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Okay, so I'm going to break my tradition of not teaching on here. This IS a teaching!
That said, the purpose is different than most teachings on this forum. In the end, the goal is not for you to agree with me. I don't care if you do or don't. The goal is to make it easier for people to use words right, so we're all on the same page when we use these words.
The word is "Salvation." People use this word in a very tiny way or they overuse this word in too big a way. There is order to salvation. What order? Well, that's for you to decide, until the Lord teaches you enough that you may or may not change that.
Sanctification is not salvation, yet everyone believes in sanctification because it is a part of salvation, no matter which order you agree with. Repentance is not salvation, yet almost everyone believes in it as a part of salvation.
What I am asking is for people to understand that salvation is a process. Some of it takes a long time, and some of it feels like an instant. But there is order to it, and whether we work, accept God's grace, or do both does not affect salvation. It affects a portion of salvation that is called "sanctification." (Granted, if you don't work or you do not trust the Lord for his grace, you're back to seriously considering if you are saved yet, but that doesn't affect sanctification or salvation. That just shows if you are saved yet.)
Someone is asking what happens after salvation. There is no after salvation. We are either saved or not saved, but it never ends.
So, what am I trying to say? Learn the choices for the Order of Salvation, so you understand what you believe. That way we don't have to keep arguing over stuff simply because we don't know the right words.
Here is the link to Wiki's "Different Schemes" for The Order of Salvation. (Good news. It's accurate, even if it's not divine writing.)
Feel free to pick which one you agree with. But do get the idea what salvation means from the order of it, so we don't keep arguing over stuff we'd actually agree with, if we just understood the words being used.
(And then we can argue over which order is right. lol)
That said, the purpose is different than most teachings on this forum. In the end, the goal is not for you to agree with me. I don't care if you do or don't. The goal is to make it easier for people to use words right, so we're all on the same page when we use these words.
The word is "Salvation." People use this word in a very tiny way or they overuse this word in too big a way. There is order to salvation. What order? Well, that's for you to decide, until the Lord teaches you enough that you may or may not change that.
Sanctification is not salvation, yet everyone believes in sanctification because it is a part of salvation, no matter which order you agree with. Repentance is not salvation, yet almost everyone believes in it as a part of salvation.
What I am asking is for people to understand that salvation is a process. Some of it takes a long time, and some of it feels like an instant. But there is order to it, and whether we work, accept God's grace, or do both does not affect salvation. It affects a portion of salvation that is called "sanctification." (Granted, if you don't work or you do not trust the Lord for his grace, you're back to seriously considering if you are saved yet, but that doesn't affect sanctification or salvation. That just shows if you are saved yet.)
Someone is asking what happens after salvation. There is no after salvation. We are either saved or not saved, but it never ends.
So, what am I trying to say? Learn the choices for the Order of Salvation, so you understand what you believe. That way we don't have to keep arguing over stuff simply because we don't know the right words.
Here is the link to Wiki's "Different Schemes" for The Order of Salvation. (Good news. It's accurate, even if it's not divine writing.)
Feel free to pick which one you agree with. But do get the idea what salvation means from the order of it, so we don't keep arguing over stuff we'd actually agree with, if we just understood the words being used.
(And then we can argue over which order is right. lol)