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Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble.
1 John 2:10
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God
1 John 4:2-3
One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!"
But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence?
We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."
Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. "
Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
Luke 23:40-44
Repentance through seeing sin, confession by seeing the truth, salvation by showing faith.
1 John 2:10
This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God
1 John 4:2-3
One of the criminals who hung there hurled insults at him: "Aren't you the Christ? Save yourself and us!"
But the other criminal rebuked him. "Don't you fear God," he said, "since you are under the same sentence?
We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong."
Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom. "
Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise."
Luke 23:40-44
Repentance through seeing sin, confession by seeing the truth, salvation by showing faith.
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins,
having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Colossians 2:13-14
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,
in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath.
Eph 2:1-3
We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.
1 John 3:14
The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.
Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.
Rom 8:6-8
having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Colossians 2:13-14
As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,
in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.
All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath.
Eph 2:1-3
We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers. Anyone who does not love remains in death.
1 John 3:14
The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.
Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.
Rom 8:6-8
I think it died for all of us in the sense that we were born in Adams image. He was spiritually dead and so he brought forth the spiritually dead. For all of misty eyed sentiment about children being born in Gods' image and with His Spirit but then losing His Spirit when they sin, this is not what I get from scripture. What I get from scripture is that we deserve death because of whose children we are, like mephibosheth, and that we are born not in Gods' image but in adams image.
Thank God that we have a God who gave us a way out of the futility we were born into!
Thank God that we have a God who gave us a way out of the futility we were born into!
Gods wrath is not directed at man but at sin. If man refuses to forsake his sin then man is condemned with sin.
It is difficult with my impaired ability to love to understand how God is able to love man and hate sin without compromise. Perfect love and perfect hate is beyond my comprehension.
Man was created to love and worship God. No man is worthy and all men need mercy or they perish.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
It is difficult with my impaired ability to love to understand how God is able to love man and hate sin without compromise. Perfect love and perfect hate is beyond my comprehension.
Man was created to love and worship God. No man is worthy and all men need mercy or they perish.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
He hates (no blessing) the sin and the sinner so much that he put on corrupted flesh to put away sin in the flesh to those he does bless. He has mercy by blessing those who does have mercy on. To hate is the opposite of bless by loving a person.
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
I have to say this was not at all how it worked with me at all. I did not "believe and repent" at all to "earn" regeneration. When God granted me repentance I was at a point where I didn't even buy into the whole "God thing", and I had no idea what was about to take place (regeneration). In my case it was 1,000% God all the way, I did nothing at all and was literally awe struck and dumbfounded once I realized what had happen. When it says in Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
I understand that to include boast like "I repented" or "because I had faith", which I agree both take place, but they are both gifts from God as well, so I disagree strongly that "we believe and repent" first at all, otherwise it's not ALL God, and I think He clearly tells us it is.
My case made I do want to add I understand what you're saying, from our limited perspective it does seem that way, in time/space to us we may experience it that way, but if you have to believe or repent first, and God isn't doing it, then it is by something we do that we are saved, and we could then turn around and boast "I believed", and we have NO boast at all right? He gets ALL glory because He does EVERYTHING right?
8 For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
I understand that to include boast like "I repented" or "because I had faith", which I agree both take place, but they are both gifts from God as well, so I disagree strongly that "we believe and repent" first at all, otherwise it's not ALL God, and I think He clearly tells us it is.
My case made I do want to add I understand what you're saying, from our limited perspective it does seem that way, in time/space to us we may experience it that way, but if you have to believe or repent first, and God isn't doing it, then it is by something we do that we are saved, and we could then turn around and boast "I believed", and we have NO boast at all right? He gets ALL glory because He does EVERYTHING right?
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Hell was created for the devil and his angels not for man.
Mt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I think from the quote you offered that Washer is wrong. I do not know the context of his quote but it does not appear to agree with scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Mt 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I think from the quote you offered that Washer is wrong. I do not know the context of his quote but it does not appear to agree with scripture.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. Brought Near by His Blood
Yeah, but right now, God's still having mercy upon them.
We all need to be careful or we might fall into the get 'em Lord and punish 'em Lord type attitude. God says for us to have mercy.
Not saying you have this type of attitude, just saying we were all lost at one time so we all need to remember that and have mercy on others.
We all need to be careful or we might fall into the get 'em Lord and punish 'em Lord type attitude. God says for us to have mercy.
Not saying you have this type of attitude, just saying we were all lost at one time so we all need to remember that and have mercy on others.
God hates by not blessing all wonderful workers of inquity. The sinner as well as the sin . He does not bless them by taking away the penalty for their sin .Falling angels that are not led by the Spirit of God that left there first place of habitation are not subject to salvation. He simply does not know workers of inquity. They must be born again as new creature.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Mat 7:23
The everlasting fire is applied to both being prepared for all who do not know Christ as workers of inquity. They will not rise to new spirit life on the last day .God loves the sinner by working in him to both will and do His good pleasure. Only then could he love those as new creatures in whom he does work to both will and do His good pleasure.He takes no delight in the sinners before he gives them a new spirit.
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Mat 7:23
The everlasting fire is applied to both being prepared for all who do not know Christ as workers of inquity. They will not rise to new spirit life on the last day .God loves the sinner by working in him to both will and do His good pleasure. Only then could he love those as new creatures in whom he does work to both will and do His good pleasure.He takes no delight in the sinners before he gives them a new spirit.
Psalms 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
To be spiritually dead is to be separated from God because of sin.
[h=1]Isaiah 59King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="]59 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
The only way that sin can be covered or washed away is through the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ.
In Him we have life without Him we are dead. [/FONT]
[h=1]Isaiah 59King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT="]59 Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:[/FONT]
[FONT="]2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
The only way that sin can be covered or washed away is through the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ.
In Him we have life without Him we are dead. [/FONT]
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Not only did you answer my original question, you also answered a question I got to thinking when talking about this. You answered if that living spirit in me is mine, or God's. Not a temporary replacement spirit. Not the Holy Spirit, (although I suspect he is the one that maintains it for me.) My spirit!
Which, honestly, answers some of the question I asked EG about which part of us gets eternity. He was saying "spirit," but was talking soul too. I now get where the spirit part comes from. Which...
means I might finally be getting part of that dichotomy/trichotomy thingy I've never been able to get. I always knew this body got dumped at physical death. I just never knew what was left after that. Soul? Spirit? Both? Neither?
Between you and EG, I just got all the way up to at least partly understand what is left. "Spirit." It's mine. It was dead. It is no longer dead. And it gets to spend eternity with the Lord worshiping him and just downright enjoying him forever.
Way cool!
Soooo,
in your very minimalism style of writing, you just taught me more, in one, relatively short post, than I've learned in a very long time.
Thank you!
