing stated here is true.
So why did Boaz marry her? Did they mix the blood of their off spring to the shame of his people? I truly think the answer is no. They didn't mix blood lines, as for her not being ken by blood. True she was not from a direct line of Abraham, yet she was related by blood. Hens with her words,
Rth 1:16 But Ruth said: “Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God.

She rejected the actions of her own people, in favor of the Israelis. She reject the faith of her people, and took the faith of Israel.
Lots virgin daughters would have been in his house and his married daughter would be with their husbands. Lot must have had at lease 4 daughters 2 unmarried virgins and 2 married
 

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Genesis 19
In Genesis 14 Abraham father of nations comes against 4 kings one being called the king of nations. Some of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah fled to the Mountains. Lot stayed in the city and was taken prisoner. Lot could of lost his life but he was saved. Lot did not learn from this and went and stayed back in Sodom. Then Lot in Genesis 19 is sitting at the gate of Sodom. In The Bible gates mean Judge he was some kind of important man in Sodom. The 2 angels do not readily except Lots offer to stay with him. This is in contrast to how they took food with Abraham and they came to him. This looks to be a look at the men’s souls. Lot gets the 2 Angels to come to his house to protect them from the men of the city. I do understand that in Bible times if someone comes under your roof you do all you can for them. To keep with this code of ethics he tries to give the mob of people his 2 daughters. Lot would choose to shame his daughters his legacy in the world then to trust in God who had sent angels to him. Lot then goes to his sons in-law who think he is joking about the coming destruction . Why if Lot is so righteous is he not even able to make his son in –laws believe in the LORD. . Then when it is time to leave the city he lingered like he did back in Genesis 14 .2 Peter2:7 tells us that Lot was righteous and tormented by what he was seeing and hearing. Lot was given this great mercy but did not intercede for the people of Zoar as Abraham. His reason to spare Zoar was for himself. He was in fear the mountains were to far and he might be overtaken by evil. Even Lots own wife did not fully believe what was going to happen. She was to get into Zoar before Lot. Once Lot entered was when the destruction would start. Why did Lot not make his wife go before him so she would be safe? Why did she turn around was it the life she left behind or the children she would never see again. Lot was sent out of sodom not because of his righteousness but Abraham’s interceding Gen 19:29. Was the fact the LOT cried out about the wickedness but did not share the LORD or do any interceding for the people this could be why it was Abraham’s interceding that saved him.
 

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The birth of Yeshua and of Isaac
Both came at the appointed time Gen. 21:2, Gal. 4:4
Much time past from the promised to bring them into the world before they came.
Both pregnancies were miracles Gen. 18:13-15 , Luke 1:34-37
named before they were born Gen. 17:19, Matthew 1:21
Offering Up Of Yeshua and Isaac by their fathers
Offering of Isaac = father , son and Two witness.
Offering of Yeshua = Father, son and 2 witness.
Yeshua carried the cross and Isaac carried the wood
God brought the fire ( judgment ) and death on his son. Abraham took the fire in his hand and a knife. Hebrews 11:17-19
 

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Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the one to come. 22And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church.

1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

God did not give Noah everything to eat; this was a test.
What you are saying directly contradicts scripture.

Gen 9:3 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.

When Noah put the animals in the Ark, there was a pair of unclean animals and seven clean animals of each type. Noah knew the clean animals from the unclean. If Noah ate the unclean animals, they would no longer be on the earth. God showed he wanted to save the unclean animals or they would not have been on the Ark. Noah is being tested.
Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 2: 3 For if you cry for discernment, Lift your voice for understanding; 4If you seek her as silver And search for her as for hidden treasures; 5Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God.

God does not lie but also wants us to seek out the truth. I will not argue the truth is there for those who want to seek and think
That's right. God does not lie. He does not lie to us to test us.

Gen 9:3 “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
 

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Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the one to come. 22And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church.

1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

God did not give Noah everything to eat; this was a test. When Noah put the animals in the Ark, there was a pair of unclean animals and seven clean animals of each type. Noah knew the clean animals from the unclean. If Noah ate the unclean animals, they would no longer be on the earth. God showed he wanted to save the unclean animals or they would not have been on the Ark. Noah is being tested.
Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 2: 3 For if you cry for discernment, Lift your voice for understanding; 4If you seek her as silver And search for her as for hidden treasures; 5Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God.

God does not lie but also wants us to seek out the truth. I will not argue the truth is there for those who want to seek and think
If it were a test God would make it obvious:

Job 23:10
10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.
KJV


Ps 17:3
3 Thou has proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the night; thou has tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress.
KJV


Jer 12:3
3 But thou, O Lord, knowest me: thou hast seen me, and tried mine heart toward thee: pull them out like sheep for the slaughter, and prepare them for the day of slaughter.
KJV


Ex 16:4
4 Then said the Lord unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
KJV

God communicates clearly and means what He says.

There are exceptions; but God makes them quite obvious.
 

Shilo

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Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in the one to come. 22And God put everything under His feet and made Him head over everything for the church.

1 Corinthians 15:27
For "God has put everything under His feet." Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him.

Just as Ephesians said everything is under His feet we know this does not include the father but the verse does not say that. By understanding it is know that the father is not under the son. Just as Noah knew what animals were clean God did not have to explain it. If Noah ate the unclean animals they would no longer be on the earth because there was only 1 male and I female of each type. If Noah ate the male or the female they would not reproduce and all unclean animals would no longer exist
I will not argue the truth is there for those who want to seek and think . The test for Noah from God is obvious

Genesis 1:24Then God said, "Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind--livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals." And that is what happened.