Does the Bible claim to be inerrant?
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Also, consider the fact that most of people were not native Greeks, so most of people, while copying Greek manuscripts, where doing it in a language that was not their own.
Imagine ME hand copying some long English text (having hundreds of pages).
Naturaly, much more errors would be produced, without any evil intention - "our" intead of "out", "me" instead of "my", "to" instead of "too" etc would be quite frequent "gnostic perversions" made by me.
Imagine ME hand copying some long English text (having hundreds of pages).
Naturaly, much more errors would be produced, without any evil intention - "our" intead of "out", "me" instead of "my", "to" instead of "too" etc would be quite frequent "gnostic perversions" made by me.
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Why stop there? Imagine if you didn't like what was written and decided to insert your own words and change this and that. Consider the fact that the error would only multiply and multiply with time. This is exactly the same argument the Bible rejecting world makes. I am thankful that God is control of His word and not man!
And that therein the problem lies.
It was an issue between Peter and Paul.
If memory serves me God had to correct Peter.
Acts 11:4-17
4 But Peter explained it to them in order from the beginning, saying:
5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object descending like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came to me.
6 When I observed it intently and considered, I saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air.
7 And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise, Peter; kill and eat.’
8 But I said, ‘Not so, Lord! For nothing common or unclean has at any time entered my mouth.’
9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’
10 Now this was done three times, and all were drawn up again into heaven.
11 At that very moment, three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea.
12 Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man's house.
13 And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter,
14 who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning.
16 Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’
17 If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?”
To me the standard is to be always willing to allow the Holy Spirit to lead us and work in us and correcting us.
Where and when I'm in error please show me. That's my prayer, that's my standard.
It was an issue between Peter and Paul.
If memory serves me God had to correct Peter.
Acts 11:4-17
4 But Peter explained it to them in order from the beginning, saying:
5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying; and in a trance I saw a vision, an object descending like a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came to me.
6 When I observed it intently and considered, I saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air.
7 And I heard a voice saying to me, ‘Rise, Peter; kill and eat.’
8 But I said, ‘Not so, Lord! For nothing common or unclean has at any time entered my mouth.’
9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’
10 Now this was done three times, and all were drawn up again into heaven.
11 At that very moment, three men stood before the house where I was, having been sent to me from Caesarea.
12 Then the Spirit told me to go with them, doubting nothing. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered the man's house.
13 And he told us how he had seen an angel standing in his house, who said to him, ‘Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon whose surname is Peter,
14 who will tell you words by which you and all your household will be saved.’
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning.
16 Then I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, ‘John indeed baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’
17 If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?”
To me the standard is to be always willing to allow the Holy Spirit to lead us and work in us and correcting us.
Where and when I'm in error please show me. That's my prayer, that's my standard.
And we know about such insertions. When we compare 4th century manuscripts and 14th century manuscripts, insertions appear.
I am thankful that God gave us early manuscripts (and plenty of them from various areas) to eliminate these additions or removals as much as needed.
But even if we would have just some late 15th century manuscripts, full of various scribal erros and insertions, no basic doctrine would be in danger. You could be a wonderful Christian with such manuscript, without any problem.
I am thankful that God gave us early manuscripts (and plenty of them from various areas) to eliminate these additions or removals as much as needed.
But even if we would have just some late 15th century manuscripts, full of various scribal erros and insertions, no basic doctrine would be in danger. You could be a wonderful Christian with such manuscript, without any problem.
And the scholars with their perfect knowledge no exactly what was added or taken away? I wouldn't put an ounce of faith into textual criticism or it practitioners. The real fact of the matter is that you cannot prove your argument based on anything that Jesus, Paul or any authoritative figure in the Bible said so you rely on men and scholars.
"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" (1 Corinthians 1:20)
"Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" (1 Corinthians 1:20)
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are fulfilled (or accomplished) among us,
The Greek word used is πεπληροφορημένον (accomplished, fulfilled, or completed) not πἐρίστευένων (believed).
While many accounts were published, few were accurate and undistorted.
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and servants of the Word;
servants (ὑπηρέται ) literally under-rowers.) Ones under the command of another.
the Word a reference to the LORD.
These could be the apostles or any other of His regular followers such as the seventy of Luke chapter 10.
3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
3 It seemed good to me also, having accurately followed after all things from above, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
having NOT having had This is the perfect active participle NOT the pluperfect!
diligently (or accurately) NOT perfect this is the adverb ἀκριβῶς NOT the adjective τέλειον.
pursued (or followed) NOT understanding this is the verb παρηκολυθηκότι NOT the noun συνέσει.
all things NOT of all things this is the dative NOT the genitive case.
above NOT the very first this is ἄνωθεν not ἀρχῆ.
The accuracy of most of this translation demonstrates that the translators had better scholarship than one would deduce from their rendering of this verse. I believe that this is an example of allowing one’s theology to drive translation. One should rather translate the text as strictly as possible; and allow the unaltered text to drive one’s theology.
Theophilus Friend of God. There is some scholarly disagreement whether the name is intended to apply to all believers, or to an individual. In my opinion the title ‘most excellent’ suggests an individual; but, the content is certainly applicable to and pertinent to all believers.
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are fulfilled (or accomplished) among us,
The Greek word used is πεπληροφορημένον (accomplished, fulfilled, or completed) not πἐρίστευένων (believed).
While many accounts were published, few were accurate and undistorted.
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and servants of the Word;
servants (ὑπηρέται ) literally under-rowers.) Ones under the command of another.
the Word a reference to the LORD.
These could be the apostles or any other of His regular followers such as the seventy of Luke chapter 10.
3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
3 It seemed good to me also, having accurately followed after all things from above, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
having NOT having had This is the perfect active participle NOT the pluperfect!
diligently (or accurately) NOT perfect this is the adverb ἀκριβῶς NOT the adjective τέλειον.
pursued (or followed) NOT understanding this is the verb παρηκολυθηκότι NOT the noun συνέσει.
all things NOT of all things this is the dative NOT the genitive case.
above NOT the very first this is ἄνωθεν not ἀρχῆ.
The accuracy of most of this translation demonstrates that the translators had better scholarship than one would deduce from their rendering of this verse. I believe that this is an example of allowing one’s theology to drive translation. One should rather translate the text as strictly as possible; and allow the unaltered text to drive one’s theology.
Theophilus Friend of God. There is some scholarly disagreement whether the name is intended to apply to all believers, or to an individual. In my opinion the title ‘most excellent’ suggests an individual; but, the content is certainly applicable to and pertinent to all believers.
We have never seen the original gospel religious study 101 shows that the Messiah the Christ the Son of Mary message was first delivered from His blessed mouth to the noble ears of His companions in Aramaic and first translated into Hebrew, I never heard of a written scripture attributed to him in Aramaic except for a very verses in the present day bibles //
I have said manytimes that my view is that only God is perfect.
Nothing where some creation is involved is perfect. So, to me, not even the original Scriptures.
And again, I must stress that I am talking about some theoretical textual, grammatical, material, physical perfection.
I do believe that Scriptures were and are and will be perfectly preserved in all important doctrines for all who search for them.
Nothing where some creation is involved is perfect. So, to me, not even the original Scriptures.
And again, I must stress that I am talking about some theoretical textual, grammatical, material, physical perfection.
I do believe that Scriptures were and are and will be perfectly preserved in all important doctrines for all who search for them.
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