mark of the beast

[Ahwatukee]

Hey Joseppi,

Satan, that old serpent, the Devil, knows this full well for he wasn’t spiritually thrown out of heaven, he was literally cast out and his minions also. And Satan wasn’t cast on to the earth, but rather, in the earth.

Satan and his angels being thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth as revealed in Rev.12, is a result of the 7th trumpet/3rd woe. This event is has not yet taken place and that because the first seal has not even been opened, which initiates God's wrath.

Trumpets 5, 6 and 7 are referred to as "woes" and take place in order. That said, before the 7th trumpet takes place, the 5th trumpet/1st woe must take place which is when that angel releases those demonic beings from the Abyss, who are given commanded to torment the inhabitants of the earth for five months with stings like that of a scorpion. Have we seen any of these demonic being flying around?

After that is the 6th trumpet where those four fallen angels are released from the area of the Euphrates River who gather a demonic army of 200 million and kill a third of mankind. Have we seen those demonic horses killing a third of mankind with fire, smoke and sulfur.

Therefore, since we have yet to see the literal fulfillment of these events, then neither could the 7th trumpet have taken place. Currently, Satan and His angels have access to heaven and accuse believers before God night and day. When that 7th trumpet sounds, then Satan and his angels will be cast out and restricted to the earth.

When Jesus said, "I beheld Satan fall like lightning from heaven" he was speaking of his original fall, but he still currently has access. But as I said, the big factor is the fact that we haven't seen any of the events that must take place prior to the 7th trumpet.

 

[so-jesus-e-deus]

Considering that Ha-Satan dissumulates the Jesus’ works, probably the mark of the beast is the deturpation of the Holy Scripture.
To be more exact: the mark of Jesus is His name and the name of His Father:

• “And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing upon mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand, having his name and the name of his Father written upon their foreheads.” (Rev 14.1).

That is to say, the Jesus’ mark (or seal, if you prefer) is His identity and the character of His works. Consequently, the mark of the beast is everything that have to do with him and his devil work in this world.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Considering that Ha-Satan dissumulates the Jesus’ works, probably the mark of the beast is the deturpation of the Holy Scripture.
To be more exact: the mark of Jesus is His name and the name of His Father:

• “And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing upon mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand, having his name and the name of his Father written upon their foreheads.” (Rev 14.1).

That is to say, the Jesus’ mark (or seal, if you prefer) is His identity and the character of His works. Consequently, the mark of the beast is everything that have to do with him and his devil work in this world.

Hello so-jesus-e-deus,

Regarding this, we must consult the scriptures which state that the mark will go on the hand or the forehead and unless anyone had the mark they would not be able to buy or sell. Therefore, as it states, this mark will go on the hand or the forehead and will eventually replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps in order to perform electronic crediting and debiting of ones bank accounts. Regarding this, we already have this technology were people are being implanted, which will continue to evolve leading up to the revealing of the antichirst/beast. Now is just a matter of time before we begin to see people making purchases by having their hands scanned.

 

[MatthewG]

The mark of the beast, had to do with pledging allegiance with what the Roman empire was doing. There was a man, who rose to power named Nero Caesar. When He was ruling, He hated Christians, and he killed them, even lit them along poles, to light the way to his parties, He would put dog skins on them, and place them in the arena, and watch them be ripped apart.

At the end of Nero's life, He ended up killing himself.

Nero Caesar, had anyone who didn't obey him, killed on site. It was instated that He was to be worshiped, day and night, and to be able to eat, you have had to have the mark of the beast, who is Nero.

If you had this mark it meant that you swore allegiance to worshiping Nero, and you were able to buy/sell/trade.

They would be tormented by all the things they saw, everyone around, and would worship Nero statues, and Ideologies.

... The Great tribulation was in play, the Churches were all under heavy persecution, and the Revelation was written to the 7 churches in Asia minor around at that time warning about all of these things that were going to play out, up to the point that.

When Jesus Christ talked about the temple would fall, in Matthew 24 it was, it was destroyed in 70 Ad.

All of the Pharisee's they did from keeping genealogy, priest hoods, temples, sacrifices, law keeping, in the Old Covenant was destroyed.

Now we live in the New Covenant, under the Lord Jesus Christ and His Rule. Where God has everything in control, and in the Lord Jesus Christ we have the freedom to grow in knowledge, and Love God, and Love Others, living and walking by the spirit.

 

[Ahwatukee]

The mark of the beast, had to do with pledging allegiance with what the Roman empire was doing. There was a man, who rose to power named Nero Caesar. When He was ruling, He hated Christians, and he killed them, even lit them along poles, to light the way to his parties, He would put dog skins on them, and place them in the arena, and watch them be ripped apart.

At the end of Nero's life, He ended up killing himself.

Nero Caesar, had anyone who didn't obey him, killed on site. It was instated that He was to be worshiped, day and night, and to be able to eat, you have had to have the mark of the beast, who is Nero.

If you had this mark it meant that you swore allegiance to worshiping Nero, and you were able to buy/sell/trade.

They would be tormented by all the things they saw, everyone around, and would worship Nero statues, and Ideologies.

... The Great tribulation was in play, the Churches were all under heavy persecution, and the Revelation was written to the 7 churches in Asia minor around at that time warning about all of these things that were going to play out, up to the point that.

When Jesus Christ talked about the temple would fall, in Matthew 24 it was, it was destroyed in 70 Ad.

All of the Pharisee's they did from keeping genealogy, priest hoods, temples, sacrifices, law keeping, in the Old Covenant was destroyed.

Now we live in the New Covenant, under the Lord Jesus Christ and His Rule. Where God has everything in control, and in the Lord Jesus Christ we have the freedom to grow in knowledge, and Love God, and Love Others, living and walking by the spirit.

Well then, it must be one heck of a coincidence that we currently have technology were people are now being implanted with RFID chips under the skin of the hand and that for the purpose of making purchases. This is a future event which will coincide with the revealing of the antichrist. That is why we have this current electronic crediting and debiting system set up, because the mark will eventually replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps and all other methods of buying and selling. That's where we're headed. Soon you will begin to see people making purchases by having their hands scanned.

It's not a spiritual thing, but a literal physical device that will go in/on the hand or the forehead and it will be used to credit and debit a person's bank account. The reason why it will work, is because all other methods of buying and selling will become obsolete leaving only that mark/device. This is exactly why cash and checks are being phased out and electronic crediting and debiting is taking its place. Eventually, only the mark will be valid for crediting and debiting.

 

[MatthewG]

Well then, it must be one heck of a coincidence that we currently have technology were people are now being implanted with RFID chips under the skin of the hand and that for the purpose of making purchases. This is a future event which will coincide with the revealing of the antichrist. That is why we have this current electronic crediting and debiting system set up, because the mark will eventually replace card swiping and cell phone bank apps and all other methods of buying and selling. That's where we're headed. Soon you will begin to see people making purchases by having their hands scanned.

It's not a spiritual thing, but a literal physical device that will go in/on the hand or the forehead and it will be used to credit and debit a person's bank account. The reason why it will work, is because all other methods of buying and selling will become obsolete leaving only that mark/device. This is exactly why cash and checks are being phased out and electronic crediting and debiting is taking its place. Eventually, only the mark will be valid for crediting and debiting.

Yeah I agree people think this way, but I don't believe anyone will be forced to take these, and if they take them, and the believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and we have such freedom in everything He has done for everyone. They could still pray and Thank God, and the Lord Jesus Christ for one more day couldn't they?

Or would this little RFID thing make you uncontrollable of your own self?


Now what Nero did, since there wasn't america around. Nero was ruling and wanted to take over Jerusalem, and killed Christians, and He as a ruler forced people to worship Him, or they were killed.

He was known as the beast, and anti-christ.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Yeah I agree people think this way, but I don't believe anyone will be forced to take these, and if they take them, and the believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and we have such freedom in everything He has done for everyone. They could still pray and Thank God, and the Lord Jesus Christ for one more day couldn't they?

No one will be forced to take the mark. Because the other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, it will force people to either receive it in order to continue to be able to buy and sell. Those who know what the mark represents will reject it and many will die because of that.

They could still pray and Thank God, and the Lord Jesus Christ for one more day couldn't they?

Below is God's answer to your question:

A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.”

Once a person receives his mark or worships him or his image, their fate is sealed.

 

[MatthewG]

No one will be forced to take the mark. Because the other methods of buying and selling will be made obsolete, it will force people to either receive it in order to continue to be able to buy and sell. Those who know what the mark represents will reject it and many will die because of that.

A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name


Yeah trying to look at it as if it will happen again in the future, and leave in a lot of questions of what this mark could be...

This line you showed here, If anyone worships the beast (Nero), and it's image (statues), and receives it's mark, on their forehead (Following Nero's ideologies) or on their (hand worshiping the statues of Nero) (representing allegiance to Nero).

(this next line is in the future) They too will drink the wine of God's Fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the Holy Angels and of the Lamb, and the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. ( I can't really explain this in much detail at the moment but it seems like john is talking about a future time )

There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast (Nero), or His image (statues) on the earth, or for any person who pledges allegiance to Nero and receives the Mark. ( and this seems like John comes back to what is going on around presently during His time on Earth, about what was going on in the revelation he wrote to the 7 churches.)


In the bible it does talk about someone proclaiming themselves to be God, Nero was kind of like this He was known as the Beast, and the Anti-Christ, because He had statues made of Himself to be worshiped, if you did not worship Him, you died, and if you didn't pledge allegiance to Nero you did not trade, buy, or sell.

If you were a Christian you were starved, beaten, hung, and killed without mercy.

Talk about a great tribulation to live in! Going on back in the earth when it was still somewhat of a child, before it grew up into the big earth it is now.

Thanks for the nice chat for now friend Ahwatukee

 

[Alertandawake]

You know what is actually scary concerning this, some of the research I have done, I have discovered there has been the occasional pastor that has actually said it was ok to accept it, and that a person can still be forgiven if they accept it. This is very alarming to even think that the pastors concerned will even say such a thing.

And how many people will end up accepting this mark because their pastor told them to?

In my opinion, the mark of the beast (whatever it is), will be the moment when mankind will have to make the final choice. The world is reaching a point where there can be no more shades of grey, only black and white. The question that remains, do people choose Life or Death?

 

[Ahwatukee]

You know what is actually scary concerning this, some of the research I have done, I have discovered there has been the occasional pastor that has actually said it was ok to accept it, and that a person can still be forgiven if they accept it. This is very alarming to even think that the pastors concerned will even say such a thing.

And how many people will end up accepting this mark because their pastor told them to?

In my opinion, the mark of the beast (whatever it is), will be the moment when mankind will have to make the final choice. The world is reaching a point where there can be no more shades of grey, only black and white. The question that remains, do people choose Life or Death?

Exactly! I totally agree with you. I often refer to the mark of the beast, as that proverbial line being drawn in the sand, where it will force people to make a decision to receive it or reject it.

That pastor and any pastor who condones the accepting of that mark and states that the person can be forgiven, is just not believing what the scripture has to say and would just be leading people to condemning judgment. The receiving of the mark will be the ultimate rejection of God by a person aligning themselves with Satan.This again would allow people to worship the beast by receiving his mark, and then just confess after wards.

I'm sure that when the mark becomes the only valid method of buying and selling, that there will be many who will reason with themselves saying "God knows that I need to feed my family and that I need to pay my bills, etc." But that should be the ultimate time of resistance by keeping the testimony of Jesus and the word of God. If receiving the mark could be forgiven after wards, then the great tribulation saints could just receive it and not suffer as they will during that last 3 1/2 years.

What it will come down to is, "whoever loves their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Christ's sake will find it, eternal life."



I was actually flipping through stations years ago and caught a pastor saying "I have decided that we will no longer be concerned about the book of Revelation, because it puts too much of the fear of God into the congregation." I couldn't believe that he actually said that.

 

[MatthewG]

Nero had slaughtered many Christians...

So I don't believe that there will be this new universal mark, for the world to take, and then the Lord Jesus Christ come back and destory this world...


I actually believe that there will be no end to this world, because there just will be no end to it, but people believe in all ways. Just like I believe the end-times are over and done with...


Believe as you wish.

 

[Alertandawake]

That pastor and any pastor who condones the accepting of that mark and states that the person can be forgiven, is just not believing what the scripture has to say and would just be leading people to condemning judgment.

That, and most likely the pastors that do believe and teach that ideology are probably illiterate as well.

The warning is quite clear in Rev 14:9-11. The warning is direct and to the point. How pastors are not understanding that is beyond me.

The receiving of the mark will be the ultimate rejection of God by a person aligning themselves with Satan.This again would allow people to worship the beast by receiving his mark, and then just confess after wards.

Yes, this is what it is. It is in my opinion based on research and evidence that we are seeing today, people are ready to officially accept the mark of the beast. It is just a matter of time.

I'm sure that when the mark becomes the only valid method of buying and selling, that there will be many who will reason with themselves saying "God knows that I need to feed my family and that I need to pay my bills, etc."

AH yes, I know this line of thinking. And I got no doubt in my mind this is what many parents are going to be faced with. And I can truly see how bad it is going to be for such parents who have children and are going to be faced with this situation. I can see this will literally be tearing families apart.

What it will come down to is, "whoever loves their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Christ's sake will find it, eternal life."

Yes that is it. We are truly going to be facing difficult times. We already seeing families being torn apart with this gender choosing garbage, how much worse will it be when the mark of the beast becomes official?

I was actually flipping through stations years ago and caught a pastor saying "I have decided that we will no longer be concerned about the book of Revelation, because it puts too much of the fear of God into the congregation." I couldn't believe that he actually said that.

I can. Sadly it is the mentality of what we are seeing of this brainwashed doped up generation of zombies. I know it sounds harsh, but it is the only way I can word it to make a point. In my opinion, discussing this topic will scare the people from attending church, naturally that means less money the concerned church makes. It's all about money.

I recall years and years ago, whenever I went to church. Never once have I ever come across a church that teaches end times matters, and in this day and age, with what we are seeing today, you would expect many pastors to be teaching this. But no, they won't.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Nero had slaughtered many Christians...

So I don't believe that there will be this new universal mark, for the world to take, and then the Lord Jesus Christ come back and destory this world...

MatthewG, this is not about the past, but about the future. Your argument is moot, because we already have the technology where people are being implanted with RFID chips under the sking of the hand.

The mark of the beast is going to be a device that is going to allow the inhabitants of the earth to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts, which is buying and selling. This is exactly why the world has continued and will continue to move towards a cashless society. The scripture states that "He (false prophet) will cause all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead. And except anyone had the mark they would not be able to buy or sell." That "great and small, rich and poor, free and slave" means the entire world. This would not have been possible during Nero's time or any other time in history until now when this technology exists. The increase in technology is exactly what is meant in Daniel 12 which says "In the last days knowledge shall be increased."

The fact is that, exactly what scripture describes would happen regarding this mark, is taking place. We are seeing the technology already taking place which will continue to evolve leading up to that revealing of that antichrist and therefore, your argument is moot.

Soon, instead of people swiping cards or cell phone bank apps, we are going to start seeing people paying for things by having their hands scanned.

I actually believe that there will be no end to this world, because there just will be no end to it, but people believe in all ways. Just like I believe the end-times are over and done with...

Someone has really done a number on your head if you think that end-times are over with. People may believe in all kinds of ways, but there is only one way to believe and that is what God's word has to say about any given subject. Because of your spiritual blindness, you have no idea of what is still to come. In order for end-time events to have already taken place, which is the lie of preterism, the world would have had to have seen all of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments taken place, which will be the worst time in the history of the world and we certainly haven't seen those events.

If you're like the typical preterist, even after seeing the events taking place in the literal sense, for the sake of your belief, you will ignore them and continue to cling to those beliefs. Very unfortunate in deed.

 

[MatthewG]

Does God still love me regardless of how unfortunate of a state that I am in?
And not believing you?

Can you figure this scripture out for me seeings how you know much more of the bible than I do?

Revelation 13:18

Here is the wisdom! He who is having the understanding, let him count the number of the beast, for the number of a man it is, and its number is six hundred and sixty six.

Who is the number of this man?

Do you believe that the people at the 7 churches that John written to would have find out the number of the man who's name related to 666?

If you say Yes, that man would have been Nero.

If you say No, or that well there have been many names relating through Nero - up till today 2000 years later, and the anti-christ and beast are still yet to come, when all of these things were suppose to happen with-in a generation, not a future generation, that is just how it has been viewed for the past 2000 years, when really it's all over, and it was all going to happen soon, and quickly according to the Revelation Chapter 1.


I don't believe the mark is taking a chip, that is pretty light. It's like your gonna give me some cupcakes, for lunch or something.


Lets see someone come in demanding you do really do something, like worship Him, and pledge alliegances to them,

or you die...


I believe that mark was pledging allegeiance in everything that He was about and worshiping Him, almost just like God, and Nero was someone who was exactly like that who ruled over, people and deemed them to worship Him, and his statues day and night, and to follow his orders, in order to eat, trade, buy, and sell, they would pledge allegiance taking heed to his thinking, and using their hands in worship and praise towards Nero.

Christians would be beaten, starved, killed... and it was a slaughter fest .

If you do not know nothing about it go find out and read and look for yourself, or don't and believe the way you are always going to be, which you have the right to, but there is truly opposing views.

I love you my friend, it just you look towards one view, and I one more. I do challenge but not trying to be dogmatic about it you know in friendly banter.


For the cause of Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior, Amen.

 

[Alertandawake]

With all the current advancements in technology, all the evidence at this stage does point to some kind of foreign object of some kind (a sophisticated device of some kind) that permanently bonds with a human host. I tried to avoid speculation, but all the research I have done, all the studies, everything points to a technological sophisticated device of some kind.

Reading the warnings over and over, looking at other verses concerned, the only logical and sound conclusion that makes sense is that once a person accepts the mark of the beast, this thing, whatever it is will be permanently part of the person. It is as if the person who has accepted the mark of the beast will be permanently hardwired that such a person will be incapable of ever repenting.

Not long ago I have come across nanotechnology that is going to be used to treat cancer/tumors. If such is the case, then one must ask if such a technology could be used to reprogram a person's brain? Imagine a scenario where a person is injected with nanobots, and such nanobots get to work by reprogramming the mind? Programmed what to say? Programmed how to think? Programmed what to believe? Elimination of free will. Get rid of free will, you have the perfect society of robots.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Does God still love me regardless of how unfortunate of a state that I am in?
And not believing you?

It's not believing in me, but believing in God's word. Unfortunately, you have been introduced to one of the most deceptive false teachings out there. It forces you to ignore the literal meaning of scripture and replace it with an allegorical interpretation which distorts the meaning that God meant to convey. For example, you say that all end-time events have already taken place, and in order to do that, you have to ignore what is written regarding the literal events of wrath that is in the word of God. It forces you to down play and dilute the events of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments.

To answer your question, I would just refer you to what God has to say about anyone who adds to or takes away from the events contained within the book of Revelation:

"I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll."

By believing and teaching that the events of Revelation have already taken place, you have either adding to or taking away from the prophecy of this book. Remember this, during Paul's time, Hymenaeus and Philetus were teaching that the resurrection had already taken place, and he said that it was godless chatter, that it would spread like gangrene and that they had wandered away from the truth and that by their teaching they were destroying the faith of some. By your believing that all end time events have taken place, including the resurrection, that puts you in the same boat as those two men.

Do you believe that the people at the 7 churches that John written to would have find out the number of the man who's name related to 666?

I'll answer that question with this question: When Isaiah said to king Ahaz "the Lord himself will give you a sign, a virgin will conceive and bring forth a son and his name will be called Immanuel," which means God with us. That said, Isaiah's prophecy didn't take place until approx.700 years later. Therefore, even though it was told to king Ahaz, he was not around to see the fulfillment of that prophecy. Obviously, it is the same for the original churches of that time in that, the majority of the prophesies in Revelation is for that last generation leading up to Christ's return to the earth to end the age and not a make believe return.

If you say No, or that well there have been many names relating through Nero - up till today 2000 years later, and the anti-christ and beast are still yet to come, when all of these things were suppose to happen with-in a generation, not a future generation, that is just how it has been viewed for the past 2000 years, when really it's all over, and it was all going to happen soon, and quickly according to the Revelation Chapter 1.

Once again, your argument is moot and that because you have no fulfillment of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, which would have to have taken place during Nero's time in order for him to be that antichrist. The only way that you can do it is by spiritualizing those events of wrath so that they have no literal fulfillment.

I don't believe the mark is taking a chip, that is pretty light. It's like your gonna give me some cupcakes, for lunch or something.

I have been watching the evolution of this technology from the very beginning and anticipated each phase of beginning with the first ATM's, the universal product system (upc) and the point of sale system (POS). And now, different countries, including the US, are offering chip implants under the skin of the hand, with one of the purposes being to make purchases. So please don't tell me about what I have been following for that last 40 years.

It's simple to understand, during the time of the antichrist, all crediting and debiting will be done via that mark. Anyone without the mark will not be able to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts. This will separate the saints from the rest of the unbelieving world.

If you do not know nothing about it go find out and read and look for yourself, or don't and believe the way you are always going to be, which you have the right to, but there is truly opposing views.

As I continue to make known to you, I have been reading for myself. It's called the word of God. And I have been reading and studying it now for over 40 years. It is your reading the teachings of men and using that as your basis for the word of God that is your problem. Their teachings become God's teachings. So, no thanks! The word of God is the source of all truth, not teachings of men.

I love you my friend, it just you look towards one view, and I one more. I do challenge but not trying to be dogmatic about it you know in friendly banter.

There is only one view and only one way that end-time events are going to be fulfilled and what you are believing is not it.

Just keep watching and you will begin to see people begin to make purchases with the scan of their hands. If you continue to convince yourself that this is not the technology for the mark of the beast, then you are just blind to what is happening. I'm just wondering what it will take to get you to open your eyes to realize that end-time events are for end-times, not the past. These end-time events will take place leading all the way up to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age.

 

[Ahwatukee]

With all the current advancements in technology, all the evidence at this stage does point to some kind of foreign object of some kind (a sophisticated device of some kind) that permanently bonds with a human host. I tried to avoid speculation, but all the research I have done, all the studies, everything points to a technological sophisticated device of some kind.

Reading the warnings over and over, looking at other verses concerned, the only logical and sound conclusion that makes sense is that once a person accepts the mark of the beast, this thing, whatever it is will be permanently part of the person. It is as if the person who has accepted the mark of the beast will be permanently hardwired that such a person will be incapable of ever repenting.

Not long ago I have come across nanotechnology that is going to be used to treat cancer/tumors. If such is the case, then one must ask if such a technology could be used to reprogram a person's brain? Imagine a scenario where a person is injected with nanobots, and such nanobots get to work by reprogramming the mind? Programmed what to say? Programmed how to think? Programmed what to believe? Elimination of free will. Get rid of free will, you have the perfect society of robots.

We already have the technology being used with the use of RFID chips being implanted under the skin of the hand. That device will continue to evolve as we continue to move toward that last seven years. Whatever that device becomes, one thing will remain consistent, which is that it will go in/on the skin of the hand or forehead.

 

[tanakh]

In Revelation 14.1 we re told that 144000 will have the name of Jesus and his Father on their foreheads. No one thinks that Jesus will use a tattoo or a Computer chip to do it. At least I don't think anyone does but it wouldn't surprise me if someone on CC did.

Revelation consists of Symbols and allusions to OT passages. At the very start it says that it was signified to John. Here is one passage worth considering:

Hear O Israel The Lord our God the Lord is one. Love the Lord with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Deut 6:4-9

Its about being obedient to God the truth is to be seen spiritually. You either obey God or Satan. This is the central message
God knows who are his without the need to check out who has some microchip implanted.

 

[Ahwatukee]

In Revelation 14.1 we re told that 144000 will have the name of Jesus and his Father on their foreheads. No one thinks that Jesus will use a tattoo or a Computer chip to do it. At least I don't think anyone does but it wouldn't surprise me if someone on CC did.

Revelation consists of Symbols and allusions to OT passages. At the very start it says that it was signified to John. Here is one passage worth considering:

Hear O Israel The Lord our God the Lord is one. Love the Lord with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Deut 6:4-9

Its about being obedient to God the truth is to be seen spiritually. You either obey God or Satan. This is the central message
God knows who are his without the need to check out who has some microchip implanted.

Greetings Tanakh,

Very true, but regardless, we have scripture that is very specific that this mark will go in/on the right hand or forehead. The fact that we already have chips being implanted under the skin of the hand attests to the truth and accuracy of God's word. It is amazing to me at the number of people who reject this, even though this is exactly what scripture states and is exactly how it is happening.

Yeah, those were called phylacteries, which were little prayer boxes on their wrists. In order to control the entire world economy so that in order to perform any kind of electronic crediting or debiting to ones bank account, eventually card swiping and cell phone bank apps will be replaced by that coming mark, which is already in its infancy and which will continue to evolve leading up to the revealing of the antichrist.

 

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The forehead is where our conscious thoughts reside.
The right hand is where our works are manifested.