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It HAS to work that way or we are all doomed. No man can never ever have anger in his heart. He can't change his own heart. He HAS to have faith that God will give him a new heart and will renew his mind and change his thinking. So if a man is a murderer, having anger in his heart at others, who can be saved if a man must stop sinning first? The only thing he can do is agree with God that he is a murderer. He has changed his mind on the matter and he truthfully says, Lord have mercy on me, a sinner, a murderer. Before God changed his mind and renewed his mind on the matter, he thought he had always kept the command to not murder. Now he sees and he is honest and upright in his heart.
To be upright is not to stop sinning. It is to admit the truth. God takes it from there. The first step is admitting the truth. God sees to the work of making a man to actually stop his murdering. The man can't do it. Faith is trusting Him to do what He has said He will and make the man what He has said He will. You could try your whole lifetime to never murder and you would fail at some point. The child of your own working has to be sent away to make room for the child God has promised.
To be upright is not to stop sinning. It is to admit the truth. God takes it from there. The first step is admitting the truth. God sees to the work of making a man to actually stop his murdering. The man can't do it. Faith is trusting Him to do what He has said He will and make the man what He has said He will. You could try your whole lifetime to never murder and you would fail at some point. The child of your own working has to be sent away to make room for the child God has promised.
Hi Stunned,
I was addressing not motives, but that everything people do is unacceptable to
God and rejected.
The clue is in me talking about Cornelius was listened to by God.
It is really this simple, God is aware of everything that is going on.
In the black and white world, only those filled with the Holy Spirit matter.
And in this imaginary world, these are Free Gracers and no one else.
Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus.
I was addressing not motives, but that everything people do is unacceptable to
God and rejected.
The clue is in me talking about Cornelius was listened to by God.
It is really this simple, God is aware of everything that is going on.
In the black and white world, only those filled with the Holy Spirit matter.
And in this imaginary world, these are Free Gracers and no one else.
Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus.
To worry is not to trust, is this true? I believe it is. If you are placing your trust into your own keeping, then you will have reason to worry. There's not one thing we can add to the work of salvation that Jesus finished for mankind. Just believe He is truth and no lie.
What we do? Walk in this truth as who and what we are, what He has made us. A new creation man, one body living and moving together as one in Him on earth. Looking to Him, the head, and not around us on one another, nor downcast, earthly minded. Heavenly minded for our goals are birthed from above, not beneath.
The commands are daily given, for its always today in eternity. Out of our being,our belly, flowing.rivers, living waters.
Called resting in Him, that we might rise in His work of power.
What we do? Walk in this truth as who and what we are, what He has made us. A new creation man, one body living and moving together as one in Him on earth. Looking to Him, the head, and not around us on one another, nor downcast, earthly minded. Heavenly minded for our goals are birthed from above, not beneath.
The commands are daily given, for its always today in eternity. Out of our being,our belly, flowing.rivers, living waters.
Called resting in Him, that we might rise in His work of power.
Hi Stunned,
Anger. You have an issue with anger, as if anger is a sin.
Murder is the sin, which leads from anger and rage.
Jesus's warning was against anger against ones brother in Christ.
To extend this to anger in general is a big mistake.
If you go to war, there is good reason to be angry and to kill. It is probably
impossible to kill without anger unless one has something seriously wrong in
ones head.
So unless you have the understanding Jesus can bring true purity and cleansing to
the heart of a believer, all the theology that flows will be distorted and wrong.
Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus, amen.
Anger. You have an issue with anger, as if anger is a sin.
Murder is the sin, which leads from anger and rage.
Jesus's warning was against anger against ones brother in Christ.
To extend this to anger in general is a big mistake.
If you go to war, there is good reason to be angry and to kill. It is probably
impossible to kill without anger unless one has something seriously wrong in
ones head.
So unless you have the understanding Jesus can bring true purity and cleansing to
the heart of a believer, all the theology that flows will be distorted and wrong.
Grace and peace to you in Christ Jesus, amen.
Hi Stunned,
God listened to Cornelius, neither a Jew nor a Christian.
I was not saying why, just He listened.
The heresy that is being pushed is God does not know sinners, see sin,
desire people to walk in purity and holiness as His children.
So fake believers who are just hidden below Jesus are Gods holy people
as shame mockery of the work of the cross and the Holy Spirit dwelling in
Holy Temples of the people of God.
We are so used to running ourselves and everything down, claiming nothing
is worthy or cleansed or purified, the only thing anyone can say is woe is me,
a sinner doomed to hell, but because of this religious duty or belief I am ok.
This has always been fake faith, and fake reality. Love grows and never stops
growing in the heart of the believer and makes a true child of the living God,
redeeming all they are to His glory. Amen.
God listened to Cornelius, neither a Jew nor a Christian.
I was not saying why, just He listened.
The heresy that is being pushed is God does not know sinners, see sin,
desire people to walk in purity and holiness as His children.
So fake believers who are just hidden below Jesus are Gods holy people
as shame mockery of the work of the cross and the Holy Spirit dwelling in
Holy Temples of the people of God.
We are so used to running ourselves and everything down, claiming nothing
is worthy or cleansed or purified, the only thing anyone can say is woe is me,
a sinner doomed to hell, but because of this religious duty or belief I am ok.
This has always been fake faith, and fake reality. Love grows and never stops
growing in the heart of the believer and makes a true child of the living God,
redeeming all they are to His glory. Amen.
What is taking you so long to type the answer? Again you mock. We who believe that faith and works work hand and glove to get us ready for living with God and Jesus for eternity are not self righteous, we are not sinless perfectionists, and it is not a feeble attempt to make the gates of heaven.
We obviously know that we need to have faith in Jesus and his grace. We also know that he has instructed us to do things out of love for him and to help his children to progress through this life, as this life brings lots of challenges to the children of God.
He wants us to help him ease the strain of the lives of his children. So we help the poor and the needy. We are peacemakers, we forgive so that we can be forgiven, we take care of our own personal temples. We know this aspect of the gospel is important too, since the bible tells us over and over again that it is.
So we believe and have faith and are saved, but now we go forth as a new person and do the will of our Father and His Son Jesus Christ. Is that a self righteous embellishment that is good for nothing?
We obviously know that we need to have faith in Jesus and his grace. We also know that he has instructed us to do things out of love for him and to help his children to progress through this life, as this life brings lots of challenges to the children of God.
He wants us to help him ease the strain of the lives of his children. So we help the poor and the needy. We are peacemakers, we forgive so that we can be forgiven, we take care of our own personal temples. We know this aspect of the gospel is important too, since the bible tells us over and over again that it is.
So we believe and have faith and are saved, but now we go forth as a new person and do the will of our Father and His Son Jesus Christ. Is that a self righteous embellishment that is good for nothing?
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca, 'is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Matt 5:22
Anger is for war, aggression, violence.
Annoyance is about irritation and identifying a problem.
The phrase "his brother", restricts murder with anger to those in ones family of believers, not an
enemy, or unbeliever.
We have no reason to be angry with a fellow believer, but what about a blasphemer,
or apostate?
On the subject of anger, the verse you quote maybe wrong.
The problem with the phrase "without cause" is not in all the copies of the gospel,
and seems a cop out. One could dream up lots of causes in ones own mind.
Now murder is a single act, angry is an emotional feeling that goes on.
Paul puts it like this
"In your anger do not sin": Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,
and do not give the devil a foothold.
Ephesians 4:26-27
Paul seems to be saying anger will happen, but resolve it, or it becomes equivalent
to murder.
Now this thread is on salvation and not anger, being saved by faith and not works or
being a good person.
Matt 5:22
Anger is for war, aggression, violence.
Annoyance is about irritation and identifying a problem.
The phrase "his brother", restricts murder with anger to those in ones family of believers, not an
enemy, or unbeliever.
We have no reason to be angry with a fellow believer, but what about a blasphemer,
or apostate?
On the subject of anger, the verse you quote maybe wrong.
The problem with the phrase "without cause" is not in all the copies of the gospel,
and seems a cop out. One could dream up lots of causes in ones own mind.
Now murder is a single act, angry is an emotional feeling that goes on.
Paul puts it like this
"In your anger do not sin": Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,
and do not give the devil a foothold.
Ephesians 4:26-27
Paul seems to be saying anger will happen, but resolve it, or it becomes equivalent
to murder.
Now this thread is on salvation and not anger, being saved by faith and not works or
being a good person.