Why "Empathy" Is Not In The Bible

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Shamah

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Proverbs 21:13, "Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered. "
 
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None of those verses you quoted have the word empathy for a translation.
 

Shamah

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None of those verses you quoted have the word empathy for a translation.
translation is human opinion, the Most High did not have the prophets and disciples write in english.
 
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translation is human opinion, the Most High did not have the prophets and disciples write in english.
But today we have modern English translations of which NONE use the word empathy.
 

Shamah

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But today we have modern English translations of which NONE use the word empathy.
I use english, Hebrew and Greek, and the principles of empathy are in YHWH's Instructions and Yahshua's actions. Not the telepahic kind you speak of, but the seeing someone in distress and having understanding that they are in despair is.

Here are 3 more definitions from different dictionaries:

empathy
"the ability to identify with another's feelings."

empathy
Empathy is the ability to share another person's feelings and emotions as if they were your own.

empathy
[em-puh-thee]
1.
the psychological identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.
2.
the imaginative ascribing to an object, as a natural object or work of art, feelings or attitudes present in oneself:
By means of empathy, a great painting becomes a mirror of the self.

this baisc principle is in the word
 

mcubed

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You can find the words "sympathy" and "compassion" in the Bible but not "empathy". Why? Because you can have feelings FOR another person but you can't have the feelings OF another person. Empathy is a made up concept pushed by the American Psychological Assoc. (A political activist group) that you lack empathy if you aren't for a centralized socialist government take over. You are lower on the evolution scale if you reject global warming, gay marriage, no religion, gun confiscation, Marxism, etc.

I GOT YOU!!! THEN I AM AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CESSPOOL!!! I DO REJECT, GLOBAL WARMING, GAY MARRIAGE, NO RELIGION, GUN CONFISCATION, and MARXISM. Global warming is a farce, the world will end when G-d decides. Gay marriage IS SIN!!!!! We have and should keep having the RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!!!! Doesn't every American want to stand in a cheese line and wear gray? If not... be for Capitalism!!!!
 

Shamah

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empathy
"the ability to identify with another's feelings."
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it." [/FONT]
 
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it." [/FONT]
The Golden rule does not fall under the definition of empathy nor is the word "empathy" found in its context.
 

Shamah

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The Golden rule does not fall under the definition of empathy nor is the word "empathy" found in its context.
OK, so no empathetic traits there, not talking about this telepathic versin you say but rather "Empathy is the ability to share another person's feelings and emotions as if they were your own. "

according to you, none here either?

Hebrews 13:3, "Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. "

John 11:33, "יהושע, therefore, when He saw her weeping, and the Yehuḏim who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled,"

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OK, so no empathetic traits there, not talking about this telepathic versin you say but rather "Empathy is the ability to share another person's feelings and emotions as if they were your own. "

according to you, none here either?

Hebrews 13:3, "Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. "

John 11:33, "יהושע, therefore, when He saw her weeping, and the Yehuḏim who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled,"

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The Golden rule has nothing to do with claiming to experience other people's thoughts and feelings. It is about instead, treating others the way you want to be treated.
 

Shamah

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The Golden rule has nothing to do with claiming to experience other people's thoughts and feelings. It is about instead, treating others the way you want to be treated.
OK keep saying "goldern rule" and ignoring what is written

Hebrews 13:3, "Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. "

"Empathy is the ability to share another person's feelings and emotions as if they were your own. "
 
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OK keep saying "goldern rule" and ignoring what is written

Hebrews 13:3, "Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them, and those who are mistreated, since you also are in the body. "

"Empathy is the ability to share another person's feelings and emotions as if they were your own. "
You keep ignoring what empathy claims to be able to do. I just had a huge bowl of chili with beans for dinner. Can you experience the feelings of my gas in my intestines right now?
 

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When a baby in a nursery starts crying and next thing you know all the babies are crying - I don't think they're sympathizing, I think they're empathizing. Sympathizing requires some rational thought, does it not?
 
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When a baby in a nursery starts crying and next thing you know all the babies are crying - I don't think they're sympathizing, I think they're empathizing. Sympathizing requires some rational thought, does it not?
Then you need to run for a toilet because this chili is hitting me hard!
 

MarcR

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Gal 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
KJV


This is not the word empathy but it is certainly the concept

Rom 12:15
15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
KJV

as is this!
 
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Gal 6:2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
KJV


This is not the word empathy but it is certainly the concept

Rom 12:15
15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
KJV

as is this!
No, it isn't. That is compassion and sympathy. Empathy is if you had a toilet run because of the chili I ate.
 
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You can find the words "sympathy" and "compassion" in the Bible but not "empathy". Why? Because you can have feelings FOR another person but you can't have the feelings OF another person. Empathy is a made up concept pushed by the American Psychological Assoc. (A political activist group) that you lack empathy if you aren't for a centralized socialist government take over. You are lower on the evolution scale if you reject global warming, gay marriage, no religion, gun confiscation, Marxism, etc.
Thank you so much for your post. I hope you can help me with some things.
I have four questions.

1. How do you receive correction from God?
2. What do you think is more important; what you believe or faith?
3. Do you think the first way we should all be practicing humility is being willing to be wrong?
4. What is the practical application of this idea you have and seem to think is so important. How does this change how i should practice loving others? What does this look like in practical application of the word. What does it change? I guess this question can be summed in, what is the point?

Really enjoying the post and, your responses. I could tell you a dozen things i love about what you are doing here and your responses. Very good stuff. I hope you can take the time to answer my questions.

Your servant in Christ
Joseph
 
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Thank you so much for your post. I hope you can help me with some things.
I have four questions.

1. How do you receive correction from God?
2. What do you think is more important; what you believe or faith?
3. Do you think the first way we should all be practicing humility is being willing to be wrong?
4. What is the practical application of this idea you have and seem to think is so important. How does this change how i should practice loving others? What does this look like in practical application of the word. What does it change? I guess this question can be summed in, what is the point?

Really enjoying the post and, your responses. I could tell you a dozen things i love about what you are doing here and your responses. Very good stuff. I hope you can take the time to answer my questions.

Your servant in Christ
Joseph
That is a lot of questions. I'll answer to what is the point? I get a lot of atheist memes across my FB page and a common one is with all kinds of the worlds religious symbols with the message the world no longer needs religion since now we gave developed empathy.
 
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That is a lot of questions. I'll answer to what is the point? I get a lot of atheist memes across my FB page and a common one is with all kinds of the worlds religious symbols with the message the world no longer needs religion since now we gave developed empathy.

Ok. I can understand that but i dont know why you would listen to any of that or any of it would matter to you at all. I have no use at all for paying attention to what the lost say, unless it is about a need they have so i may serve them. Otherwise, they dont have the truth it doesnt make any sense to care about what they believe it simply doesnt matter.

Why not answer the rest of my questions. I can answer them from my own perspective if you like but, I have very good reason for asking all of them.

It doesnt matter what i believe, that being said, i believe you are mistaken. Empathy is not what you think it is. Empathy is not sharing feelings or feeling what another feels. It is more like, we both see a movie. We have both experienced the movie. You experienced it differently than i did because we are unique individuals. However, the experience is shared even though there are many details that we may see differently, empathy is about what is common. When my parents died, all of my siblings and I were grieving the loss of the same people. Each persons grief is different even though we were grieving the same people. Empathy is about the commonality, the shared feelings, the similarity of the experience. When my friends lose their parents, I grieve with them. That is empathy. I have the experience of suffering a similar loss. It is not their experience it is mine. but it is similar so i can relate. It is a choice of carrying another persons burdens with them and it is very closely related to sympathy and compassion.

that being said, It really doesnt matter what i believe it is nor what you believe it is. It is one word. It happens to be that every poster here disagrees with you and I agree with them. This is why i asked you about the way you receive correction from god. If you look at posts i have posted, even ones from today while i was posting things God was correcting me. I receive his correction all the time in countless ways. ONE of those ways is through other members of the body of Christ.

I see alot of good things from you. I believe i said that. Good godly things. It seems to me that your spiritual maturity is somewhere between newborn and enlightened. Sort of a teenager in christ spiritually speaking. However, for all i know you are a newborn. You may have been saved ten years ago and not have grown at all. I see this all the time. This is why i asked you the questions. I tell you the truth, the closer you are to God the more corrections you will receive until you are like me havin God correct you moment to moment throughout every single day of your life. Where i am is a beautiful place to be. I dont know if u can get here without listening to God correcting you which is why i asked. The questions were for your sake not for me. MY cup is overflowing. I live in abundance in riches from God that I receive faster than i can give away and i know more is coming. I believe you are saved. I believe you love God, but it seems to me that you do so weakly, and perhaps you arent practicing humility or even understand what that means. My life wont change if you dont answer, or speak to the questions and just say simply i have no idea what u mean could you explain for me. I am willing to serve you as i consider that my job and i love to do it. As it is written, serve one another in love. But you will have to ask something of me in order for me to give you anything.

Your servant in Christ,
Joseph