mark of the beast

Ahwatukee · Jan 31, 2018

Yes, there will be many during that time who will rather die than worship the beast, his image or receive his mark, as described in the previous scripture that I provided. Those who will resist the beast, his image and his mark will be the following group:

"After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands."

"Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?”
“Sir,” I answered, “you know.”

So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." - Rev.7:9-17

The reference to these great tribulation saints washing their robes and making them white in the blood of the Lamb, is referring to the fact that they will not love their lives so much as to shrink away from death while keeping their testimony for Christ and the word of God. During that time they will rather be willing to die than to turn away from God in order to save their own lives. This group introduced here in Rev.7:9-17, is the same group mentioned in Rev.20:4-6 who John sees were beheaded and then he sees them being resurrected, their resurrection taking place after the Lord returns to the earth to end the age.

followjesus · Jan 31, 2018

Lucy-Pevensie said:

everything is a pattern, but the thing is they explain each other. not only a pattern, but a puzzle with all the peices to make a clear picture, another example from revelation

the law... a pattern saw through a dark veil

numbers 16:46 " And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun."

the prophets then begin revealing that this is a figure for something more that God is doing in the big picture

ezekeil 1 " 5Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. ...v 10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle. ...... v13As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning. "

ezekeil 10:2 " Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. 2And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight.

3Now the cherubims stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in; and the cloud filled the inner court. 4Then the glory of the LORD went up from the cherub, and stood over the threshold of the house; and the house was filled with the cloud, and the court was full of the brightness of the LORD'S glory. 5And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh.

6And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. 7And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen:<<<< who took it, and went out. 8>>>>And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under their wings."

then ( there are many more scriptures pertaining to this) but then when we see this in revelation ....it makes sense in the light of the 4 gospels and what Jesus has done for us in Heaven,

revelation 8 "And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.6And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound."

the Bible has been saying the same things from the beginning, man could not grasp the things in the end of the Bible, without being taught the things in the beginning that happened to cause everything. we couldnt understand the things shown in Heaven if we didnt first understand the law and the duties of the priesthood. all of the things dealing with the sanctuary are the priests duties. the preists on earth were only a way to begin teaching man of God, at that time revelation would have made no sense to anyone. but because we have the record of the law and prophets, it makes perfect sense knowing this is an image of atoement for mankind, by our High priest Jesus Christ. aarons atonement with animals vlood was only to teach us so we would understand what Jesus did.....its a pattern and repetetive, but it also leads somewhere it progresses from mans fall, to mans sentance, to Gods Mercy and mans redemption from our fall and ultimate glory being given eternal Life, who were dead. and all praise to Jesus we are alive again. the end was always being spoken, even the law was speaking of the things in the end, but e can only see it from the gospel its truly all about Jesus either before peaking of His coming, or after witnessing to His coming

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

The saints who are wise will understand and know either the name of the beast or his number.
That knowledge will allow saints to continue to preach the gospel and increase the harvest during the great tribulation at the end of days.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

One day, many years ago, when I began working at a new job, the Lord spoke to me saying, "As this building goes, so goes the world."
The next day, a MARK machine was stationed in my immediate area.
With it I could, for example, type in "Joseppi" and it would print it out as a black and white lined MARK bounded on both sides by astericks. Which could then be scanned into a computer and printed on its screen as *Joseppi*.

For a short time (about two weeks) the machines operation manual was available to study. The manual howed how the machine worked and gave examples of all the types of "marks" that could be selected for it to make.

I took the opprotunity to study that manual.

Not long afterwards while walking behind an outdoor mall I saw all kinds of discarded product packaging and whatnot laying around on the ground as trash. It struck me hard that someday mankind also would be marked.

The Lord taught me that there will come a time when the information about the mark of the beast will be made available.

But, I also learned that few in number are the men that will take advantage of that opprotunity.

Musicus · Feb 1, 2018

Joseppi said:

One day, many years ago, when I began working at a new job, the Lord spoke to me saying, "As this building goes, so goes the world."
The next day, a MARK machine was stationed in my immediate area.
With it I could, for example, type in "Joseppi" and it would print it out as a black and white lined MARK bounded on both sides by astericks. Which could then be scanned into a computer and printed on its screen as *Joseppi*.

For a short time (about two weeks) the machines operation manual was available to study. The manual howed how the machine worked and gave examples of all the types of "marks" that could be selected for it to make.

I took the opprotunity to study that manual.

Not long afterwards while walking behind an outdoor mall I saw all kinds of discarded product packaging and whatnot laying around on the ground as trash. It struck me hard that someday mankind also would be marked.

The Lord taught me that there will come a time when the information about the mark of the beast will be made available.

But, I also learned that few in number are the men that will take advantage of that opprotunity.

Sounds like some kind of label encoding machine for inventory control. So you are saying there will be some sort of manual on the beast's mark?

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

A great difference between the wise and unwise is that the wise see what is coming while it is yet far away.
The prudent prepare in a timely manner.

As I worked in that building over many years the Lord showed me the examples of what he mean't about how the world will change.

I was shown that the number of the beast is not based on numerology as many suppose it might. Although there are things about numbers that the Holy Bible reveals.

What I learned that may help some is that the merchantile system of the beast is a technological, artficially intelligent machine that at its deepest level runs on a simple but cumbersome numerical language.

Then I realized that every name entering the system becomes a number.

One of the first changes was that a name and picture associated with a numerically coded mark was required to enter the building.

Then the coded mark was used to enter into the computer that ran all functions within the building.

I learned that once in the building I was largely free to go about as I pleased.

In investigating the numerical value of a name that would equal the sum of...six hundred, sixtyb and six, I found that in the present system only a 9 letter name would work.

Which is curious.

Gabriel2020 · Feb 1, 2018

The mark of the beast is simply identified. It is a man that will have full control over the trade industry. And he will be a man, not a machine .His mark or his name will be on every product,and if you want to sell or purchase that product, you must bare his mark or his name. His purpose is to attempt to starve all the righteous to death that will not take the mark, or kill them. He will cause chaos. His mission is to kill steal ,and destroy as instructed by the dragon that will give him the power, Satan is his name.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

My point being that the beast system will not be perfectly secure and God has informed us how to enter in without the mark.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

I was told by the Lord that I am free to tell all that he has taught me. This I will do. Its up to each reader as to whether they disregard.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

I asked the Lord, Why doesn't Satan simply change his plans so that the prophecy of Revelation 13 can't come true?

For then the written word would be falsified as true.

The following is what God showed me.

He led me into library and showed me a small book that described how sunlight in plants functions.

A leaf cell at a molecular level is like a field of globular balls, out of which, an antenna rises up high above it.
That antenna is tuned to a particular wavelength that lies near the value of 666 angstroms.
That is why the plants must be green to obtain the energy required to sustain life.

In the same way, the beast system must use a particular frequency of light to facilitate the use of the "mark of the beast."

Gabriel2020 · Feb 1, 2018

Im not saying that there will not be machines involved, but the man will be behind it all.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

Many frequencies could be used, but the "mark of the beast" requires a particular design.

This is why.

What the Lord showed me is that when the angels were created they eached received a name peculiar to each.
As the angel that appeared to Samson's father revealed, knowledge of an angel's name is sometimes kept private.

This is because their individual names given them by God are their legal names.

On earth we identify our beasts with a mark of ownership peculiar to each particular owner.
The mark of the beast is the hidden name of Satan.
And all who receive it are owned by him.

That name is the hardest to discern because it is the mark of the king, of the kingdom of darkness.

As the name of Jesus has authority in the kingdom of light, so also does the true name of Satan in the kingdom of darkness.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

You are right.
The beast is the man, the kingdom, and the system also.

Gabriel2020 · Feb 1, 2018

That's heavy stuff.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

The man who is the beast is he that receives the authority of Satan on earth. Satan has no lawful authority on earth and so, he must usurp the authority of a man to obtain the authority over man that he seeks.
Satan obtained authority over Adam, mankind's first king when Adam obeyed his wife Eve. For the scripture says that a man is the servant of the one whom he obeys.
Usurpation occurs when a man gives his authority to another who buys it by some means whether tricked into it or not.
If the strong man allows the devils in he will become possessed until one greater authority casts the usurpers out of the house.

This is why Satan so quickly sought to control Nebuchadnezzar when he heard Daniel say to himb Thou art the head of gold. And also that Nebuchadnezzar was the king over all the earth man and beast. For that is the authority Satan is seeking to possess.
It was Satan who got Augustus Caesar to make an edict to tax all by requiring them to return to the cities of their origin.
For Satan knew the approximate time of Jesus' birth and that he would be born of the lineage of David and would be at Bethlehem.
There are other examples.

Musicus · Feb 1, 2018

Joseppi said:

666 angstroms (66.6 nanometers) is too short to be of use to most plants. The range is 400nm to 700nm in the visible light spectrum, and 300-400nm in the UV. But I know you're just using an example. Interestingly retina scanners use infrared (700nm to 1mm), which is increasingly becoming a major form of identification.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

Gabriel2020 said:

It behooves us to work together to prepare as the time of the end is near.
Daniel 12:4 proves what time it is. And therefore I know that the book is open and the words of no longer shut up.
Thus our faith assures us that the Lord is ready to show all men the truth of what is coming. However, I have found few that are seizing the opprotunity. It is very disturbing.

Joseppi · Feb 1, 2018

Musicus said:

You are right that the plant system is but an analogy.
But let me mention one thing till later, before I have to go for now.
Lucifer is a coded name combining "luci" (light, lucidity etc) with "cifer" or cipher. Meaning light cipher. That refers to the mark as a light cipher.
And suggests that the beast system will incorporate fiber optics on a global scale. Which fibers are advancing now. Already the fiber optic lines are laid first for governance and banking until they shall extend into homes.

I'll have expound on this later.
But, this building is now fiber optic and has direct fiber optic linkage to other corporate facilities and government. But I can't say more than that.

Alertandawake · Feb 1, 2018

In the past few years, I have spent some time researching more into this, the advancements of technology, looking at scripture to all references relating to the mark of the beast. With everything that is happening in the world today, all the evidence points to some kind of sophisticated device attached to a person. We are slowly headed towards a Orwellian type of society, and in my opinion the framework is mostly in place. And I am wondering if this 5G cell towers is the final part of this communications system that is needed?

So apart from nanotechnology, recombinant dna, implantable microchips, we now have Artificial Intelligence.

If I was a betting man, to me, it looks like technology is being praised in such a way that the world can be saved through the technology. But reality, we have become prisoners of technology, we have become to dependent on it. Look at what is happening with this Sophia robot. This robot seems to be the center of attention. This robot may walk and talk, but it will never understand the concept of being alive as we humans do.

But the most important part, already there are people using microchip implants being injected into their hands, for the purposes of paying for goods or services, of which has been successful. This turning point gives new definition to the way how business transactions operates.

garee · Feb 3, 2018

I don’t think it is one of those spiritual truths hid until technology advances? The chippy thing is relativity new innovation.

What will technology the new god of this world bring next?

I would offer as Christians I would think we would compare the spiritual understanding of a word mixing it with faith, the unseen, to the same spiritual understanding coming from the word. And not the technology of the world to the technology of the world .We do not compare the wheel to the electronic signature of a tattoo or a chip..

It’s not in reference to famine of groceries or home goods that we are to buy and not sell but the spiritual truth of the gospel. It is hid in the gospel as the hidden manna spoke of in Revelation. Only it can satisfy a hunger and a hunger and thirst for knowing g God when he does send a famine. It has nothing to do with the foods and drinks that are necessary for these bodies of death.

Amo 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Although the scriptures speak of mark there is no sign as a wonder attached to itcthat we are tosek after. It does not say be warned of those that have a literal mark .But always is in respect to the first indication where most doctrine finds its beginning in Geneisis.

The Mark of Cain marked as a restless wanderer (no Sabbath rest in Christ) as natural man marked with a word six hundred and sixty six. It sets the presence of how the word mark is used. Just as it says, the mark of natural unconverted man, one of the many beasts of the field made from the dust of the field.

It might work well for that purpose but again the buying and selling has to do with spiritual truth. Like for instance another man marked like that of Cain ,Esau, a person who sold the spiritual truth of conversion for a bowl of warm homemade so soup.

When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. Gen 4:12

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Revelation 13:16

Forehead and hand always represent the unseen will.It is no more a literal mark them us washing cloth in the blood of Christ it is used as a figure or parable of speak.

Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Forehead and hand always represent the unseen will

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest (Cain the restless wander) day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Revelation 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

As always

2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight

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