I never said that works do not follow genuine faith, yet we are saved by grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Like I already said, James is discussing the proof/evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18), not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God (Romans 4:2-3).
It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony.* Do you agree or disagree? Do you believe that man is saved by works?
Please it short
Don’t look for short responses from LGF, but only long winded posts full of scripture twisting, psycho babble, rhetoric and SDA propaganda.Please it short
Don’t look for short responses from LGF, but only long winded posts full of scripture twisting, psycho babble, rhetoric and SDA propaganda.That’s why I have him on IGNORE.
I never said that works do not follow genuine faith, yet we are saved by grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9). Like I already said, James is discussing the proof/evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18), not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God (Romans 4:2-3).
It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony.* Do you agree or disagree? Do you believe that man is saved by works?
Why so angry? There is nothing eye opening about false teachers twisting the scriptures and perverting the Gospel. Save it. I’m not easily fooled.I take it you didn't even read those scriptures.
Not surprised.
You ought to try it sometimes, it's a real eye-opener.
BTW, don't even try that "saved by works" crap on me either.
No, not angry.Why so angry? There is nothing eye opening about false teachers twisting the scriptures and perverting the Gospel. Save it. I’m not easily fooled.
It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.No, not angry.
I just get so tired of that "you're saved by works" strawman used on everybody that don't agree with you.
That's enuff to stop up a sewer treatment plant.
It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.
But if you do not know what the Gospel is how can you know what James is talking about?
if you only read the verses that fits your ellen white taught theology, how can you understand the law and Sabbath does not save.
By The Way,everyone that has reached the age of accountability and has not gotten saved yet, Is under law and will come short of the glory of GOD.
Amen brother and it’s a real shame to see so much zeal wasted on UNBELIEF (2 Corinthians 4:3,4).if you only read the verses that fits your ellen white taught theology, how can you understand the law and Sabbath does not save.
James 5:19-20 (ESV)It’s no straw man. Many people who are mixed up in various false religions and cults teach salvation by works and twist James 2:14-24 to fit their agenda. I don’t believe that James teaches salvation by works, as I clearly explained and if you agree then just simply say so.
double speak . making Sabbath keeping a requirement for salvation, which the Bible does not do.
all you folks who do not usually interact with this person, look at his posts, then do a little research on ellen white and the sda cult.
double speak . making Sabbath keeping a requirement for salvation, which the Bible does not do.
all you folks who do not usually interact with this person, look at his posts, then do a little research on ellen white and the sda cult.
The topic we were discussing is in regards to works and James 2:14-24 and not losing salvation. Do you believe that “justified by works” in James 2:24 means “accounted as righteous” or “shown to be righteous?”James 5:19-20 (ESV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, [SUP]20 [/SUP] let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, [SUP]20 [/SUP] let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
James 5:19-20 (NIV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, [SUP]20 [/SUP] remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.
Salvation can be lost when true repentance ends.