KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE VS. MODERN ENGLISH BIBLE
- Thread starter KingJamesVersionBibleOnly
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
No, I agree 100 % that it isn't.
The Word of God is an essential issue. If you don't believe that looking into the versions issue is important, you are potentially allowing your doctrine to get corrupted by the agendas of modern translation committees.
Nevertheless, can you read an NIV and come to the knowledge that you are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ? And do you believe that with all your heart? I believe you can, and have known others who have. No dispute there from me
The Word of God is an essential issue. If you don't believe that looking into the versions issue is important, you are potentially allowing your doctrine to get corrupted by the agendas of modern translation committees.
Nevertheless, can you read an NIV and come to the knowledge that you are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ? And do you believe that with all your heart? I believe you can, and have known others who have. No dispute there from me
Something i find in the KJV vs Modern English Translations
- KJV argument is always only strengthened while newer translations feel they are stuck defending their perversion of choice.
(not a sign from God alone? Then let it take from your spirit, leaving you unhappy)
- Everyone always runs to the KJV for final authorty confirmation.
- Because Satan is so ever working as much as God Himslef, 1 Peter 5:8 (KJV), The newer translations as a group attack the King James; usually differing doctrinely.
Please have a Blissful awakaning.
- KJV argument is always only strengthened while newer translations feel they are stuck defending their perversion of choice.
(not a sign from God alone? Then let it take from your spirit, leaving you unhappy)
- Everyone always runs to the KJV for final authorty confirmation.
- Because Satan is so ever working as much as God Himslef, 1 Peter 5:8 (KJV), The newer translations as a group attack the King James; usually differing doctrinely.
Please have a Blissful awakaning.
E
I havce not went to the KJV for years. Nor have any in my church. We have gone to greek and hebrew texts to make sure we get the word right when a question arises. My church uses NASB as its main bible. Many have switched to the ESV. I continue to use me NKJV, and guess what, We all believe the same (except on a few issues which no bible version can really correct) and when we come to the Bible study (we do not believe in 20 minute sermonettes, but a walk through of a book of the Bible) we (no matter what bible we have or use) all come to the same conclussion as to what is being said.
One major problem I have with some new versions when it comes to salvation is Romans 10:9. Most say the following:
ESV - because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Only one who is already saved can confess with their mouth Jesus is Lord. A lost person cannot confess with their mouth Jesus is Lord. They must first confess the Lord Jesus, that is the testimony concerning Him. One day all will confess Jesus is Lord but most will not be saved.
ESV - because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Only one who is already saved can confess with their mouth Jesus is Lord. A lost person cannot confess with their mouth Jesus is Lord. They must first confess the Lord Jesus, that is the testimony concerning Him. One day all will confess Jesus is Lord but most will not be saved.
Nope.
The new bibles change the right confession into a false confession. Jesus Christ is THE Lord of eternal salvation. Confessing the Lord Jesus is the same as confessing the testimony concerning Him, His death, burial and resurrection.
And Jesus is not Lord, but He is THE Lord.
1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Even Satan will confess Jesus is Lord. See Philippians 2:8-11. This does not mean Satan is saved through this confession.
The new bibles change the right confession into a false confession. Jesus Christ is THE Lord of eternal salvation. Confessing the Lord Jesus is the same as confessing the testimony concerning Him, His death, burial and resurrection.
And Jesus is not Lord, but He is THE Lord.
1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Even Satan will confess Jesus is Lord. See Philippians 2:8-11. This does not mean Satan is saved through this confession.
When one studies the Greek copies, there is still the problem of choosing the right words in language to understand them. Most Greek words have multiple meanings in a language. Which do you choose? It's then up to your own liking. I personally don't want to go there even if I were the top Greek scholar on the planet. Not when it comes to God's precious words. I must rely on His promise to preserve them. I do not trust in the KJV scholarship, but God's promise to preserve His holy, pure words. Why the KJV? I have not found it to be false, anywhere. All so called falsehoods can be answered soundly. Also, by looking at it's fruit. That's huge for me.
Yes. The modern versions corrupt even the most basic salvation doctrine. I was saddened after witnessing to a Catholic family member that they quoted part of Corinthians 1:18 back to me as "for us who are being saved" as compared to "but unto us which are saved." ! There are those who think such detail isn't important, yet one little word makes all the difference between knowing Christ's work is finished, or thinking that their salvation is a "work in progress" that they control.
All I was saying is that in spite of that, people can and do get saved by reading the other versions. Just like people in various other denominations ( Anglican, Orthodox, etc) can get saved in spite of certain unscriptural teachings, those who use other versions can get saved in spite of the doctrinal corruption in them. The Lord's mercy towards us is very great.
All I was saying is that in spite of that, people can and do get saved by reading the other versions. Just like people in various other denominations ( Anglican, Orthodox, etc) can get saved in spite of certain unscriptural teachings, those who use other versions can get saved in spite of the doctrinal corruption in them. The Lord's mercy towards us is very great.
You are simply afraid of individual thinking and decision making, so it seems to me. When some word can have two meanings, you are afraid to decide for youself what is the best for context and want some guys form 17th century to tell you that.
And you know what? English words can have also many meanings. Now what?!
And you know what? English words can have also many meanings. Now what?!
This is the correct Here is our History, I admit to my mistake. Yet I have no way to edit the original post & I'm looking for a way to take down this Thread. Can anyone help?
Here is our History:
Here is our History:
The Authorized Version: Translated from the Textus Receptus and finished in 1611; Through God's will a breakthrough for the Protestant Reformation, for Christian believers with beliefs protestant to the Roman Catholic Church; Later revised as the King James Version Bible.